Looks like we're now getting that first big rally. Oil up over 10%, rates soaring (F fund diving). How far will it go is the question. Anywhere from 2950 to 3200 is my guess based on various gurus' targets.
I had a gut feel yesterday with the plunge in rates that it was time to lock in our rate on the VA mortgage we're refinancing. Got that done last night at a rate of 2.875% with zero points. Nice!
This whole experience the last few weeks has me rethinking my decision to not roll over my TSP to an IRA now that I'm retired...the 12 noon IFT deadline and 2 IFT's/month rules have crushed what was a nice gain a couple weeks ago, from +7% to -7% in just days. That would have never happened with an IRA, where you could also make moves pretty much 24/7 and not be at the mercy of the market closing price. I also can't stand the TSP's dumb rule that you have to send them a notarized form (with the spouse's concurrence) every time you change the amount of your monthly withdrawal or make a small one-time withdrawal. I might change my mind soon and do the rollover so that I'd have both my Roth IRA and a new traditional IRA with TD Ameritrade (soon to be Schwab-Ameritrade or whatever the new company will be called). My Roth IRA is at +51.6% as of today, my trading account is at +145% as of this moment ...my TSP -7%? I really need to make that move and rid myself of the TSP.
P.S. - I see on CNBC that the government is talking about cutting the payroll tax to 0%, and making it permanent. Uh, how will that work, just print money? What genius's. I need a good new avatar to represent a banana republic. Maybe that 100 trillion dollar Zimbabwe bill I have.
Last edited by Tsunami; 03-10-2020 at 02:52 PM. Reason: added the P.S.
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Teddy Roosevelt: Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official. Retired on November 30, 2023 with 30+ years of service.
Same here! I am so mad right now I could chew nails and spit barbed wire! I made an IFT today right before the cut off. The market was about flat at that time. Then it closed up 5%. Had I had it in my Fidelity account I would have used the same amount of money and bought the SPY. I would have sold before the close and made 5% today alone! Seriously, I am considering just taking my $260k out of the TSP, paying the 10% penalty and the taxes and putting MY money in Fidelity so I can manage it as I see fit.
Hmm, just like last Friday, yesterday I had an IFT in to move to G and cancelled it at the last minute. But today I see that TSP moved me to G last night. Did they have mercy on me? Maybe I messed up and didn't hit the "submit" button (I did that once before in the past)? The tracker will still show me in stocks today, but I'm in G, and my TSP balance is all the way down to where it was when I retired 14 months ago. In any case, I'm glad (for the moment) to wake up to this news, but now I'm locked out until 4/1, and I still think the market is going to bounce in a big way soon....although at this point I don't see anything the government can do to "fix" things.
The first step in fixing things will be when we see the yellow "other locations" line in the lower right chart start to flatten out...for the best view hit the logarithmic tab then the upper right button to go full screen.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6
A couple thoughts on targets....perhaps the final bottom will come at the 50% level at around 1700, which happens to be the where the 200-month moving average is:
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%2...=668&cmd=print
It seems like that would be the worst case if the panic continues for another week or two, but then again there's Hussman's target of around a 80% crash.
Peter Eliades has come out with a new target that's about 15% lower at a minimum. That could be reached by tomorrow very easily...beware the Ides of March...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GeRQXXNwc
Honestly, I don't think the government fixing things will be what turns things around; I think it will be reports like the one I posted where nothing is really happening to the economy... and people pull their heads out of their... the sand, yeah, the sand... that's the ticket!
50% S, 50% C 06 Mar, was 100% G; 80% S 20% C COB 08 Jan '24; 100% G COB 14 Nov; was 100% C COB 31 Oct (Boo!); was 100% G COB 12 Oct; was 50% C, 50% S COB 22 Jun; Life is good!
Weatherweenie's Account Talk
Teddy Roosevelt: Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official. Retired on November 30, 2023 with 30+ years of service.
I may be a focus group of one, but I was out last night and all the restaurants near my house were packed. The problems are where 'social distancing' is being imposed on people... St. Pat's Parades being cancelled, students being sent home, sports events cancelled... for no good reason. The Wuhan Flu doesn't appear any more contagious or dangerous than the regular flu.
50% S, 50% C 06 Mar, was 100% G; 80% S 20% C COB 08 Jan '24; 100% G COB 14 Nov; was 100% C COB 31 Oct (Boo!); was 100% G COB 12 Oct; was 50% C, 50% S COB 22 Jun; Life is good!
Something I've never seen, chart #05, the S&P has penetrated the lower envelope, really oversold here...
https://stockcharts.com/public/1172710
Tim Wood interviews Peter Eliades:
https://www.cyclesman.com/wp-content...ter-030920.mp3
Just for the record, my move to the G fund was yesterday on 3/11, not today. So I luckily avoided today's huge loss and I'm 14.5% above the C fund, but that could completely evaporate by the time I can get back in on April Fools Day....
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Last edited by Tsunami; 03-12-2020 at 08:11 PM.
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50% S, 50% C 06 Mar, was 100% G; 80% S 20% C COB 08 Jan '24; 100% G COB 14 Nov; was 100% C COB 31 Oct (Boo!); was 100% G COB 12 Oct; was 50% C, 50% S COB 22 Jun; Life is good!
A question for anyone that's done it, how long is the timeline for transferring your TSP to a traditional IRA with a broker? I'm wondering if it can be done within 2 weeks or does the TSP drag it out longer?
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