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    Your PIP score does not include your contributions.

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    29.56%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intrepid_Timer View Post
    Your PIP score does not include your contributions.
    Then I'm totally confused because my PIP jumped 10% from last month and I did not get a 10% return...not even close. Any ideas?

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    you probably dropped a down month sept 2011.. My PIP did not include my contribution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talan150 View Post
    you probably dropped a down month sept 2011.. My PIP did not include my contribution
    AHA! That makes sense...thanks!

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    Your Personal Investment Performance (PIP) for the past 12 months ending 09/30/2012 is 29.21%.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PLANO View Post
    Then I'm totally confused because my PIP jumped 10% from last month and I did not get a 10% return...not even close. Any ideas?
    Remember it is twelve month return. So probably, alot of people will see a jump because September was so bad last year. Remove the offending value from the calculation, C FUND Sep 2011 - (7.03%), S FUND Sep 2011-(10.73%), I FUND Sep 2011-(10.55%).

    Everyone who was in last year will see a serious jump.
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    It's pretty easy to see that contributions aren't included in your PIP. Take a look at your 2011 statement. Here is a friends as I no longer make contributions:

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    If you subtract the closing balance from the opening balance and then divide by the opening balance, you get a gain of 34.76%. This would include earnings, contributions and loan repayments.

    If you divide "investment gain" by the beginning balance, you get 17.79%. This isn't exactly what his PIP is, but the way I did it is simple math and doesn't account for one's balance increasing or decreasing on a daily or monthly basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frixxxx View Post
    Remember it is twelve month return. So probably, alot of people will see a jump because September was so bad last year. Remove the offending value from the calculation, C FUND Sep 2011 - (7.03%), S FUND Sep 2011-(10.73%), I FUND Sep 2011-(10.55%).

    Everyone who was in last year will see a seious jump.
    And probably a big decline at the end of the month as the S fund gained over 14% last Oct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intrepid_Timer View Post
    And probably a big decline at the end of the month as the S fund gained over 14% last Oct.
    Depends on their position. Based on my account, I should see a 12.5% increase for next month if I see a modest 2.75% gain in October 2012.
    THIS IS WHERE I WOULD PUT SOMETHING TO REPRESENT MY THINKING, BUT THEN THEY SHOW UP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aitrus View Post
    Your Personal Investment Performance (PIP) for the past 12 months ending 08/31/2012 is 10.12%.

    This is what I showed last month, but this month it's "Your Personal Investment Performance (PIP) for the past 12 months ending 09/30/2012 is 14.54%.". While that's great and all, I know that this month I took a decent hit. What gives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frixxxx View Post
    Depends on their position. Based on my account, I should see a 12.5% increase for next month if I see a modest 2.75% gain in October 2012.
    I'm not sure how that would work unless you lost 10% last Oct? Our current PIPs run from Oct 1st, 2011 to Sept 30th, 2012.

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