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    General Motors submitted their next update to Congress, and although the plan for viability included information about HUMMER, much of it was already known. Even though GM’s actions around HUMMER have been clear for some time, Wednesday was the first time that keeping the HUMMER brand wasn’t even discussed as an option for The General.

    “We will make a final decision to sell or phase out HUMMER by March 31st of this year,” said Rick Wagoner, who called a press conference Wednesday evening to discuss the highlights of the viability plan. The report noted that a final resolution for HUMMER is expected no later than 2010.

    During a Q&A session, a reporter from the Detroit Free Press asked how long it would take for operations to cease if a buyer for HUMMER wasn’t found by March 31st . GM President Fritz Henderson responded by saying “we’ve been managing (HUMMER) inventories,” and that a wind-down of the HUMMER brand “would happen rather quickly.”

    HUMMER was also mentioned in the dealership reduction area of the report. In total, GM is planning to drop over 2000 dealers by 2014, including the roughly 200 HUMMER dealers in the U.S.. GM also suggested that market share for their core brands (Chevy, Cadillac, and Buick) would increase due to reduced competition from HUMMER, Saab, Saturn, and Pontiac.

    The overall report is rather mum when it comes to specifics on HUMMER’s future, though we won’t have to wait long. The definitive announcement on HUMMER is just over a month away.

    courtesy www.hummerguy.net 02-17-09



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    Sigh, sadly the Hummer venture was ill-starred at the beginning, whatever possesed GM to simply introduce the first version of the vehicle with non-military components when it's really slloooowwww, heavy, and a big giant gas-guzzler? That's great for a piece of equipment to go on any terrain, but not to drive every day. The Hummer is NOT a jeep. Then it was the mini version, which was too low to the ground to go climb a mountain (which is the major strength of the Hummer - goes everywhere). Third try looked like they possibly got it right - but by now they've thrown way too much money at production and owners of the "older" versions were quite unhappy.

    Hello, R&D and marketing, this was a good idea than could have worked, but you fell asleep at the wheel.

    I'm sad it looks like they are taking Saturn out. There were some good ideas in that line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbird View Post
    Sigh, sadly the Hummer venture was ill-starred at the beginning, whatever possesed GM to simply introduce the first version of the vehicle with non-military components when it's really slloooowwww, heavy, and a big giant gas-guzzler? That's great for a piece of equipment to go on any terrain, but not to drive every day. The Hummer is NOT a jeep. Then it was the mini version, which was too low to the ground to go climb a mountain (which is the major strength of the Hummer - goes everywhere). Third try looked like they possibly got it right - but by now they've thrown way too much money at production and owners of the "older" versions were quite unhappy.

    Hello, R&D and marketing, this was a good idea than could have worked, but you fell asleep at the wheel.

    I'm sad it looks like they are taking Saturn out. There were some good ideas in that line.
    You can blame AAAnold SwarzenShriver-Kennedy, AKA: Da Governator, for making GM think selling a military vehicle to the public was a good idea.
    God bless the United States of America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbird View Post
    Sigh, sadly the Hummer venture was ill-starred at the beginning, whatever possesed GM to simply introduce the first version of the vehicle with non-military components when it's really slloooowwww, heavy, and a big giant gas-guzzler? That's great for a piece of equipment to go on any terrain, but not to drive every day. The Hummer is NOT a jeep. Then it was the mini version, which was too low to the ground to go climb a mountain (which is the major strength of the Hummer - goes everywhere). Third try looked like they possibly got it right - but by now they've thrown way too much money at production and owners of the "older" versions were quite unhappy.

    Hello, R&D and marketing, this was a good idea than could have worked, but you fell asleep at the wheel.

    I'm sad it looks like they are taking Saturn out. There were some good ideas in that line.
    Yeah I was suprised with Saturn also.

    CB
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    I'm not going to try and defend the HUMMER line to people that just don't have a clue about the vehicle or it's capabilities, only to just regurgitate the same vomit and venom like they are in the know ..You have formed your ill informed opinions and that is fine (ignorance should be painful)...But before you rag on HUMMER, at least the H2 and H3 models..realize you are dogging a Chevy Tahoe with an outer skin of an H2 and the Chevy Trailblazer with an outer skin of an H3..Gas guzzler? LMAO!!! this is usually the ignorant arguement people use against HUMMERs..Lets' compare a lesser varity of 4X4s and pickups and SUVs that get TERRIBLE mileage, yet people seem to ignore these facts..Caddilac Escalades, Lincolns Navigators, Toyotas Land Cruiser, Lexus SUVs, Infinity SUV, Chevy Suburbans, and a dozen more Pickups and 4X4s..All of which get worse mileage than any H2 or H3..My H3 gets 21 MPG average...And It, with me, provided a service to my communtiy when the roads were impassable due to Ice and Snow, yet me and my HUMMER were able to get out in it and deliver old folks to hospitals and deliver food to elderly and sick that normal gas pinchers couldn't do for days..As do may Hummer owners do.
    http://blogs.fourwheeler.com/6473028...cue/index.html

    And BTW to further educate the tree huggers that think they know all there is to know about the HUMMER..The H1 Humvee everyone calls a HUMMER, was discontinued form production back in June of 07, to fulfill the Military needs..And it was a diesel.
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    Yes, it was unfortunate. The first version was so slow and gas eating that its reputation got to all the other versions - that's why I kick the Marketing department as well as R&D. Old tales of less than 10 MPG, overweight, and terrible accelerations went on to all other models, so debunkers of the H2 would make it a mini-Humm that eats gas, moves like a snail, and has a low undercarrige, even though only the undercarrige and the size were true.

    The Gas Guzzler that moved too slow: Original Hummer on commercial market. Unfortunately called "Hummer"

    Hummer II: Too close to the ground to have the complete package of Hummer fun with

    Hummer III: Finally got it right, but you spent lots of money and lost customers with Hummer I and II...

    I liked the H3, but I never buy anything that doesn't have a couple years on the model, and I don't need an all terrain vehicle, and it's just me and the sig other in the car. The only road hazards we have are bad drivers and K Street (sorry had to make a DC joke).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbird View Post

    Hummer III: Finally got it right, but you spent lots of money and lost customers with Hummer I and II...

    I liked the H3, but I never buy anything that doesn't have a couple years on the model,
    So you are in luck..The H3 has been out since 06 and the latest models are really sweet with creature comforts and special standard features...If you you do nothing else, you will be happy if you just go test drive one for grins and giggles..you may find yourself pleasantly surprised..the prices have dropped to ridiculous low amounts on these right now..and reliability is phenomenal
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    Hummer = evil golbal warmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawiron1 View Post
    Hummer = evil golbal warmer

    Jason
    Not only are you ignorant, you can't spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    Not only are you ignorant, you can't spell.
    Thanks Buster - that made me burst out laughing

    Ahh man that's good. It's few people that just say whatever and never think twice about it.

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    DETROIT (AP) — General Motors Corp.'s auditors have raised "substantial doubt" about the troubled automaker's ability to continue operations.

    The company revealed the concerns, raised by the accounting firm Deloitte & Touche LLP, in its annual report filed on Thursday.

    GM has received $13.4 billion in federal loans as it tries to survive the worst auto sales climate in 27 years. It is seeking a total of $30 billion from the government. During the past three years it has piled up $82 billion in losses, including $30.9 billion in 2008.

    GM says in its report that its auditors cited recurring losses from operations, stockholders' deficit and an inability to generate enough cash to meet its obligations in raising substantial doubts about its ability to continue as a going concern.

    The company said in its filing that its future depends on successfully executing the viability plan submitted to the government in February to justify the loans.

    "If we fail to do so for any reason, we would not be able to continue as a going concern and could potentially be forced to seek relief through a filing under the U.S. Bankruptcy Code," GM said in the annual report, filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

    GM, the report said, is highly dependent on auto sales volume, which dropped rapidly last year.

    "There is no assurance that the global automobile market will recover or that it will not suffer a significant further downturn," the company wrote.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090305/..._annual_report

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    Thanks Buster - that made me burst out laughing

    Ahh man that's good. It's few people that just say whatever and never think twice about it.
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    On Tuesday’s radio program, Rush Limbaugh commented on a couple of recent stories out of the New York Times from that feature HUMMERs. One is about the sudden HUMMER demand in Iraq, and the other a feature on Lynch HUMMER out of Missouri. Following his recap of the articles, he went on to say that HUMMERs are “being tarred, feathered, and destroyed by the Obama administration and the American left.” Full text after the video and the jump. Take a listen or look, then tell us what you think in the comments section.

    I posted conversation otherwise you can go to www.hummerguy.net and click on the box to listen.


    LIMBAUGH: ” ‘Iraqis love Hummers because they’re a symbol of power,’ said Mr. Hilli, a chubby 37-year-old who couldn’t stop laughing. Hummers in Baghdad are symbols of much more besides: increasing security, returning normalcy and a yearning for the trappings of sovereignty.” That’s what a Hummer represents to Iraqis. It helped that we didn’t have such a bad opinion of the Americans in one of the provinces, said Ali al-Hilli. ” ‘People often asked the soldiers to stop their Humvees so they could get their pictures taken in front of them. Soon conditions improved enough to drive all over the city. Hummer H3s began rumbling off the lot, at 50 to 60 thousand dollars apiece, in dollars, and all the money down, fully loaded. (No one wanted them any other way.)” No Iraqis wanted a bargain-basement Hummer; they wanted them fully loaded. “Iraqis are paying historically high prices for gasoline. At $1.40 a gallon, that wouldn’t break any Americans hearts, but not long ago in Iraq it was 19 cents a gallon.” It’s now a buck forty. The increase had no effect on sales of Hummers. ‘If you can afford this car, you don’t care how much gasoline costs,’ said Mr. Hilli. Iraqis love their cars. In Iraq, people judge you by your car, and you’re not a man without one,’ ” he said. … When it comes to Hummers, they’ll always nearly be bigger than anyone else’s car.”

    Now, I have another story out here of St. Louis. Chesterfield, Missouri, near St. Louis, and it is — well, it’s The New York Times as well, I think: “A dealer’s big bet is on the line as Hummer falls from favor.” Now remember, you just heard about the Hummer. Iraqis love it, and they’re buying them as fast as they can, at full price and fully loaded. In a nation that is just emerging from the seventh century, thanks to us, and the people over there are buying Hummers and they’re excited. And here in the world’s greatest superpower, the greatest outpost for freedom ever in the world, the same automobile is being tarred, feathered, and destroyed by the Obama administration and the American left. “

    Source: Mediamatters.org
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