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    Quote Originally Posted by alevin View Post
    TY, UQ. I've tried and tried to figure out what triggers the misbehavior. It does it in the rain, in the cold, in above-freezing dry days, at 15mph, 45 mph and at 60-70 mph, pulling up to stop signs, making left turns slowing, you name it. all intermittently, regardless of conditions, directions or speed. I'd like to go to big autorama 70 miles from here to go shopping for that newer vehicle, but not feeling good about the shopping expedition until current vehicle is fixed. going to try for diagnosis again week after next, I'm supposed to go on a work trip a couple days next week, agency vehicle for that trip, not mine.

    One of the shop people thinking out loud suggested it might be an ozone sensor or something like that. Said they could test and rule out some things even if its not misbehaving the day I bring it in. hmm, sounds like an extra day in the shop to me and still no pinpointed solution more than likely unless they can rule out everything but one last possibility. they do advertise they'll do a free tow if I break down, what a deal, I'm sure they make it up in charges on the back end called repairs once it fully breaks down to that point. I may still try to get things ruled out at least. failing that, I'll go vehicle shopping locally-I still need to finish figuring out what makes and models could meet my everyday-vehicle criteria and savings account balance. 20- ('scuse me, 21-) yo pickup stays with me for the duration.
    Yeah, tough one. My two cents follows.

    You didn't say "vibration." That's another possibility.

    Sounds like a bad connection (obviously); wiring or solder joint. Sensors and the computer are included in those, but I'd hope that if it were a sensor, it'd throw up a code.

    I'd probably try to recreate the problem first by (1) jiggling any wiring harness you can easily access under the hood and dash, or (2) causing vibrations near the ones you don't (by banging nearby with your hand or something else).

    If it works, it could cause the problem to appear intermittently, or hopefully "permanently." Either way, you'll then have a clue.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by userque View Post
    Yeah, tough one. My two cents follows.

    You didn't say "vibration." That's another possibility.

    Sounds like a bad connection (obviously); wiring or solder joint. Sensors and the computer are included in those, but I'd hope that if it were a sensor, it'd throw up a code.

    I'd probably try to recreate the problem first by (1) jiggling any wiring harness you can easily access under the hood and dash, or (2) causing vibrations near the ones you don't (by banging nearby with your hand or something else).

    If it works, it could cause the problem to appear intermittently, or hopefully "permanently." Either way, you'll then have a clue.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by burrocrat View Post
    you're good cuz, good. the last time i said those things to a gal i got slapped.
    LOL. Thought I was talking to a manly grease monkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burrocrat View Post
    you're good cuz, good. the last time i said those things to a gal i got slapped.
    And rightfully so, b. Bet that gal's hand smarted awhile too, whoever she was. Never pictured you being a slow learner tho, so it surely wouldn't ever happen again.

    And UQ, funny you should mention the electrical. I bought the vehicle with a spliced wire already present, never gave problems for several years, never gave it any thought. When it started acting up driving around town, I spent (wasted) many days dealing with a shop down the road from me, with the mechanics trying to diagnose, relying solely on codes-no diagnosis, over and over and over again. One of the mechanics even mentioned the spliced wire to me, I said I knew about it, he never tested it for possibility.

    In despair, I asked around and got a line on another guy, 1-man shop, cash-only business. In half hour day1, he found and replaced the spliced wire, took it for test drive and the fuel pump went out on the test drive minutes after he fixed the wire. So yes, there may be a wire loose somewhere, but it could also be the fuel pump. or both, or something else still. I'm thinking of making an appt with the 1-man shop week after next, if it's a loose wire, he'll find it for sure. He's good, just kind of out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alevin View Post
    And rightfully so, b. Bet that gal's hand smarted awhile too, whoever she was. Never pictured you being a slow learner tho, so it surely wouldn't ever happen again.

    And UQ, funny you should mention the electrical. I bought the vehicle with a spliced wire already present, never gave problems for several years, never gave it any thought. When it started acting up driving around town, I spent (wasted) many days dealing with a shop down the road from me, with the mechanics trying to diagnose, relying solely on codes-no diagnosis, over and over and over again. One of the mechanics even mentioned the spliced wire to me, I said I knew about it, he never tested it for possibility.

    In despair, I asked around and got a line on another guy, 1-man shop, cash-only business. In half hour day1, he found and replaced the spliced wire, took it for test drive and the fuel pump went out on the test drive minutes after he fixed the wire. So yes, there may be a wire loose somewhere, but it could also be the fuel pump. or both, or something else still. I'm thinking of making an appt with the 1-man shop week after next, if it's a loose wire, he'll find it for sure. He's good, just kind of out of the way.
    Good, keep us posted!

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    In addition to vibration, thermal cycles can also cause bad connections to open/close. Many fuel pumps are cooled by the gasoline in the tank. They can run hotter when low on fuel. This can cause intermittent failures if the pump is on the way out, especially when braking, accelerating, or cornering (all cause the low fuel volume to swish away from the pump, increasing it's temperature...depending upon vehicle design, of course)
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    Oooh, you are good, cuz. If that was the only time it was happening, I'd be dancing at the diagnosis, no such luck, it bopped a little coming through town from grocery store today with half-tank of gas on the gauge. just a couple tiny tugs though. small hesitations while in motion, driving straight down the street. kinda like a fish testing the bait on the end of the line. but I still kinda think its the fuel pump, will watch to see if happens more when low on gas. not sure at the moment.
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    omg you got to be kidding me!!?? and here i just swore a resolution to not talk about them!!!
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    Poor Clementine.

    Ok, burro, how about you resolve to never give up on not talking about them. or find a substitute, kinda like you did with smoking. You managed that, you can manage this too. never give up trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alevin View Post
    Oooh, you are good, cuz. If that was the only time it was happening, I'd be dancing at the diagnosis, no such luck, it bopped a little coming through town from grocery store today with half-tank of gas on the gauge. just a couple tiny tugs though. small hesitations while in motion, driving straight down the street. kinda like a fish testing the bait on the end of the line. but I still kinda think its the fuel pump, will watch to see if happens more when low on gas. not sure at the moment.
    Yeah...I'd bet fuel pump as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alevin View Post
    Oooh, you are good, cuz. If that was the only time it was happening, I'd be dancing at the diagnosis, no such luck, it bopped a little coming through town from grocery store today with half-tank of gas on the gauge. just a couple tiny tugs though. small hesitations while in motion, driving straight down the street. kinda like a fish testing the bait on the end of the line. but I still kinda think its the fuel pump, will watch to see if happens more when low on gas. not sure at the moment.
    Suggest lowest cost/easiest first. Replace fuel pump relay under hood in electrical box first. Then try Fuel pressure regulator. Best wishes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamboatAnnie View Post
    Suggest lowest cost/easiest first. Replace fuel pump relay under hood in electrical box first. Then try Fuel pressure regulator. Best wishes!
    Yay Annie! ty. I will ask him to do that when I get it in the shop. UQ, hope you notice I'm not the only non-manly type who thinks and talks vehicles around here . There are other non-manly types in my circle of acquaintances who talk vehicle-language as well, one of them is even a local stock-car racer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alevin View Post
    Yay Annie! ty. I will ask him to do that when I get it in the shop. UQ, hope you notice I'm not the only non-manly type who thinks and talks vehicles around here . There are other non-manly types in my circle of acquaintances who talk vehicle-language as well, one of them is even a local stock-car racer.
    Sweet...I like to hear that! Now I know where to turn when I need some automotive/speed-modifications advice

    Also, while I'm here

    After we last spoke, I remembered an incident where a relative's car stopped. He called another relative who was a mechanic. Based on their conversation, the mechanic suggested he tap on the fuel tank with a hammer. Car started. (Fuel pump problem.)

    Just something quick to try if you get stranded somewhere and don't mind a little dirt.
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