Thread: Sarah Palin?

Originally Posted by Braveheart

Obama torn apart yup the Dems just found out they can have all the Media bias to promote their unqualified candidate and forgot that the media don't vote and while they are trying to sell this man of "HOPE" it is more like "HYPE".

Sarah Palin just kicked the shi* out of Obama and the media in 30 minutes. She was calm and had a smile on her face while doing it. I wonder is Michelle Obama happy now that her husband can write his 3rd book about how he lost an election because his wife didn't want Hillary Clinton as VP and the DNC with Obama were exposed as frauds.

I think Chris Matthews was crying !!! LMAO

Wow Down Goes Obama .....Down goes Obama - McCain/Palin lead in the new polls and one poll has McCain 54% - Obama 44%.

Side note - MSNBC removed Matthews & Olberman today from any Election Coverage LMAO....The must be in tears !!!

Palin showed them all she is tough and can not be broken.

Originally Posted by Braveheart

Wow Down Goes Obama .....Down goes Obama - McCain/Palin lead in the new polls and one poll has McCain 54% - Obama 44%.

Side note - MSNBC removed Matthews & Olberman today from any Election Coverage LMAO....The must be in tears !!!

Palin showed them all she is tough and can not be broken.

Originally Posted by rokid

Biden, unlike John Kerry, effectively articulated the position that a person could believe that, as a matter of faith, abortion is wrong and still think banning it is bad public policy.

Or, is it the utimate expression of double speak? Catholic theology holds that abortion is murder. If Joe Biden holds the Catholic position as a matter of faith, then his personal contention that it is good public policy to allow murder in a contradiction is somewhat disingenuous.

I don't think he will find any Aquinian theologians that will support this logic.

Originally Posted by SkyPilot

Or, is it the utimate expression of double speak? Catholic theology holds that abortion is murder. If Joe Biden holds the Catholic position as a matter of faith, then his personal contention that it is good public policy to allow murder in a contradiction is somewhat disingenuous

Biden's position is my personal position. Abortion has been prohibited in the past as public policy and the prohibition didn't work. Women still got abortions. However, many died in the act.

There is not a national consensus on when life begins. Therefore, there is not a consensus that abortion is murder.

To impose the religious beliefs of a minority of citizens on the majority is bad public policy. How would it be enforced? Women could leave the country to get abortions. Would they be prevented from returning?

Although I believe abortion is wrong, I don't want the government involved if I change my mind.

Finally, the Republicans have historically talked a good show on abortion to keep Pro-lifers in their camp. However, what did they accomplish when they had control of the Presidency, Congress, and the Supreme Court? Nothing.

Speaking of double-speak, explain to me why so many Pro-lifers hold that it's OK to abort a baby in the case of rape or incest? Isn't that still murder?---Jim

Originally Posted by rokid

Biden's position is my personal position. Abortion has been prohibited in the past as public policy and the prohibition didn't work. Women still got abortions. However, many died in the act.

There is not a national consensus on when life begins. Therefore, there is not a consensus that abortion is murder.

To impose the religious beliefs of a minority of citizens on the majority is bad public policy. How would it be enforced? Women could leave the country to get abortions. Would they be prevented from returning?

Although I believe abortion is wrong, I don't want the government involved if I change my mind.

Finally, the Republicans have historically talked a good show on abortion to keep Pro-lifers in their camp. However, what did they accomplish when they had control of the Presidency, Congress, and the Supreme Court? Nothing.

Speaking of double-speak, explain to me why so many Pro-lifers hold that it's OK to abort a baby in the case of rape or incest? Isn't that still murder?---Jim

I will be happy to respond further, but we have gone into another discussion and I will accomodate you off line by PM. This is likely to become very contentious, and this forum is probably not the place to take this discussion any further.

Originally Posted by rokid

P.S. John Stewart: "If McCain is a qualified leader because he was a POW for 5 years then that must make Guantanamo a "leadership academy."

So, you equate the treatment our POWs received at the Hanoi Hilton with the incarceration of terrorists at Guantanamo?

Originally Posted by SkyPilot

Or, is it the utimate expression of double speak? Catholic theology holds that abortion is murder. If Joe Biden holds the Catholic position as a matter of faith, then his personal contention that it is good public policy to allow murder in a contradiction is somewhat disingenuous.

I don't think he will find any Aquinian theologians that will support this logic.

Disingenuous is a good word...Goes to the stand we see a lot ..The Dems (Liberals) believe in the Roe V Wade ..Okay fine, but don't believe in the death penalty..WTF?

Can you say Hypocrite?

Originally Posted by Buster

..The Dems (Liberals) believe in the Roe V Wade ..

Umm.. Buster-

Have you never seen this?

http://www.democratsforlife.org/

You can't paint all dems with a broad brush. In fact, the party platform struggles each year with the moral issue. And, one year at a time, dems are moving away from abortion towards life.

You'll see.

Originally Posted by James48843

Umm.. Buster-

Have you never seen this?

http://www.democratsforlife.org/

You can't paint all dems with a broad brush. In fact, the party platform struggles each year with the moral issue. And, one year at a time, dems are moving away from abortion towards life.

You'll see.

Good point and thanks for the link! Also google Log Cabin Republicans!

That is why it is so hard to categorize, as the party machines would like to get everyone solidified so they could know what they can count on. We are easily manipulated by stereotypes.

Nuke the Green Whales for Jesus!

Originally Posted by SkyPilot

Good point and thanks for the link! Also google Log Cabin Republicans!

That is why it is so hard to categorize, as the party machines would like to get everyone solidified so they could know what they can count on. We are easily manipulated by stereotypes.

Nuke the Green Whales for Jesus!

Amen! Once we clear the conventions don't get in the way of any candidate charging for the middle! That's where the great majority of us voters are! In a week you won't be able to tell the sheep from the goats!

Race and propaganda are more likely to determine the outcome of the November election than any awareness or consideration of real issues by voters. I'm actually wondering who the cream puff was that gave me negative reputation points because of my comment regarding what the DNC stood for - obviously this person did not watch the Donkey convention. So slap me again because here goes: Democratic Negro Caucus.