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Buster
03-05-2010, 01:43 PM
When you think you've heard every reason to not do something, one more comes a long...:rolleyes::laugh:




Home-brew beer bill passes over objections in Oklahoma House


BY MICHAEL MCNUTT The Oklahoman Published: March 4, 2010



Despite a lawmaker’s worries it could lead to legalizing marijuana, a measure that would allow Oklahomans to legally brew beer for their own use won easy passage Wednesday in the House of Representatives (http://newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=U.S.+House+of+Representatives&CATEGORY=ORGANIZATION).


A bill that would legalize home brewing won passage in the state House.



House Bill 2348 would allow Oklahomans to brew up to 200 gallons, or about 80 cases, a year for their personal use.
Brewer’s burden
They must get a permit from the state’s liquor agency, just as people who make wine or cider do now. Beer made for personal use would not be subject to excise tax.
It’s legal for Oklahomans to make wine and cider, but state law excludes beer brewing, said Rep. Colby Schwartz (http://newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Colby+Schwartz&CATEGORY=PERSON), author of HB 2348. Many brew beer for their own use, to serve to guests and to enter in beer-making competitions.
The prohibition is rarely enforced, said Schwartz, R-Yukon. State liquor agents are hard-pressed to enforce laws at commercial establishments, let alone going door to door to check brewing operations.
Anyone brewing beer at home now could face a fine of up to $5,000.
Opponent speaks
HB 2348 passed 76-19. It now goes to the Senate.
"What’s next?” asked Rep. Todd Russ, R-Cordell (http://newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Todd+Russ&CATEGORY=PERSON). "California (http://newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=California&CATEGORY=STATE) has marijuana legalized. We complain people are making drugs in their houses right now and yet we’re going to go and pass a bill that says this (home brew) is not a bad drug.”

Bill brings ‘parity’
"If you want to have a debate and carry a bill out here that outlaws all alcohol in Oklahoma (http://newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Oklahoma&CATEGORY=STATE), you can do that,” Schwartz said. "What I chose to do is to bring the home making of beer into parity with what is already provided for wine and cider.”
Russ said he worries legalizing home brewing could lead to more state alcohol problems.
Schwartz said most home brewers are responsible, often spending thousands of dollars on equipment. It takes time to make the beer compared with being able to buy beer or liquor now for immediate consumption.
Russ told his fellow House members to think twice before voting for HB 2348, "and if you go to church Sunday, remember how you voted today.”
‘This is ridiculous’
Rep. Joe Dorman, D-Rush (http://newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Joe+Dorman&CATEGORY=PERSON) Springs, said he thought conservatives were against government in people’s lives. It’s not an issue about character — at least three of the Founding Fathers made their own brews, he said.
"Samuel Adams (http://newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Samuel+Adams&CATEGORY=PERSON) has a beer named after him,” Dorman said. "This is ridiculous,” he said. "These people have this as a hobby, they make their own product and they share it with their friends. ... This is one of those issues that makes us look stupid to the rest of the country.”



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FAB1
03-05-2010, 01:47 PM
Im speechless.

Silverbird
03-05-2010, 02:26 PM
Someone needs their logic wires fixed.
Marijuana = intoxicating substance
Home Brew = intoxicating substance
HOWEVER
Marijuana Does NOT = Home brew

You can see the bad logic using a more obvious example

Dog = Animal
Cat = Animal
Dog = Cat (NO!)

Frixxxx
03-05-2010, 02:59 PM
Someone needs their logic wires fixed.
Marijuana = intoxicating substance
Home Brew = intoxicating substance
HOWEVER
Marijuana Does NOT = Home brew

You can see the bad logic using a more obvious example

Dog = Animal
Cat = Animal
Dog = Cat (NO!)
Wait wait wait, Silverbird....Did you just use logic?:blink:

Logic...when used with politics causes mass confusion.:nuts:

Right - making home brew.
Right - drinking home brew - Law -> 21 and over
Right - driving a car - Law 16 and over with license
Right - driving after drinking home brew - Law .00-.08 level

This is where government has EPIC FAILURE!

nnuut
03-05-2010, 03:47 PM
Hey, I home brew beer!!! No wacky tabacky though.:D hic! 8592 8594 8593

Frixxxx
03-05-2010, 03:53 PM
Hey, I home brew beer!!! No wacky tabacky though.:D hic! 8592 8594 8593
Slacker!!!!!!:laugh:

Viva_La_Migra
03-05-2010, 04:50 PM
Home brewing leads to marijuana like Tylenol leads to prescritption drug abuse!:rolleyes:

James48843
03-05-2010, 05:19 PM
Hey Buster-

If you start home-brewing beer there in Oklahoma, can I come over and put it in a bong?

There's nothing like fresh brewed beer to take the edge off bong water.

Buster
03-05-2010, 06:49 PM
Hey Buster-

If you start home-brewing beer there in Oklahoma, can I come over and put it in a bong?

There's nothing like fresh brewed beer to take the edge off bong water.
Now yer talkin:)...Was a time we use to use Boone's Farm...;)

James48843
03-05-2010, 07:07 PM
Now yer talkin:)...Was a time we use to use Boone's Farm...;)


Apple Blossom preferred.
3.9% Alcohol
Distinguished metal screw-on cap.
Mmmm......

8597

PessOptimist
03-05-2010, 07:26 PM
Easy now people, others are listening. What is this "bong" thing you speak of?:D

alevin
03-05-2010, 07:36 PM
Hmm, I can see we have experts (includes reformed experts) onboard. The things I never knew-too many to count. :toung:

Buster
03-05-2010, 08:21 PM
Just an observation..But isn't delightful how the mere subject of Mary-Jane, brings out the coolness in people?:)

James48843
03-05-2010, 08:24 PM
...The things I never knew...
I admit I was a child of the late 1960's, and I grew up and went to college in the 1970s.......


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/84531663_55f22fa2e2.jpg


And that's all I am going to say.

Buster
03-05-2010, 08:30 PM
I admit I was a child of the late 1960's, and I grew up and went to college in the 1970s.......



70's ???...When were the 70's ?..I remember the 60's and 80's and 90's..but for some reason the 70's is all a blurrrrr:cool:

vTVYtbzyWnw

nnuut
03-05-2010, 08:48 PM
70's ???...When were the 70's ?..I remember the 60's and 80's and 90's..but for some reason the 70's is all a blurrrrr:cool:

vTVYtbzyWnw
As a government worker I pleaded the 5th for 36.5 years!! Now I'm retired. 8600

Buster
03-05-2010, 08:52 PM
As a government worker I pleaded the 5th for 36.5 years!! Now I'm retired. 8600
Roll em if ya got em Bro:cool:

grandma
03-05-2010, 09:08 PM
70's ???...When were the 70's ?..I remember the 60's and 80's and 90's..but for some reason the 70's is all a blurrrrr:cool:


I remember the 70's well - spent my time trying to keep the kids' dad from killing our son, and the older girls' boyfriends!
(well, not literally, but according to them, yes!)

A recent letter to the editor from someone down Little Rock way said everyone over 60 yo should be banned from driving. ...that all those old people did was text, talk on their phones, drive slow, etc., etc. It was funny.

- I wondered then if the `past 60' is the new `over 30's' - :D
anyway, I didn't bite .... !!

nnuut
03-05-2010, 09:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbY9ePebWB8

KevinD
03-06-2010, 06:26 AM
http://community.webshots.com/user/KevinD59

album 1, photos 75 through 92. Some time between '77 and '80. :blink: :D

Float reunion is 30 years later. :)

grandma
03-06-2010, 09:30 AM
album 1, photos 75 through 92. Some time between '77 and '80.
Float reunion is 30 years later.

Kevin - photos look like fun! Were you part of the drum corps? Nice looking home in the reunion snaps - thanx for sharing...:)
(I have to confess - I saw the beach & shore-line; but I missed the Float part somehow..:embarrest:

KevinD
03-06-2010, 09:37 AM
Kevin - photos look like fun! Were you part of the drum corps? Nice looking home in the reunion snaps - thanx for sharing...:)
(I have to confess - I saw the beach & shore-line; but I missed the Float part somehow..:embarrest:


Sorry about that. Tom Float (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Float) was our instructor.

I marched in the Spirit of Atlanta Drum and Bugle Corps 1977 through 1980. The drum line in red were our arch rivals at the time...The Santa Clara Vanguard. The reunion took place in a club house of the subdivision of another one of our instructors...Mike Back.

KevinD
03-06-2010, 09:42 AM
Tom Float is the guy in the middle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FGhBfJJOJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWkeXGjCCDE

grandma
03-06-2010, 10:17 AM
thanx for the clarification - & more drumming! I love watching the drummer in our church band - I swear sometimes I think he is chasing mosquitos!!

Frixxxx
03-08-2010, 09:25 AM
Just an observation..But isn't delightful how the mere subject of Mary-Jane, brings out the coolness in people?:)
Who is this Mary-Jane and exactly what is she doing to these people?:laugh:

nnuut
03-08-2010, 09:32 AM
Who is this Mary-Jane and exactly what is she doing to these people?:laugh:
MARIA JUANA, My wife's name!:D

Viva_La_Migra
03-10-2010, 07:26 PM
Just thinking aloud, I wonder how beer made with marijuana (http://www.onr.com/user/liberty/Marijuana/MBeer/MBeer.html) would taste?:blink:

Buster
03-10-2010, 07:32 PM
Just thinking aloud, I wonder how beer made with marijuana (http://www.onr.com/user/liberty/Marijuana/MBeer/MBeer.html) would taste?:blink:


The first couple of swigs is all that would matter....after that who'd care...wooooohooooo!:D

Viva_La_Migra
03-10-2010, 08:18 PM
The first couple of swigs is all that would matter....after that who'd care...wooooohooooo!:D
I wonder if one could brew it in California and sell it to medical marijuana distributors? The state would probably allow it, if one obtained the proper permits of course.