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hessian
03-14-2009, 04:03 PM
Not news we want to hear, but Military.com is pretty reliable, and
anyone really surprised? :mad:
http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=185279#&ESRC=retirees.nl (http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=185279#&ESRC=retirees.nl)

mick504
03-14-2009, 04:52 PM
OK I'll respond! There have been several terrorist attempts in the U.S. already that have been stopped before they happened. It's been a common practice to illicit citizens in the U.S. of islamist fundamentalists ideals to form groups for terror activity. There's no need to enter into the US as they are already here. It's just a matter of time. It's the calm before the storm....like a tornado! I do regret that day!

James48843
03-14-2009, 06:35 PM
Not news we want to hear, but Military.com is pretty reliable, and
anyone really surprised? :mad:
http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=185279#&ESRC=retirees.nl (http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=185279#&ESRC=retirees.nl)


"Christian Action Network" is the group that produced that film

Led by Martin Mawyer.
Other information on who they are:

From: http://www.well.com/gopher/Politics/activist.tools/how.to.win/J1

Christian Action Network
P.O. Box 606
Forest, VA 24551
(804) 385-5156
Led by former Jerry Falwell employee Martin Mawyer. Combats "the assault of
radical feminists and militant homosexual groups."

From: http://www.insidepolitics.org/Ch1.doc:

Chapter Three studies the rise of issue advocacy, using the case of the Christian Action Network.
In 1992, the Christian Action Network grew concerned about the liberal drift of social policy in the
United States, especially in regard to gay rights. Led by "pro-family" activist Martin
Mawyer, the group decided to take action against presidential candidate Bill
Cinton, who in its eyes favored “radical homosexual rights.” (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/#_edn1) The group spent $2 million on electioneering
activities devoted to defeating Clinton, none of which was disclosed because
the group considered its activities public education, not direct candidate
advocacy. Following an unsuccessful FEC lawsuit against the group, dozens of interest groups began running issue ads on
subjects such as the balanced budget, labor, term limits, abortion, and global
warming, all outside required federal disclosure laws. Today, nearly one-third of campaign ads are
aired by interest groups, not parties or candidates.



From: http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/enemies2.html

Martin Mawyer, President

Christian Action Network
POB 606
Forest, VA 24551
Phone: (804) 385-5156

Anti-Witchcraft, Anti-Earth Religion, wants one world religion of Christianity Martin Mawyer, a longtime associate of Jerry Falwell (http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/enemies.html#Falwell), first rose to prominence on the Christian right as editor of the [I]Moral Majority Report. After the Moral Majority disbanded, Mawyer founded the Christian Action Network (CAN) to fight "radical feminists and
militant homosexual groups," to foil the alleged plot to "put homosexual
textbooks into every school by the year 1999," to fend off "atheist and amoral secular forces," to promote censorship, and to seek the abolition of the National Endowment for the Arts. The NEA became Mawyer's special cause, and by 1993, when other
religious-right organizations had at least temporarily shifted their attention away from the arts, the Christian Action Network had almost made art-bashing a full-time career.

Among Mawyer's exploits was a guerilla exhibit, set up in and quickly ordered out of a cloakroom in the U.S. Capitol, intended to document allegedly obscene and blasphemous art created with NEA funds. It was Mawyer who sounded the alarm about the "Abject
Art" show at New York's Whitney Museum, and who made performance artist Ron Athey's 1994 Minneapolis appearance (indirectly supported with about $150 from a grant to the
Walker Art Center) a cause celebre. Mawyer's 70,000-piece mailing of a "Declaration of War" against the NEA over the Athey incident helped move Congress to slash the agency's budget, and paved the way for the anti-art rhetorical frenzies of the 104th Congress. While Mawyer's overtly political activities have threatened CAN's non-profit status and have precipitated an investigation by the Federal Election Commission, Mawyer is now on a roll, and has the satisfaction of knowing he has seriously damaged, if not doomed, the NEA. To receive examples of Mawyer's hilariously
strident but effective propaganda, ask to be placed on his mailing list. A newsletter, Family Alert, is available for a donation.


From "Little Green Footballs":


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32799_Hannitys_Scaremonger_of_the_Day

Hannity's Scaremonger of the Day

US News | Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:53:12 pm PST

Tonight on the Sean Hannity show, a featured guest was Martin Mawyer, discussing what he says is a network of Islamic terror cells in the United States, planning attacks with weapons of mass destruction.

Who is Martin Mawyer? SPLCenter.org: ‘A Mighty Army’ (http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=871).

Yes, I know, it’s the Southern Poverty Law Center again; but unfortunately, no one else seems to be keeping an eye on people like this.
Martin Mawyer, longtime editor of Jerry Falwell’s Moral Majority Report, founded the Christian Action Network (CAN) in 1990, a year after Falwell folded the original Moral Majority.
In his “dirty and dangerous” battle against “militant homosexual groups,” Mawyer has not held back. In 1997, after Ellen Degeneres came out as a lesbian on her TV sitcom, Mawyer accused her of “DUMPING HER FILTHY LESBIAN LIFESTYLE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF YOUR LIVING ROOM!! ... If we allow the tidal wave of gay and lesbian smut to continue to pour into our homes, it will utterly consume us in no time at all!”
In 1999, he asked the Federal Communications Commission to put an “HC [homosexual conduct] warning label” on TV programs with gay characters. The following year, CAN caused a national stir when TV stations refused to air its inflammatory ad attacking Hillary Clinton, who was then running for U.S. Senate.

Over ominous drumbeats, the narrator intoned: “It is rumored that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian. It is rumored that Hillary Clinton supported homosexual marriage. It is rumored that Hillary Clinton will leave her husband upon taking office. ... Sometimes, rumors are true. Shouldn’t you know the truth? For more information on traditional family values, please contact the Christian Action Network.”

More recently, CAN protested “Gay Days” at Disney World and other theme parks — events that Mawyer’s wife and CAN partner, Bonnie, says demonstrate “the true intent of these homosexuals: they are after our children!!”

A 2000 Mawyer mailing incorporated militia-like paranoia: “I am not ready to give this great nation over to one-world government extremists ... radical, disease-carrying homosexuals ... anti-family lesbian feminists ... or anti-American U.N. globalists!”

CAN activists today are familiar faces at Gay Days, videotaping “bad behavior.” In 2003, CAN turned its footage of “homosexual kissing, hugging and fondling” into a video tour of the Southeast, warning parents about the perils of Gay Days and warning that “homosexuals live in a pattern of sin and debauchery.”
If someone like this is now the spokesman for the “anti-jihad movement,” it is well and truly dead. And if you put any credibility in what he says, you’re being hoodwinked.

UPDATE at 2/16/09 10:07:28 pm:
An excerpt from the show:
Mawyer: They have weapons of mass destruction...
Hannity: What kind of weapons of mass destruction?
Mawyer: Well, in some cases I can’t uh, even tell you, Sean.
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I'm neither for em, or against em-

But I would say that you need to look to see who is behind the curtain before jumping to conclusions.

Being on "military.com" doesn't necessarily make it credible either. Behind military.com, you'll learn some interesting things. It's a corporation site of "Monster Worldwide". And anything that brings more customers to the site, is a financial incentive for Monster.

Like I say- I'm not for it, or against it, I'm just realistic about taking everything you see out there with a grain of salt.

If there were terrorist training camps within the U.S. borders, and there are videos on the web about them, I am quite sure that appropriate authorities will check them out in the proper, legal way.

hessian
03-15-2009, 07:04 PM
Hi James,
Wow, I really respect all the effort you took into looking into the background of the video - and the whole thing issue - REALLY!! I guess I kind'a took it at face value - which I will attempt to do better with in future! I do still wonder if some may out there, but your research does seem to indicate the magnitude is grossly exagerated.:blink:
Again, much thanks!!
VR

Show-me
03-16-2009, 06:43 AM
We have had terrorist training camps in America for decades. KKK, anti-abortion factions, many Christian religious factions, Waco, survivalist, etc.

The law enforcement folks know who they are and where they are. The rednecks like me know too. That is the famous American "checks and balances" system at work.

This is why you want to keep that right to keep and bear arms and ammunition.

Elgallo
03-16-2009, 01:32 PM
Very recently, last week to be exact, there was a very large explosion of what was believed to be a large pipe bomb of some sorts.

The emergency response to this was deemed odd by one or more of the first responders. It was the feeling that the location the "officials" identified as the scene of the detonation did not appear to have enough damage at the location the a bomb of that "audible a magnitude", some said they were lifted off couches. We still do not know how did this.

As an aside here the US Govt. is bringing foreign "friendly" Afghans and Iraqis into our area to teach them English, in fact there are a great number of them housed in the SAME general area of the mysterious explosion.

I am sure these folks are well vetted, but are they???? Vetting will not show true intent regardless of how rigorous it is.