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    Quote Originally Posted by k0nkuzh0n View Post
    So from that site, here is the graph
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    "Total number of specimens, number of positive specimens for influenza and ILI cases (per 1,000 per inhabitants) by week and season. Italy, 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17 season."

    Few things to get from this. One, there are more influenza like illnesses that did NOT test positive for influenza, than there are that tested positive. Coronavirus would actually be classified as an ILI. Two, these numbers are cases in a week; Notice it peaks at 1600 cases in a week. Coronavirus is doing 6000+ a DAY in Italy.
    That graph is "specimens" tested, not total cases......

    Total deaths in Italy due to coronavirus has passed 10000, out of 60.5 million people.

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    The USA is about 14 days behind Italy. All those new cases we are seeing- at least 3% -3.5% will be deaths in 14 to 21 days.

    That means, by about April 10, we are looking at a likely 5,000 deaths, just based on the number of positive tests so far, and we are still at least five weeks from the peak of transmission, and about eight weeks away from the peak number of deaths, IF we are lucky!
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    "Conservative estimation based on numbers of urns being given out at 8 crematoriums in Wuhan by financial analyst @charles984681
    Total death in Wuhan: 59K
    Total death in China: 97K
    Total infection in China: 1.21 M"

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/88435z/wuhans-crematoriums-are-filling-thousands-of-urns-with-coronavirus-remains-each-day?utm_source=vicenewsfacebook&fbclid=IwAR3Kitq0r---KRlkhF6GHhpQzi0bQEIVqy3lfkVJliyCMv9bVf2EmnrZJzM


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    Quote Originally Posted by Intrepid_Timer View Post
    That graph is "specimens" tested, not total cases......

    Total deaths in Italy due to coronavirus has passed 10000, out of 60.5 million people.
    You need to do a specimen test to confirm a case. So yes, that is total cases tested, the summation of positive (dark bars) and negative (lighter bars). In comparison, the coronavirus numbers you see all only the positive cases.
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    Is this the Magic elixir?
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    interesting, but didn't actually say how many of his patients were treated with drugs, or any age demographics of his patients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nnuut View Post
    Is this the Magic elixir?
    No, its not. This has been debunked. There is a link to the drafted study somewhere on this forum as well, which if you read closely you can see that they excluded the results of any patients that couldn't complete the study. For example, if you DIED from COVID-19, you didn't complete the study, and therefore were left out of the results. He also removed the results of 3 patients who were transferred to ICU, and one who stopped taking the drugs due to nausea. But hey, 100% success rate in those that finished the study. Even I could have a 1.000 batting average in the majors if you only counted my hits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by k0nkuzh0n View Post
    interesting, but didn't actually say how many of his patients were treated with drugs, or any age demographics of his patients.
    I believe the study started with 26, ended with 20, and 2 of those were placebo so 18 took the drug. Of those, I believe 6 took both drugs combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmneveu View Post
    I believe the study started with 26, ended with 20, and 2 of those were placebo so 18 took the drug. Of those, I believe 6 took both drugs combined.
    In NY? This guy said he has had almost 700 patients.

    He also said he "Lost count".... not sure that helps his credibility if hes not writing this stuff down. Video also seemed very politically charged.
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    Will someone prove their opinions, this someone said or posted stuff, let the truth be known and substantiated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k0nkuzh0n View Post
    In NY? This guy said he has had almost 700 patients.

    He also said he "Lost count".... not sure that helps his credibility if hes not writing this stuff down. Video also seemed very politically charged.
    Apologies. Sounds like this guy added Zinc to the previous 2 drugs tested and says he is having great results with that. I was referring to the original study done in France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nnuut View Post
    Is this the Magic elixir?
    NO!!!

    That guy Rudi G. Is NOT a licensed physician. The guy who he is interviewing is NOT accurate in the information is he sharing.

    I know because I read the French Study he is referring to.

    He just said, in this interview, that the study showed “100% resolution”. That is incorrect.

    In the study, 80 patients who tested positive were given the drugs. There were NO equivalent group given placebos, which is the standard for evaluating success or failure.

    Of the 80 hospitalized patients who tested positive and took the drugs, 8 ended up in the ICU. That number, about 10%, is comparable to what would be expected with no treatment.

    In the study, of the 8 who ended up in the ICU, ONE DIED before the end of seven days, and one was still in critical condition after seven days.

    The remaining six patients were released from ICU and tested at low or no remaining virus in their system. THAT part is good, in that it appears to be a lower virus replication. However, having one dead, and one still in the ICU, shows that the death rate remains comparable to the number of dead without the drug being used.

    More study is required.

    Here is the study. Your video is debunked: https://www.mediterranee-infection.c...ID-IHU-2-1.pdf


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