Very interesting Barney!! Looks like it's worth a try?
Keep us advised!
NOrman
I was just playing with some numbers in the TSP because of our two move restrictions. I looked back through each year to 2003, and added up the daily returns in 2 incriments.
First, I added up the returns for the F, C, S, and I Funds for the 1st of the month thru the 14th of the month. I also did the same for the 15th - 31st of each month.
Then I added up all the totals for each year:
all of the 1-14
all of the 15-31
Although the pattern is not consistant, the results are interesting, to say the least.
I am going to try this and see what the results will bring. Tomorrow, I will IFT 100% into the S-fund. Then on Monday, June 30th, I will IFT into the G-fund. I will repeat this process for the first and 15th of every month. If the numbers change for 2008, then I might readjust.
The below numbers for 2008 are the figures up till June 11, 2008.
Attachment 4063
Very interesting Barney!! Looks like it's worth a try?
Keep us advised!
NOrman
That's a good-to-know trend. By going to the G-fund on the last day of every month, you are not wasting one of your 2 allotted IFTs to move to the G-fund early in the month. You then have some flexibility to go 100% S, then 100% I or any combination you'd like and still be free to use a (bonus) third move to get back to the G at the end of the month.
However, if you are in an uptrend, you wouldn't want to bail to G just because it's the last day of the month. You'd waste your first IFT getting back into the fund you bailed from when you didn't have to. Here's my strategy. On the last trading day of the month, before NOON:
- Look at the LMBF. If it exceeds my return for the month, and if I haven't used my 2nd IFT, move to the indicated fund before noon. I still have my 2 IFT's for the following month to reallocate for more profit or bail.
- If the trend is up for the fund I'm in, stay put. I still have my 2 IFT's.
- If it's time to bail, do it to G and be set for next month. Still have my 2 IFT's.
I used the LMBF and broke it down in half. It is the Last Two Weeks Best Funds LTWBF. And, so far for 2008, from the 15th to the end of the month, the best return is the S fund. If something in the news says that the S-fund might not do so well, then we can either slowly put it into the G-fund or all at one time and it will either count as the second move or 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.
What floors me is the 1st thru 14th- yes, there will be some up days in different funds, but overall, they all are negative numbers. I'll be keeping a close eye on those numbers.
Thanks for your replies.
The last two weeks of June killed the numbers for the S-fund. However, it is picking up again.
Attachment 4320
I am looking at new data. Instead of only looking at the 1st and 15th, I am now breaking it down into 1-09, 10-19 and 20-31. Here are the returns as I see it:
Attachment 4620
I will be moving into the S- Fund on the 10th (or there abouts);
moving 50/50 S and I- Funds on the 20th ("")
and back into the G- Fund sometime before the 1st of the following month.
Barney
I have not posted in a while. Just sitting back wondering how to make heads or tails of this market. I have been keeping track of returns broken into the 3 segments of a month. I have left everything in the S and am seeing a 7.17% return. Although the data changes in this market, here are the returns to date:
Attachment 6262
Ideally, one could be making 13.86% by going into the S-Fund from the 1st of the month to the 19th then IFT to the G-Fund for the last segment. I am happy with my 7.17%.
Hope you are seeing happy returns.
Barney
I started tracking daily returns back in June 2008. Then I back tracked to 2003 and analyzed for patterns that fit. It seems to be similar to the Last Months Best Fund method, except I broke it down into 3 segments. I am also looking at the 1st and the 15th of the month data. It is very interesting data, however it is not the crystal ball and if your not watching carefully, it can drop your numbers like a rock . I was lucky by leaving mine in the S-fund.
There is a huge difference in the past years when we were in a bull market vs. this bear data.
I also have a correction to make on the 20th -31st of the month data. Below is the daily updated and correct data:
Attachment 6285
Barney,
Interesting pattern with your 3 a month. I asked Coolhand if he had heard of your system and if he had compared it with the Seven Sentinal's buy/sell. Thought I would ask you the same thing, in reverse, and see what you think! If yours and the SS match it would be the perfect marriage for our 2 transfers a month! (as I said to Cool, wishful thinking, I'm sure!!!)
Looking at the SS's, that Coolhand refers to, they seem to provide strong indicators when to buy or sell. I would crunch it myself but I know my limitations! I am not as adept at crunching numbers as you guys are and thought I should leave it up to persons that much less likely to screw up!
-mcq
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