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    You just can't fight the trend Brother. I continue to play small ball, but trading with the trend. I made some Beer Money yesterday using VXX.

    Have a nice weekend!
    “There is only one side to the stock market; and it is not the bull side or the bear side, but the right side” Jesse L. Livermore

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    Cycle data:

    The 7/10/21 Weekend Report Preview
    Stocks appear to be entering a melt-up phase.
    https://likesmoneycycletrading.wordp...eport-preview/
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    VTI monthly: My monthly chart below of the Total Stock Market at Vanguard. I use it to track the yearly cycle data. We are in month 16. Also, I find the word "starting" a melt-up phase as funny......However, I will continue to trade what is happening and the trend remains up!
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    Not that anyone even cares anymore.....

    S&P - cheap or expensive?
    You decide, but S&P500 trailing PE is currently at 30x,m highest in 100 years and the average is around 15x.

    Some mean reversion anyone?

    We know of very few bears, and even less people short stocks and long bonds. According to BofA Q3 pain trade is SPX sub 4000 led by tech...

    Imagine the pain, just in time when people have been forced to chase tech longs during the past month.
    https://themarketear.com/
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    SPY 2 hour chart: Another ATH...... I will be trading the 2 hour chart next week.
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    One of the many tools that can help you trade is moving averages. I like to use the KISS system so this is one of the tools I use. The 3 ema and the 9 ema was my preferred choice for ST trading and I still use them for ST trading now. They help me guess at turns or trend changes. Note I said GUESS! Those moving averages are explained in the video below. I went to the 10, 20, 50, and and 200 day moving averages, because the cycle dudes use them.

    I very simple video on this subject. There are hundreds of them out there. Understanding how to use them and then trading (buying and selling) in real-time with a 100k is different.

    Keep in mind it's Risk Management that keeps me in the game. This market has been easy to trend trade, but that could change in the months ahead. When it does so will I.

    How to Use Moving Averages for Stock Trading
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Ulu0jZCJI

    The daily chart below has the 10,20,50,100 and 200 dma's on it. Back test them and see if it would have helped you with your trading. I use the daily closing for MT signals.
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    This is what I will be using next week for trading based on the current market conditions and where we are in the current cycle. The 9 ema and the 20 ema on the 2 hour chart. Back test it yourself and see where you would ST trade ( buy and sell signals). I use a mix of ma's and so should you based on what type of trading you are doing. Some investors use the weekly charts, and trade the MT trends. I will post one after the 2 hour chart I will be using next week.

    A sell on the 2 hour chart does "NOT" always mean a sell on the daily. But I could be trading a small position using leverage on the 2 hour and I use the closing price on the daily for MT trading. Again, I have my own system and this data is used differently by traders, and some don't use it at all.
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    VTI weekly: If you are using the weekly and the 20 wma you have done well this run. However, this late in the cycle my system takes profits on the MT position. Just because I'm long on the weekly doesn't mean I'm not short on the 2 hour chart trading other sectors. Back test it for yourself.... I use the daily or less for trading, and the weekly and monthly to help me keep track of where we are in the current cycle. My system would NEVER be all in this late in the weekly cycle. The easy money is coming out of a cycle low.

    How many sell signals do you see on the weekly chart? If you are trend trading using the 20 wma none since the first buy signal. I'm using the closing weekly price? Count them and back test them for yourself. However, it's not always this easy!

    Anyway, I was asked about my signals and this covers some of the tools I use for trend trading. I will post some import rules I use some other time, and YES I lose money and get whipsawed. However, the idea is to catch major trend moving up and miss them moving down. The goal is to gain 80% of a new MT cycle, and miss part of MT or YCL's.

    I use some different tools coming out of an extreme or a cycle low for my buy signals, and will scale in when adding.
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    Trend Trading: I have posted this link before. Risk Management comes in when "YOU" must determine how much of your account do you use on any single trade based on a buy signal.

    Weekly Report from the Fibtimer Stock Market Timing Services

    Aiming For The Moon!


    Trend traders do not try to catch exact tops. Nor do we try to catch exact bottoms.

    We do not believe that anyone can.

    Of course with hundreds of different opinions available at any time, someone will always be lucky and call an exact bottom or top. The financial news media is quick to go with the hype.

    But try and do it over and over and over.

    So how do trend traders know when a trend and begun?

    The answer is... "after" it has started. Using prices, which are the only measurement of the markets that can "always" be depended upon, we can create specific trading rules that define when we are in a trend.

    We could say that if the market rises a specific percent from a low, that we are in an up trend. At that point, we can take a long, bullish position.

    "as trend timers we aim for the moon. If a trend goes 200% we want to be on board it from our entry point, right to the 200% point. We want it all."But when do we exit? Do we exit after we have a 10% return? Or maybe set a goal of 20% and cross our fingers?

    No... as trend timers we aim for the moon. If a trend goes 200% we want to be on board it from our entry point, right to the 200% point. We want it all.

    But, then how do we know when to exit? The answer is simple...

    Going For The Home Run

    We exit "after" the trend has ended, and not until then. That means we stay until "after" the trend reverses.

    When we start the trade, we go in looking for a home run. The sky is the limit.

    We do not exit the trade until the market reverses and "prices" have moved far enough in the "opposite" direction to tell us a "new" trend has likely started.

    That means we usually don't get in an exact bottom. It also means we usually don't get out at an exact top. It means that sometimes we take small losses when our requirement is met for a new trend, if the trend fails (and they do... remember the 20% of the time when the markets are NOT in a trend).

    But most importantly, it means we "never miss" any substantial trends, and we ride every trend as far as it will take us! All identified trends are traded. All of them.

    This is where market timers make their big profits. They do go through occasional boring sideways markets, but when the market does trend, they are "always" on board for the majority of that trend.

    By always going for the home run, trend traders, like baseball players, may have some strike outs (small losses). But those strike outs are obliterated by the home runs which we ride for all they are worth.
    https://www.fibtimer.com/subscribers...commentary.asp
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    SPY 2 hour chart: Starting out the day/week from another ATH.

    I will be using the 2 hour chart this week for trading.
    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SP...75&a=990042593
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    GDX weekly: Is it time to buy? That depends on whom you ask......
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    GDX: The chart below is a look at the last 9 years for the Miners. If history repeats it might be time to buy some shares..... Don't forget that today is easy money Monday! Watching to see how it plays out and I will be doing some ST trading only.


    Highlighted are the rallies that began during the summer months (late May through early September).
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