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James48843
12-09-2009, 09:40 PM
PAY RAISE IS A DONE DEAL- 1.5% Base, 0.5% towards locality.

The 2010 federal pay increase is comprised of a base increase of 1.5% and an average of 0.5% increase to locality. The locality increase overrides the President's request.

Details: http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=44201&dcn=todaysnews

XL-entLady
12-09-2009, 09:44 PM
As my grandaddy would say, "Beats a jab in the eye with a sharp stick!" :D

Lady

350zCommTech
12-09-2009, 09:45 PM
PAY RAISE IS A DONE DEAL- 1.5% Base, 0.5% towards locality.

The 2010 federal pay increase is comprised of a base increase of 1.5% and an average of 0.5% increase to locality. The locality increase overrides the President's request.

Details: http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=44201&dcn=todaysnews


I'll take it. It's not a zero or worst, a reduction in pay(to help pay for GS's $17B bonus).

Buster
12-10-2009, 07:41 AM
Shouldn't this be moved to DAY JOB thread?

dannyboy
12-10-2009, 08:08 AM
:o I these tough times, every little positive helps.

Buster
12-10-2009, 09:00 AM
:o I these tough times, every little positive helps.
I'll take it:)...I remember through the 8 miserable years with Reagan..We the Federal employee had either our January pay frozen every year, along with Step increases..plus we had the doom of impending furloughs or RIFS hangin over our heads all the time.:mad:

Scout333
12-10-2009, 10:55 AM
How is this better than a flat 2% raise? I can see if you're in a high cost area but what about the RUS folks?:confused:

burrocrat
12-10-2009, 10:58 AM
i'll take the 1.5% and be thankful for it, last i heard the seniors get nothing.

there's benefits that payoff bigger than 0.5% for RUS, ever heard of inflation?

Nordic
12-10-2009, 11:03 AM
As my grandaddy would say, "Beats a jab in the eye with a sharp stick!" :D

Lady

Beats a sharp stick in the eye, indeed. Things could be worse, just have to weather the storm sometimes.

James48843
12-10-2009, 11:18 AM
How is this better than a flat 2% raise? I can see if you're in a high cost area but what about the RUS folks?:confused:

RUS folks will most likely receive a raise larger using locality numbers, than a flat raise would have been. They have not yet put firm numbers on anything yet, but the recommendations from the Federal Salary Council show that many areas had a smaller pay gap than the RUS grouping, which would indicate that RUS would get a higher raise than these cities would get:


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We'll just have to wait until all is said and done to find out which cities get how much of a raise. If you are in one of the cities here, you are likely to get LESS than the RUS raise. If you are in a locality other than here, and not in the RUS, your raise will most likely be larger.

fabijo
12-10-2009, 11:07 PM
I'll take it:)...I remember through the 8 miserable years with Reagan..We the Federal employee had either our January pay frozen every year, along with Step increases..plus we had the doom of impending furloughs or RIFS hangin over our heads all the time.:mad:

I've never gotten any step increases because the FAA's AF chose to go with pay bands. I've never gotten to a step one of the GS level I am supposedly equal to. But I'm glad to have a job and to be getting any kind of a raise. I just work alongside people who are making tons of cash and are telling me to buy a new car with "all my money." Little do they know the need for a budget.

James48843
12-10-2009, 11:21 PM
I've never gotten any step increases because the FAA's AF chose to go with pay bands. I've never gotten to a step one of the GS level I am supposedly equal to. But I'm glad to have a job and to be getting any kind of a raise. I just work alongside people who are making tons of cash and are telling me to buy a new car with "all my money." Little do they know the need for a budget.
Fabijo-

You need to bid on a job as an instructor in Ok City under the FG/GS pay system. Ask Buster. He'll tell ya they are still FG employees in PAACE. http://www.paace-okc.org/

Example job: http://jobs.faa.gov/announcement_detail.asp?vac_id=119118

Go to Ok City, spend a few years there, then transfer out after you've climbed the ladder for a bit.

fabijo
12-10-2009, 11:32 PM
I got myself a raise into the I band last year as a TSST out of Trenton, NJ. I had put a bid on a couple instructor positions a couple years ago, but it was when a ton of people applied for the position. I'm actually in OKC this week and next for a class. I'll check on the need for instructors.

James48843
12-10-2009, 11:48 PM
I got myself a raise into the I band last year as a TSST out of Trenton, NJ. I had put a bid on a couple instructor positions a couple years ago, but it was when a ton of people applied for the position. I'm actually in OKC this week and next for a class. I'll check on the need for instructors.

There are a bunch of bids right now- see http://jobs.faa.gov , and search for grade 13.


Announcement Number Job Title Duty Location Grade Close Date Area of Consideration AAC-LRE-10-AMA422-118670 (http://jobs.faa.gov/announcement_detail.asp?vac_id=118670) Electronics Engineer (Instructor) Oklahoma City, Oklahoma - Vacancies: Few FG-0855-13 12/10/2009 All Sources AAC-LRI-10-AMA420-119118 (http://jobs.faa.gov/announcement_detail.asp?vac_id=119118) Electronics Technician (Instructor) Oklahoma City, Oklahoma - Vacancies: Few FG-0856-13 12/11/2009 FAA-Wide AAC-LRI-10-AMA420-119122M (http://jobs.faa.gov/announcement_detail.asp?vac_id=119122) Electronics Engineer (Instructor) Oklahoma City, Oklahoma - Vacancies: Few FG-0855-13 12/13/2009 FAA-Wide AAC-LRI-10-AMA422-118546 (http://jobs.faa.gov/announcement_detail.asp?vac_id=118546) Electronics Technician (Instructor) Oklahoma City, Oklahoma - Vacancies: Few FG-0856-13 12/10/2009 FAA-Wide AAC-LRI-10-AMA422-118673M (http://jobs.faa.gov/announcement_detail.asp?vac_id=118673) Electronics Engineer (Instructor) Oklahoma City, Oklahoma - Vacancies: Few FG-0855-13 12/14/2009 FAA-Wide

James48843
12-10-2009, 11:55 PM
278 positions open in series 0855 at grades 13 and 14 nationwide on USAJOBS today.

alevin
12-11-2009, 10:49 AM
No wonder NSPS is getting canned soon. Private sector and unemployed are reading this now. They won't care about comparing apples to apples on why the income disparity when their unemployment runs out.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20091211/1afedpay11_st.art.htm?loc=interstitialskip

CountryBoy
12-11-2009, 11:15 AM
No wonder NSPS is getting canned soon. Private sector and unemployed are reading this now. They won't care about comparing apples to apples on why the income disparity when their unemployment runs out.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20091211/1afedpay11_st.art.htm?loc=interstitialskip

And it can't get canned quick enough, it's a pain in the butt and just reduces your high 3. More of your raise is put in the form of a bonus, rather than an actual increase in salary, which counts towards your high 3.

fabijo
12-16-2009, 06:40 PM
PAY RAISE IS A DONE DEAL- 1.5% Base, 0.5% towards locality.

The 2010 federal pay increase is comprised of a base increase of 1.5% and an average of 0.5% increase to locality. The locality increase overrides the President's request.

Details: http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=44201&dcn=todaysnews


I'm still waiting for the President to sign it. That's when it becomes a done deal. He may agree with that little paragraph in the 375 page bill, but what if he doesn't like the rest of the bill?

fabijo
12-16-2009, 06:52 PM
If you want to read the bill (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2010) or comment on it before Mr. President signs it, go here:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/pending-legislation/HR-3288

fabijo
12-16-2009, 08:03 PM
Here's a little breakdown, using $10,000 salary after Rest of U.S. locality of 13.86%. I will compare getting 1.5% increase on base plus .5% increase on locality vs. 2% increase on base with no increase in locality:

$10,000 = 2009 salary after locality of 13.86%
base pay = $8,783
1.5% increase + base = $8,914
2% increase + base = $8,958

$10,195 = 2010 salary after 1.5% increase plus new locality of 14.36%
$10,200 = 2010 salary after 2.0% increase plus existing locality of 13.86%

It's a small difference, but it looks like Congress was attempting some cost cutting compared to the original plan of a 2% across the board increase.

fabijo
12-17-2009, 01:25 PM
Okay, I guess now it really is official.


President Barack Obama today signed into law the omnibus appropriations bill which includes a 1.5 percent base pay increase for federal civilian employees and a 0.5 percent locality pay increase.

http://blogs.govexec.com/fedblog/2009/12/salary_increase_now_law.php

And here:


President Barack Obama has signed into law a $1.1 trillion bill that increases the budgets in many areas of the government by about 10 percent, including health, law enforcement and veterans' programs.

Obama signed the bill privately at the White House on Wednesday after receiving the bill from Congress on Sunday.

The bill lumps together six of the 12 annual appropriations bills for the 2010 budget year that began Oct. 1.

Most Republicans opposed the bill, citing runaway federal spending. They also pointed to an estimated $3.9 billion for more than 5,000 local projects sought by lawmakers from both parties.

Democrats said the spending would help the economy recover from the recession.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iGaF9dpVuGGA1xkfPQQCGklNdyQAD9CKMBF81