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    Quote Originally Posted by kam View Post
    No different than the oil companies getting unneeded tax subsidies or the Hedge Manager taking his salary as long term capital gains rather than ordinary income, most everyone looks for loopholes in the law, or simply works under the law, to increase their own bottom line. Whether it's the guy collecting food stamps (legally) or the two examples above, they deplete the US Treasury, one way or another. Just presenting another way to look at this "moral conscience" argment rather than always going for the jugular of the Welfare Queen.
    You are not getting my point. I am not making a political argument. I am not arguing whether the government is right or wrong. Nor whether everyone or just some should get a tax break. On a personal level, I think what this guy is doing is immoral even if it's legal. It's like letting your kids go hungry so that you can eat. Even though you had a cheeseburger earlier. Understand? Don't change my argument into something that is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kam View Post
    No different than the oil companies getting unneeded tax subsidies or the Hedge Manager taking his salary as long term capital gains rather than ordinary income, most everyone looks for loopholes in the law, or simply works under the law, to increase their own bottom line. Whether it's the guy collecting food stamps (legally) or the two examples above, they deplete the US Treasury, one way or another. Just presenting another way to look at this "moral conscience" argment rather than always going for the jugular of the Welfare Queen.
    Thank you. If you put me on an uninhabited island with nothing but a machete and tell me to survive, I could do it...However, if I look over, and see some guy set up in a tiki bar telling me he is offering as much free water and food that i can handle you think I'm gonna lift a finger? Hell no! If then for some reason THAT guy gets sick and dies THEN I'll get up and do something.

    In 40 or 60 years minorities will own the usa. It won't look like the usa we know today, but the statistics are clear, whites have basically stopped having kids. Guess that's where higher education gets you. Oh well, let the highly educated narcisistic, arrogant ( and for some strange reason more and more homosexual) die off, due to their independent, and immoral attitudes so the "regular" folks can get on with the ancient tradition called the cycle of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpcavin View Post
    You are not getting my point. I am not making a political argument. I am not arguing whether the government is right or wrong. Nor whether everyone or just some should get a tax break. On a personal level, I think what this guy is doing is immoral even if it's legal. It's like letting your kids go hungry so that you can eat. Even though you had a cheeseburger earlier. Understand? Don't change my argument into something that is not.
    Probably some confusion in my response. Not specifically to you, but perhaps to this whole board, or atleast to the beginning of this thread. As you think, and others, what this guy is doing is immoral, there seems to be a dearth of complaints about the rich guys getting richer, immorally, and maybe only my opinion, also off the system that codifies it in legal terms. You say "smart investor." I say that guy is smart enough to game the system and no different from your "smart investor" (within the parameters I described).

    I also think, we always seem to go after the "little guy" before we think bigger. It's sort of like that argument "my company took away my private pension, so I want them to take away those government employee's pensions" instead of working to protect his own pension, and then examine where the money that use to pay his pension has gone?

    That lottery winner is small fry. The bigger issues are Wars, Tax Cuts (our tax rate as a % of GDP is the lowest in history), Mortgage hanky panky, etc.

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    Question: For food stamps...does interest income count...possibly from the lottery earnings. Isn't America great! We can have freeloaders still....maybe we...Congress should review the damn existing laws and change them to stop this crazy stuff. Let the govt take care of me.....I am so happy feeling so cared for. It makes me sick! Where are those conservative values. Screw everybody else and let me get mine, not!

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    I dont think its political if I just say the dipshit is nothing but a leech.
    I like TSPTalk and I think most people here are well-intentioned but if I followed their advice, I'd be hunkered down in my basement with a thousand cans of tuna fish.

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    I appreciate the civil discussion, everyone, of this touchy subject ...well, up until FAB1's post anyway (kidding)
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    Default Re: $2M Michigan lottery winner collects Food Stamps

    Could be that he is trying to make a point. Income should NOT be the only thing taken into consideration to get food stamps! DUH!



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    Quote Originally Posted by nnuut View Post
    Could be that he is trying to make a point. Income should NOT be the only thing taken into consideration to get food stamps! DUH!
    Or maybe to prove rich people get to be rich by being stingy...
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    Default Re: $2M Michigan lottery winner collects Food Stamps

    Here's how the food stamp scam works. Big Mama buys the best meat cuts and then turns around and resells the product to raise cash so her illegitimate brats can buy the most expensive sneakers to look cool.

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    Lots of curve balls in this discussion. Won't be long
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birchtree View Post
    Here's how the food stamp scam works. Big Mama buys the best meat cuts and then turns around and resells the product to raise cash so her illegitimate brats can buy the most expensive sneakers to look cool.
    You read my post a few years ago when I was in line behind 10 people at 2:30 a.m. and I thought they were there for a BIG SALE. As I got closer to the register I seen they was using food assistance care, LINK in Illinois, and they were all buying steak. No dairy, no vegetables, no fruit, just steak, and junk food. I was PISSSSSSED because I was there buying hamburger that was on SALE. Then I found out the free loaders then go around to the local food banks to pick up their toiletries and can good. Any generic can good find their way to the trash because they only eat name brand food. Got that from my friend that has several rentals. He has seen it first hand. They go and get what they can for free and cull out the cheap crap and go back for more.

    That's the society your building folks, bend over and get your asses to work.
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    Default Re: $2M Michigan lottery winner collects Food Stamps

    I've actually been in the same checkout lane - it can be very disturbing but is for the benefit of these illegitimate children you know. The Dems keep waiting for another MLK to be born out of those 72%. Why else would they support such a fraudulent scheme - oh I know it's their voting constitutency they are protecting - it has nothing to do with MLK or Clarence Thomas.

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