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    I don't think the car is very good, although besides my affluent sister I don't know anyone who owns one. The stock is overpriced and while it has had a run, it can and has moved double digits down in the process. Like 25% in a week. I recall owning it once, buying at the close the day before earnings, selling at the open for a 10% gain, and the stock was down 8% at the close. What's the PE?: 1500:1? Could it go higher? sure. so can bitcoin. It can also turn on a dime at any time and go down 50% or more in a heartbeat and dozens of analysts will claim they predicted it.

    There are other companies, and there will have to be other companies, to supply electric vehicles.....XH, RIDE, to name a few....which are both down today, and charging stations (BLNK, SBE (SPAC for electrify america or some such)), and battery components (ALB, LIT) if the world converts to this technology. But at $800/share, I'm ready to delete TSLA and their cramped, heavy cars, from my watch list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James48843 View Post
    Those are the stories that really scare the hell out of me. Someone sold their house, so they could dabble in options contracts???

    Tesla WILL crash at some point in time. Whether it is next week, next year, or five years from now, it’s gonna happen.

    One should make sure they have a place to sleep, before the crash sends them out in the street.


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    Sounds like that person has a gambling problem. That usually ends in disaster. I dabbled with options in the past, and although the rush of calling a move perfectly can be awesome, you can lose your money just as fast. That and the time decay makes things even more stressful. A couple months after getting into it, i went back to just trading shares, it wasn't for me.
    I trade based on volume + price action. Price action alone only tells half the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper View Post
    Sounds like that person has a gambling problem. That usually ends in disaster. I dabbled with options in the past, and although the rush of calling a move perfectly can be awesome, you can lose your money just as fast. That and the time decay makes things even more stressful. A couple months after getting into it, i went back to just trading shares, it wasn't for me.
    Same here. I go long traditional shares only. I don't even short stocks. And never touched an option. Way too much risk.

    As for Tesla, it's the most technologically advanced vehicle I have ever sat in, but that's only a small part of the valuation at this point. People are betting on the battery technology more than the car. It is years ahead of any other battery maker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bmneveu View Post
    Same here. I go long traditional shares only. I don't even short stocks. And never touched an option. Way too much risk.

    As for Tesla, it's the most technologically advanced vehicle I have ever sat in, but that's only a small part of the valuation at this point. People are betting on the battery technology more than the car. It is years ahead of any other battery maker.
    Same here, I stopped trying to play the short game a long time ago, and started to win a lot more as a result. Learned that it's usually an exercise in futility betting against something that's designed to keep going up
    I trade based on volume + price action. Price action alone only tells half the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper View Post
    Same here, I stopped trying to play the short game a long time ago, and started to win a lot more as a result. Learned that it's usually an exercise in futility betting against something that's designed to keep going up
    I don't want to high jack the Tesla thread too much, but while we're on the subject; when stocks are at all time highs it's easy to convince me that buy and hold is best.

    This week's video from Ciovacco Capital is very good. Normally he's all rainbows and lollipops about the market, but this week he mentions the historical risks of a buy and hold strategy, especially those 40+.

    That said, I had a rough year in 2020, shorting the indices way too much, and boy does my butt hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullitt View Post
    How many $600 deposits are going into Robinhood on Monday?
    Wonder how much went into bitcoin/crypto as it hit $40k. Crypto/Tesla... same thing.

    This week we posed the following question related to how traders and investors plan to use their stimulus money: What sector of stocks will you buy with your stimulus check?

    58.8% of traders and investors told us they will buy electric vehicle stocks
    . Investors most frequently cited Tesla Inc (NASDAQ: TSLA), Nio Inc - ADR (NYSE: NIO) and Li Auto Inc (NASDAQ: LI) as the stocks on the top of their wishlists. (Of course, only a fraction of one share of Tesla could be bought with $600 — shares closed last week at $880.02.)
    https://www.benzinga.com/trading-ide...ce=parsely-api

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    The amount of graphite and lithium needed to be mined for Tesla to produce 20M cars is 94% and 165% of 2019's production.

    https://twitter.com/chamath/status/1356130304684040194

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    So that's why Musk is also in the space flight business. He needs to pillage other planets for their resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullitt View Post
    The amount of graphite and lithium needed to be mined for Tesla to produce 20M cars is 94% and 165% of 2019's production.

    https://twitter.com/chamath/status/1356130304684040194
    So how do we use this information to make better investments? Other than shorting Tesla, because I wouldn't bet on Elon and his team to fail at scaling their operation. Look for publicly traded graphite and lithium miners?

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    I know, Elon can do nothing wrong and will someday have his face on the moon. As funny as that joke about SpaceX was, it's probably not far-fetched.

    Investment ideas? Certain miners will benefit, especially when laws come into play similar to the Kimberly Process with diamonds. Most of the stuff on that list is dug up by child labor in 3rd world countries.

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    Time to short tesla again? Stop above 850 - yesterday's high? Above 875 would be even better but of course that's a bigger loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsptalk View Post
    Time to short tesla again?
    I sold my position earlier this week. Still heavily in the ARK ETFs that hold it, but I don't own it directly anymore. I don't know that I would short it though as the momentum is still up and shorts seem to get crushed in this one pretty often.


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