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    Quote Originally Posted by NatInPW View Post
    I'm not 100% sure, but I think that the amount on your SS statement at full retirement age PRESUMES that you actually work until full retirement age. If you're retiring before then, your $$$ will be much less than what the estimate would be at FRA. It's hard to get a definitive answer on this, but I've asked one of our retirement seminar providers and a recent retiree who postponed claiming a few years after retirement and they both seem to say that it does no good to wait to claim SS after you actually retire as the $$$ doesn't go up very much at all (a little, but not much)
    This is the presumption I get as well from the SS website. There is a calculator I ran on there where I put in 56 years old as the age when I stopped working and made zero dollars after that and it decreased my amount at 62 on my statement by 10%. It wouldn't change the numbers for 67 and 70 and the calculator assumed I would make my current income until those ages. That makes it difficult to know what it would be if I held out until later. It says it goes up by 8% a year but if they assume you're working and not sitting on your butt collecting your pension, the numbers would drop, but by how much?

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    If you are CSRS you get penalized on your SS because of your pension. FERS no penalty.
    In my opinion if you are still working it is best to wait until you reach FRA then collect SS. If you wait until 70 it could take 7-10 years to make up the difference if you started collecting at FRA. Then again if you live to be 100 you loose money.
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    I'm 33yo so who the hell knows. What I do know is my pension will be wildly different if I retire at 20 years at E-7, or keep promoting, stay in, and eventually retire as an E-9 with 30. The difference is absolutely massive. But, less years on the back end to enjoy it. And more years my family has to deal with military life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmneveu View Post
    I'm 33yo so who the hell knows. What I do know is my pension will be wildly different if I retire at 20 years at E-7, or keep promoting, stay in, and eventually retire as an E-9 with 30. The difference is absolutely massive. But, less years on the back end to enjoy it. And more years my family has to deal with military life.
    Financially, when you go over 20 years your base pay is 1/2. If you do the math, since you may work after retirement, it would be better to get a job then and invest your military retirement check. I'll look for the site I used to go to do that math.
    THIS IS WHERE I WOULD PUT SOMETHING TO REPRESENT MY THINKING, BUT THEN THEY SHOW UP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nasa1974 View Post
    If you are CSRS you get penalized on your SS because of your pension. FERS no penalty.
    In my opinion if you are still working it is best to wait until you reach FRA then collect SS. If you wait until 70 it could take 7-10 years to make up the difference if you started collecting at FRA. Then again if you live to be 100 you loose money.

    I did the math on SS. The tables show that if you make it to 80, it doesn't matter if you take it when you are first eligible or wait until FRA. You'll draw the same total amount. I'm taking at 62. That way my wife can draw off my SA account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weather View Post
    I did the math on SS. The tables show that if you make it to 80, it doesn't matter if you take it when you are first eligible or wait until FRA. You'll draw the same total amount. I'm taking at 62. That way my wife can draw off my SA account.
    I started mine at 64 and am glad I did.



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    I waited for three reasons 1) was the CSRS penalty 2) I failed retirement and I'm still working full time and 3) I didn't want the SS penalty.
    So why take it now? I did the math and it's better to get it now then at 70.5, 1) is less of a penalty, 3) isn't in the mix anymore and in 2021 I'm planning for retirement 2.0.
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    Brass Tacks:

    I expect to retire at 58, FERS, with supplement. How long does the supplement last? 62 when I'm eligible, or when I file for SS later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frixxxx View Post
    Brass Tacks:

    I expect to retire at 58, FERS, with supplement. How long does the supplement last? 62 when I'm eligible, or when I file for SS later?

    Good Plan!
    Supplement is good to 62.
    SS starts at 62. (If you want it, otherwise whenever you decide to take it. I’m sure you’ve seen all the discussion lately on when is best to start taking SS.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frixxxx View Post
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    I expect to retire at 58, FERS, with supplement. How long does the supplement last? 62 when I'm eligible, or when I file for SS later?
    Not only dose the supplement stop when you reach age 62, you need to be aware that the supplement is also subject to an earnings test. That is, your supplement will be reduced if you have earned income exceeding $18,240 (2020 number). I retired at 57 and have had to keep an eye on my earnings the past 3 years to keep the full supplement amount in play. I may actually work full time again once the supplement goes away when I reach 62 as I don't plan to start drawing SS until I reach my FRA at 67.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frixxxx View Post
    Financially, when you go over 20 years your base pay is 1/2. If you do the math, since you may work after retirement, it would be better to get a job then and invest your military retirement check. I'll look for the site I used to go to do that math.
    Every year after 20 adds 2.5%, capping out at 30 years / 75%. I'd also be making a pretty decent annual salary while still in at that point.


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