Thread: Sarah Palin?

Good research Rokid. Ms. Kilkenny is a brave woman to talk about Palin.

For example its easy to be on the right side of bravery in America by immediately claiming support for our troops and rightfully so. Yet, how many Americans were willing to risk the consequences of using their freedom of thought and speech to challenge the overwhelming majority conventional "group think" that lead to not only thousands of deaths of our troops in Iraq, but hundreds of thousands of Iraqis?

When Bush and Cheney were using retoric to claim evidence of WMD, it seemed clear to me that anyone should have known that B&C had no evidence, unless they were hiding it to protect national security...
But how could presenting evidence of WMD damage national security?

Well as a DoD employee then, I didn't speak out publicly for fear of damaging my financial security and what difference would my opinion have made anyway without any evidence? Many know that the public reputations of whistle blowers in America tend to be just above dirt, yet they are often our first, first line defenders of freedom and truth.

So what does this have to do with Palin and Kilkerry? Kilkerry seems like a tough and brave American to not only say some good things, but some scary things about Palin. If what Kilkerry says is true, about Palin's treachery and requiring (in my opinion) Communist like allegiance from acquaintances and employees, then we must remember our troops are now fighting many Warriors of God.

Originally Posted by Greg

Anybody can say anything about anybody in a letter. That does not mean it any of it is true.

Possibly, however, Ms. Kilkenny's letter was published in The Nation and referenced in a N.Y. Times article.

If it's not true, then Ms. Palin should address the allegations quickly and directly. I wouldn't want her to get "Swift Boated" like John Kerry did in 2004.

Originally Posted by James48843

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Greg:

What if all of it was true?

Would it make a difference to you at all?

Just curious.

Jimbo,

Does what his preacher of 20 years/mentor says make a difference to you at all?

How about his wife saying that she had never been proud of her country and that is a down-right mean country?

Just curious.

Originally Posted by Greg

Jimbo,

Does what his preacher of 20 years/mentor says make a difference to you at all?

I think I was pretty familiar with what was actually said by the preacher, and what context it was said in. And, as a result, I do not give much weight to it at all. I try to look beyond the soundbite of the day.

In short- I've examined the claim, found it to be less important to me that it is to those making the claim, and rejected it's relevance to the Office of President of the United States, and the campaign. The preacher isn't running for President.

How about his wife saying that she had never been proud of her country and that is a down-right mean country?

Just curious.

First- I would look at that quote in context too. What she said was that at a particular time, that she had neven been prouder of her country. And, to the extent of the second part of your quote- can it be mean? Yes, darn tootin'. This campaign shows that there can be "meaness" out there.

We're all just people. And people are not perfect. But those who work with an attitude of "vendetta" turn me off. Period.



But one more thing- I am not voting for the first lady. I am voting on who is going to be the person to control "the button", and lead the nation. And, besides that, who is going to be the number two person in case the number one person is not able to fulfill those duties.

This election- it won't just be "life experience" that we should take into account. It also has to be "life expectancy". Being 73 when sworn in is a lot different that being 55 and being sworn in. So the number 2 pick in my book has a higher calculation in that equation to consider.

Again- the candidate's wife isn't running for the Office of the President. The Candidate is. So no- it has no relevance.

So- I've answered your question- you have not yet answered mine.

If all what is written in that letter is true, does it make a difference to you?

Originally Posted by James48843

So- I've answered your question- you have not yet answered mine.

I certainty don't have a problem with her having the mayor's office refurnished. That is nothing compared to Barrack Milhouse(we can't use his real middle name) Obama having his $1.3 million house paid for by a slum lord.

Originally Posted by Greg

That is nothing compared to Barrack Milhouse(we can't use his real middle name) Obama having his $1.3 million house paid for by a slum lord.

If you're talking about Tony Rezko, your statement is incorrect.

From the Chicago Sun-Times:

'A few months after Obama became a U.S. senator, he and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought adjacent pieces of property from a doctor in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood -- a deal that has dogged Obama the last two years. The doctor sold the mansion to Obama for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife paid full price -- $625,000 -- for the adjacent vacant lot. The deals closed in June 2005. Six months later, Obama paid Rezko's wife $104,500 for a strip of her land, so he could have a bigger yard. At the time, it had been widely reported that Tony Rezko was under federal investigation. Questioned later about the timing of the Rezko deal, Obama called it "boneheaded" because people might think the Rezkos had done him a favor.'

So did Rezko do Obama a favor? Probably. Were Obama (and Michelle) part of Chicago's Democratic Machine? Most certainly. Did Rezko buy Obama's house? No. Should Hillary's campaign (and the national press) have pursued the Obama/Rezko connection more aggressively? Yes.

Who says Obama doesn't have a lot of relevant experience? He sounds like an excellent Chicago politician! -----Jim

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdo...hdog24.article

Originally Posted by James48843

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What if all of it was true?

Jimmy,

The drive-by media makes stuff all the time and gets away with. For one example, the New York Times published articles by Jayson Blair for years where he made-up all the facts while sitting in his apartment or his local Starbucks.

The truth means nothing to liberals.

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Originally Posted by rokid

So did Rezko do Obama a favor? Probably. Were Obama (and Michelle) part of Chicago's Democratic Machine? Most certainly. Did Rezko buy Obama's house? No. Should Hillary's campaign (and the national press) have pursued the Obama/Rezko connection more aggressively? Yes.

Who says Obama doesn't have a lot of relevant experience? He sounds like an excellent Chicago politician! -----Jim

That is what scares me as a neighbor to Illinois.

My brother and sister in laws live just south of Chicago and it scares them to death the thought of someone with Obama's background and experience may be Prez. They've seen him up close and personal and know all the poop and they are pretty liberal dems, but won't be voting for Obama. Just a data point from somone who's seen obama in action.

CB

Originally Posted by CountryBoy

My brother and sister in laws live just south of Chicago and it scares them to death the thought of someone with Obama's background and experience may be Prez. They've seen him up close and personal and know all the poop and they are pretty liberal dems, but won't be voting for Obama. Just a data point from somone who's seen obama in action.

CB

That is the feeling of a lot of folk around Illinois.