Thread: SAD times for HUMMER

Originally Posted by Buster

Oh Sure!, This is fair..

You're right, BUT it has nothing to do with Progressive, or not. It's just foolish - electricity may be cheaper than gas, but you should still have to pay to "gas" up with electricity. The city is providing enough of a service by making it available (now *that's* Progressive!). This is not a serious proposal, electricity generation will always cost money (even if you use methane from a landfill). Ok, smarty, the whole town now has hybrids, whatcha gonna do? Never gonna happen? Are you sure? What if gas goes to $4 again? If Cedar Rapids had a serious proposal, they'd be ready for that possibility.

Originally Posted by Buster

My newest BFF...

Nice Truck!! Attachment 7912

GM says hasta la vista to Hummer

Today marks the end of US production for the iconic and controversial SUV made popular by Arnold Schwarzenegger and other lovers of assault-vehicle capability.




http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...ew=true#uc2Lst

If you need it or can afford it then more power to ya!

But I will keep my 40mpg 2006 Scion xA.

Jason

Originally Posted by rawiron1

If you need it or can afford it then more power to ya!

But I will keep my 40mpg 2006 Scion xA.

Jason

Back atcha partner...nuttin wrong with ulta-eco cars either...Cept, my big two wouldn't fit in one of those..

[Arrrgh!!!]
Hummer to close after collapse of Chinese deal
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/24/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2

Originally Posted by Silverbird

[Arrrgh!!!]
Hummer to close after collapse of Chinese deal
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/24/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2

...You beat me to it..Just found this, this morning..

2009 Hummer H2NEW YORK – Hummer, the off-road vehicle that once symbolized America's love for hulking SUVs, has hit a dead end after its sale to a Chinese heavy equipment maker collapsed late Wednesday.

Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machines Co. pulled out of the deal to buy the company from General Motors Co. Tengzhong failed to get clearance from Chinese regulators within the proposed timeframe for the sale, the Chinese manufacturer said Wednesday.

GM said it will continue to honor existing Hummer warranties.

"We are disappointed that the deal with Tengzhong could not be completed," said John Smith, GM vice president of corporate planning and alliances. "GM will now work closely with Hummer employees, dealers and suppliers to wind down the business in an orderly and responsible manner."

GM has been trying to sell the loss-making brand for the last year and signed a deal with Tengzhong in October. However, resistance from Chinese regulators, who have been putting the brakes on investment in the fast-growing Chinese auto industry, created difficulties from the start.

As recently as Tuesday, private investors were trying to set up an offshore entity in a last-minute effort to complete the acquisition ahead of a Feb. 28 deadline. That plan, along with other options, was unsuccessful, according to a person close to the situation. The person declined to be identified in order to speak more freely.

"There's no way forward with that," this person said. "We're out of time."

GM spokesman Nick Richards said the automaker would still hear last-minute bids for the brand.

"In the early phases of the wind-down, we'll entertain offers and determine their viability, but that will have to happen in pretty short order," he said.

Hummer, which traces its origins to the Humvee military vehicle built by AM General LLC in South Bend, Ind., acquired a devoted following among SUV lovers who were drawn to the off-road ready vehicles. But they drew scorn from environmentalists and sales never recovered after gasoline prices spiked above $4 a gallon in the summer of 2008.

Sales peaked at 71,524 in 2006. But in December 2009, only 325 Hummers were sold, down 85 percent from the previous year, according to Autodata Corp.

Sticker prices start at more than $42,500 and run to about $63,000, according to data posted at the Hummer.com Web site. The H3, the most fuel-efficient vehicle in Hummer's lineup, averages about 16 mpg. The vehicles are built at GM's factory in Shreveport, La.

Under the initial agreement to sell Hummer, Tengzhong would have received an 80 percent stake, while Hong Kong investor Suolang Duoji, who indirectly owns a big stake in Tengzhong, would have gotten 20 percent. The investors would also have owned Hummer's nationwide dealer network.

Financial terms of the sale were not disclosed, although a person briefed on the deal at the time said the sale price was around $150 million. GM's bankruptcy filing last summer said that the brand could bring in $500 million or more.

Beijing had been cool to the acquisition. Tengzhong lacks a government permit to manufacture cars, and Beijing has been seeking to streamline and slow investment in the fast-growing auto industry rather than to attract newcomers.

Richards, the GM spokesman, said the collapse of the sale does not change earlier plans to close the Shreveport facility by 2012. The plant also builds the Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon and is currently operating on a single 10-hour shift, he said. Hummer production was idled in January.

Hummer is the second brand after Saturn that GM has failed to sell as part of its restructuring. GM sold Swedish brand Saab to Dutch carmaker Spyker Cars NV earlier this year. Pontiac is being discontinued.

GM is focusing its efforts on its four remaining brands: Chevrolet, GMC, Cadillac and Buick.


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But Me and my little baby will ride on into the sunset happily ever after...

Originally Posted by Buster

But Me and my little baby will ride on into the sunset happily ever after...

don't take that sunset ride just yet buster, there's more snow on the way, unfortunate folks stuck in the ditch still need your capabilities and help.

Originally Posted by James48843

A little harsh there Buster, don't cha think?
Well the good news is the renewable fuel E85 H3 Hummer is not far off- and, by your story- a biodiesel isn't far away. If they just can find a diesel engine to power Hummer that meets U.S. emission standards- they might be able to do a biodiesel hummer shortly.

I run biodiesel in my tractor- and E85 in my car. Both support American farmers-- and buying American is a good thing.

thanks for increasing the ozone levels
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1214101408.htm

They found that at warm temperatures, from freezing up to 41 degrees Celsius (give F conversion), in bright sunlight, E85 raised the concentration of ozone in the air by up to 7 parts per billion more than produced by gasoline. At cold temperatures, from freezing down to minus 37 degrees Celsius, they found E85 raised ozone concentrations by up to 39 parts per billion more than gasoline.

and oil is not re-newable?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38645
or just do a google search

gasoline is a much, much more efficient fuel due to its higher btu content compared to any alcohol fuel. The epa and their catalytic converters make every vehicle waste approx 10+ mpg on the hwy.

suggested read
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/greening.shtml

Ozone for the Record (O3)


Two Types of Ozone in the atmosphere: Don't confuse them.




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Stratospheric—

Protects all the life on Earth from the sun’s harmful ultraviolet radiation.

Extends from an altitude 6 to 25 miles above the earth’s surface. Consists of 90 per cent of the atmospheric ozone and is sometimes referred to as the ozone shield.

Ozone is created in the stratosphere when ultraviolet radiation from the sun strikes an oxygen molecule, causing it to split into two oxygen atoms. The oxygen atom then combines with another molecule of O2 to create ozone O3. The ozone molecule is very volatile, and when it is hit by ultraviolet light, it splits again into a molecule of O2 and an oxygen atom. This ongoing process is called the ozone-oxygen cycle.
Stratospheric ozone acts as a protective shield.

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Tropospheric--

This is a harmful pollutant.

Extends from the Earth’s surface up to about 6 miles

Contains about 10 per cent of the total ozone. This region contains 90 per cent of the atmosphere, and it is mixed well by weather patterns.

Sunlight acting on smog and air pollution in the troposphere on hot summer days causes ground-based ozone. This type of ozone is an irritant to the mucous membranes in the nose and lungs. This is what you can expect from burning E85 or any ethanoil fuels..