Problem Accessing MB Today

[turbo23dog]

Today during 11:50-12:00 I could not access the board (~4 tries). Got an error message saying there was an error reaching the server.

I know Poolman has addressed board performance in his thread but I figured it might be better to start a new thread rather than crap up his.

[poolman]

Today during 11:50-12:00 I could not access the board (~4 tries). Got an error message saying there was an error reaching the server.

I know Poolman has addressed board performance in his thread but I figured it might be better to start a new thread rather than crap up his.


Thanks turbo23dog,

I tried at 11:45 to post my move 6 times with the same error and said screw it.

I'm not worrying about it anymore. :nuts:

[poolman]

Thanks turbo23dog,

I tried at 11:45 to post my move 6 times with the same error and said screw it.

I'm not worrying about it anymore. :nuts:

It's Dog Slow right Now...:mad:

[poolman]

I'm sure nobody is having any problems. :laugh:

[XL-entLady]

I'm having a slow-down problem right now as well.

Lady

[wv-girl]

I have had problems since around 11:45. Keeps getting error msg also.

[CountryBoy]

I know me and I'm sure others are not accessing the board from 11:30 to 12:15 or so at Poolman's request, to allow those making a move having a better chance at accessing the MB. :confused:

CB

[budnipper1]

I know me and I'm sure others are not accessing the board from 11:30 to 12:15 or so at Poolman's request, to allow those making a move having a better chance at accessing the MB. :confused: CB

Maybe it's not only posting during that time period that's overloading the server. Simply browsing or refreshing the threads probably has as much impact as posting, except for loading larger images or charts. I know I'm guilty of trying to find any new info during that time, just as I do the rest of the day. :o

[CountryBoy]

Yep Bud,

You're probably right and I'm just as guilty of that as the next guy.

CB

[poolman]

Why was the MB Dead Slow at 3:20 this afternoon ?


For The Record. I noticed this slowdown from the on-set of adding the

extra stats. :cool:

[FUTURESTRADER]

I think I noticed it as well at the on-set of the stats, but the continuous refereshing must also play a part, of which I too am guilty. Being logged on to the autotracker and refreshing there as well must make an impact, all a draw on the same server? Which aspect is the worst offender?

[XL-entLady]

I think I noticed it as well at the on-set of the stats, but the continuous refereshing must also play a part, of which I too am guilty. Being logged on to the autotracker and refreshing there as well must make an impact, all a draw on the same server? Which aspect is the worst offender?
And I'm always refreshing both the forums and the IFT of the Day page between 11:45 and noon ET. Maybe all that refreshing and the stats are creating the perfect storm? :confused:

Lady

[tsptalk]

Thanks. Your feedback is helpful.

The stats page is causing a slight slow down to the main because of the gathering of data, but it should not affect the other threads unless it is sucking up other resources, which I guess is possible. I will explore that.

The refreshing is probably causing a little slowdown as well as it adds strain to the system, but that just means we need more horse power here. I'll get on it.

In the meantime, I will turn off the stats and see if tomorrow's peak time is any better.

[poolman]

Thanks. Your feedback is helpful.

The stats page is causing a slight slow down to the main because of the gathering of data, but it should not affect the other threads unless it is sucking up other resources, which I guess is possible. I will explore that.

The refreshing is probably causing a little slowdown as well as it adds strain to the system, but that just means we need more horse power here. I'll get on it.

In the meantime, I will turn off the stats and see if tomorrow's peak time is any better.

Thanks Tom....


http://rapidshare.com/files/193376590/Thanks.jpg

[nnuut]

more ram!! 5638 5637

[KevinD]

Dedicated server?

[budnipper1]

more ram!!
5641

:nuts: GET'UM RAMBO!!! :D

[tsptalk]

Dedicated server?
Yes. We've had one for a couple of years.

[nnuut]

T3 :rolleyes: 5645

[tsptalk]

How'd we do today? Seems pretty good right now (11:55 AM ET).

[Minnow]

seems much better, thanks.

[FUTURESTRADER]

no problem today, Tom

[turbo23dog]

Seems better to me as well. Then of course we don't have a day when everyone's trying to post a last minute move.

Did I notice that you removed the stats?

[XL-entLady]

Seems better to me as well. Then of course we don't have a day when everyone's trying to post a last minute move.

Did I notice that you removed the stats?
I miss the stats. They were very handy. But it does seem to be faster today .... because they're not here? :worried:

Lady

[CountryBoy]

I miss the stats. They were very handy. But it does seem to be faster today .... because they're not here? :worried:

Lady


I miss the stats also.

CB

[tsptalk]

Did I notice that you removed the stats?
Yes, I wanted to see if it made a difference, and it seems we are doing much better today.

If I can figure out a way to automatically turn them off around 11:30 AM ET, and back on after 12 noon ET, that would be ideal.

[CountryBoy]

Yes, I wanted to see if it made a difference, and it seems we are doing much better today.

If I can figure out a way to automatically turn them off around 11:30 AM ET, and back on after 12 noon ET, that would be ideal.

That would be nice Tom, but of course priority has to be IFT's first.

Good Luck,
CB

[poolman]

The System Today has been very Fast. Just like Normal. :)

[KevinD]

I've been having trouble accessing the board the last couple of minutes. This is the error message I get.

Fatal error: Can't use function return value in write context in /usr/www/virtual/www.tsptalk.com/mb/global.php(614) : eval()'d code on line 37

[tsptalk]

I've been having trouble accessing the board the last couple of minutes. This is the error message I get.

Fatal error: Can't use function return value in write context in /usr/www/virtual/www.tsptalk.com/mb/global.php(614) : eval()'d code on line 37
That's me playing with the code to try to turn the stats off from 11:30 to 12 noon each day. If my code has an error, you will see that junk.

Just try again in like 15 or 30 seconds as I will put the good code back as soon as I see that my update has the error.

[KevinD]

Cool.

[tsptalk]

In the meantime, I will turn off the stats and see if tomorrow's peak time is any better.
The stats were disbaled Wednesday morning and the reports from our hosting company showed that there was no system stress between 11:30 AM and 12 noon ET. We all seemed to agree that things went fine.

On Thursday the stats will be enabled again and the tests will be rerun. I will keep you posted.

Please go about your normal routine. :)

Thanks

[tsptalk]

How are we doing today? The main page will always be a little slower because of the compilation of the stats, so I am more interested in how quickly the forum, threads and post pages are being processed. Thanks

[poolman]

The MB worked very well IMO today Tom. :)

[tsptalk]

That puts us in an interesting position. We've had good days (with stats and without) and bad days since the database table optimization was completed, and no other changes have been made.

We'll just have to keep monitoring, and in the meantime, maybe I will add memory if we are not at the current server's capicity yet.

[XL-entLady]

Thanks, Tom! FWIW, I'm glad that the stats are back. Missed 'em.

Lady

[James48843]

The slowness of the message board is directly an effect of the slowdown in the economy.

We're in a TSPTALK recession.

Don't worry, though.

The Congress is working on a TSP page credit un-sticking option that should fix everything soon. As soon as we have several thousand message board users who are laid off.

:-)

[XL-entLady]

We're in a TSPTALK recession. ...The Congress is working on a TSP page credit un-sticking option that should fix everything soon.

:laugh:

[nnuut]

Thanks I didn't know that --------- IFT 100% TSPT Fund COB today!! 5682

[tsptalk]

The slowness of the message board is directly an effect of the slowdown in the economy.

We're in a TSPTALK recession.

Don't worry, though.

The Congress is working on a TSP page credit un-sticking option that should fix everything soon. As soon as we have several thousand message board users who are laid off.

:-)
We need a bailout. More spending!

[350zCommTech]

Very slow right now.

[tsptalk]

Thanks. That's way past peak. I wonder if the market action is kicking up traffic?

[350zCommTech]

Tom,

she's starting to slow down. We need more power.

Perhaps your other site is stealing the bandwidth?:D

[tsptalk]

Tom,

she's starting to slow down. We need more power.

Perhaps your other site is stealing the bandwidth?:D
I was worried that it might be all of the videos we post, but after a little research, that shouldn't be a problem, as long as the videos are coming from another source (youtube, etc.). The other site is still just a flea on the tail of an elephant, with TSP Talk being the elephant. :)

[350zCommTech]

I was worried that it might be all of the videos we post, but after a little research, that shouldn't be a problem, as long as the videos are coming from another source (youtube, etc.). The other site is still just a flea on the tail of an elephant, with TSP Talk being the elephant. :)

Thanks Tom.

[ATCJeff]

I think the resource hog is the stat page. It seems like the problems started when that page appeared.

[tsptalk]

I think you may be right. But we ran a test 2 days in a row. One with stats disabled. The next with stats enabled, and there were no reported problems either day (and we asked). But now we get these problems here and there, sometimes at odd times.

I may just have to see about beefing up if the server hasn't already reached capacity. That may be the only answer.

[turbo23dog]

I noticed today's slowdown too. Saw it around 11:30 - 11:45 timeframe. From my highly scientic measurements, it was not quite as bad as when we started this thread, but it was noticable.

[ATCJeff]

I think you may be right. But we ran a test 2 days in a row. One with stats disabled. The next with stats enabled, and there were no reported problems either day (and we asked). But now we get these problems here and there, sometimes at odd times.

I may just have to see about beefing up if the server hasn't already reached capacity. That may be the only answer.

Could it be some type of app still running in the background compiling the stats. Constantly polling the site (msg's/threads/members) looking for results!

My 2 cents....

[tsptalk]

I will try to remember to turn off the stats again from 11 AM ET to noon. And we'll see how that goes. In the meantime, I will look into upgrade possibilities.

[nasa1974]

Maybe it is the FRTIB has inserted a spy probe. :rolleyes:

[tsptalk]

Maybe it is the FRTIB has inserted a spy probe. :rolleyes:
That explains it! :)

Stats have just been disabled (11 AM ET). Let me know if you experience any unusual slowdowns or if it seems OK, during the next hour.

I will enable the stats again after the 12 noon transfer deadline.

[tsptalk]

It's been flying smoothly for me.

[budnipper1]

All systems green in rednecksville...over?

5719

[350zCommTech]

No problems here.

[tsptalk]

Cool, thanks! I'll activate the stats again, and we will see how things go tomorrow with them running.

Remember, the main forum page will take an extra 2 or 3 seconds to load while the stats are activated. I'm more interested in how quickily the other pages (threads and posts) are loading.

Thanks again!

[CountryBoy]

Seemed to run fine all day long from here.

[tsptalk]

Stats are on as we enter the peak hour. Please let me know if things slow down for you. thansk.

[350zCommTech]

A tad slow while looking at talk threads.

And a little slow uploading a chart.

[tsptalk]

I'm running a few database maintenance scripts this afternoon so you might experience some slowdown for a little while.

[CountryBoy]

Tom,

I was unable to access the MB from about 11:30 to just now. I kept getting this message.

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

Most likely causes:
You are not connected to the Internet.
The website is encountering problems.
There might be a typing error in the address.

What you can try:
Check your Internet connection. Try visiting another website to make sure you are connected.

Retype the address.

Go back to the previous page.

More information

This problem can be caused by a variety of issues, including:

Internet connectivity has been lost.
The website is temporarily unavailable.
The Domain Name Server (DNS) is not reachable.
The Domain Name Server (DNS) does not have a listing for the website's domain.
If this is an HTTPS (secure) address, click tools, click Internet Options, click Advanced, and check to be sure the SSL and TLS protocols are enabled under the security section.


I was able to get to the autotracker, but that was all. Just a heads up, like I was going to make a move or something. But I do have my 2 IFT's left, so who knows, lightening could strike. :laugh:

CB

[350zCommTech]

I could not access the message board prior to the deadline. The home page worked OK.

Kept getting this message:


Network Error (tcp_error)

A communication error occurred: "" The Web Server may be down, too busy, or experiencing other problems preventing it from responding to requests. You may wish to try again at a later time.
For assistance, contact your network support team.

[FUTURESTRADER]

ditto

[turbo23dog]

Ditto

The board was slower and slower from 11:10 to ~11:35, then unreachable till 12:10.

[tsptalk]

Thanks! I will report it and follow up on the upgrade.

[wv-girl]

I could not access the message board prior to the deadline. The home page worked OK.

Kept getting this message:

Me three.

[Viva_La_Migra]

Me three.
Y yo tambien.

[budnipper1]

Y yo tambien.

Et tu, Viva La Migra??:confused: :laugh:



5809
~ VI-Vaaa VI-AGRA ~ !!! :D

[tsptalk]

Thanks! I will report it and follow up on the upgrade.
Here is the reponse I received. Let's see how it goes Wednesday morning.
Thanks!...


We have applied some tweak on the server.

Please let us know if you see any diff.

If these tweaks fails than we would look in to the upgrade options and i will forward this ticket to the sales.

Please advise.

[350zCommTech]

Had one clitch 5 mins ago.

[CountryBoy]

Tom,

I kept either getting bounced out or disconnected from about 11:45 to now 12:22, but it probably kept me from making a stupid move. :D

CB

[poolman]

Tom,

I kept either getting bounced out or disconnected from about 11:45 to now 12:22, but it probably kept me from making a stupid move. :D

CB

Same here CountryBoy,

It started with them stats...:cool:

[CountryBoy]

Same here CountryBoy,

It started with them stats...:cool:

Yeah poolman,

Thats when it did seem to start, but I really like the part of the stats that show the latest posts, cause it saves time looking for what's the latest thing on the board. Maybe just reduce the amount of stats if nothing else can be worked out.

GL Tom. :D

CB

[JTH]

Just a suggestion, but some folks may want to check their connection speed during those times. The bottleneck could be on your end, but you may not know it, unless you have a sample of connection speeds matched up with certian times.

[CountryBoy]

Just a suggestion, but some folks may want to check their connection speed during those times. The bottleneck could be on your end, but you may not know it, unless you have a sample of connection speeds matched up with certian times.

I've never checked my connection speeds, I just base it on how quick I can get in and out of other sites.

CB

[350zCommTech]

Tom,

I'm sensing a little disturbance in the force (MB).

Are the stats on?

[tsptalk]

Big slowdown at 9:40, I turned off the stats and have techs watching the specs.

[wv-girl]

Trouble getting in to mb. 11:54 - 11:56am Same error msg as before.

[wv-girl]

Same error msg. cannot display website page. Started at 11:54 am

[wv-girl]

Thank you for posting! You will now be taken to your post. If you opted to post a poll, you will now be allowed to do so.
Click here if your browser does not automatically redirect you. (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?t=6784&goto=newpost)

Been trying to access mb and also post since 11:54 am. time now is 12:01

[poolman]

Same error msg. cannot display website page. Started at 11:54 am


Ditto... Everything else I look at is fine. MB unobtainable at times.

[tsptalk]

Thanks everyone. One of the techs verified that it is the stats creating the slowdown. When stats are running between 11:30 AM and 12:00 noon, the cpu is is being pushed to the max because of the massive database access, and the stats are a big part of that. Once we turned off the stats, the stress dropped down precipitously.

I am going to keep the stats off during peak times until we get the upgrade completed.

[XL-entLady]

Thanks, Tom, for being so proactive to keep looking for the slow-down problem. And thanks for pursuing the upgrade too. I would have missed having the stats if we'd had to dump the idea entirely. I find the stats to be very handy. :)

Lady

[tsptalk]

While we work on it, I made sme adjustments to the stats box; taking out a few of the stats, and cutting it down to the last 7 days instead of 30. That should speed it up a little bit.

[350zCommTech]

It's starting to slow down. Can you shut off the stats now?

[poolman]

Hey Tom,

I think it's time to shut the Stat's Off. Board is getting very slow.

Maybe we should make this thread a Sticky so it's easier to access and find. :)

[tsptalk]

Stats off

[Frixxxx]

Wow, I couldn't even post my issue and as soon as you posted "stats off"...TA-DA....no more hang:nuts:

[tsptalk]

Yup, it seems obvious that the stats are the culprit. The question is, do we want them on at all (off-peak) while we wait for the potential upgrade?

If the upgrade is too expensive, meaning the current server can not be upgraded and I'd have to move to a more expensive server, I will likely just keep turning the stats on and off for now, or abandon them altogether. Things run too smoothly without them to double my server costs.

Turning the stats back on (12:20 PM ET).

[poolman]

Yup, it seems obvious that the stats are the culprit. The question is, do we want them on at all (off-peak) while we wait for the potential upgrade?

If the upgrade is too expensive, meaning the current server can not be upgraded and I'd have to move to a more expensive server, I will likely just keep turning the stats on and off for now, or abandon them altogether. Things run too smoothly without them to double my server costs.

Turning the stats back on (12:20 PM ET).

Personally I don't use the stats. I'd be willing to pitch in for the upgrade if

majority wants to. :)

[JTH]

Even I noticed a substancial increase in the forum this morning.

I don't use the stats at all, I just use the "new post" button. It's not because I don't like the stats, it's because I'm accustomed to and already been programed with the old school forum. Perhaps the newer members use it much more.

[XL-entLady]

Yup, it seems obvious that the stats are the culprit. The question is, do we want them on at all (off-peak) while we wait for the potential upgrade?

If the upgrade is too expensive, meaning the current server can not be upgraded and I'd have to move to a more expensive server, I will likely just keep turning the stats on and off for now, or abandon them altogether. Things run too smoothly without them to double my server costs.

Turning the stats back on (12:20 PM ET).
The stats are handy, and I do use them. But if keeping them means having to upgrade to a more expensive server, then I vote to ditch'em. But that's just one vote.

Lady

[Frixxxx]

The stats are handy, and I do use them. But if keeping them means having to upgrade to a more expensive server, then I vote to ditch'em. But that's just one vote.

Lady
One more...makes two votes! ~Ditch'em

[350zCommTech]

One more...makes two votes! ~Ditch'em

I concur.

[Minnow]

Four votes for the axe.

[tsptalk]

OK, I'll disable them and see what kind of reaction we get.

Thanks!

[tsptalk]

If the upgrade is too expensive, meaning the current server can not be upgraded and I'd have to move to a more expensive server, I will likely just keep turning the stats on and off for now, or abandon them altogether. Things run too smoothly without them to double my server costs.
I think I am going to have to pass on their recommendation. This would more than double our current monthy server costs. Looks like the stats are out. :sick:


...it is recommended that you get a second server to separate the databases from the web content. I can offer you the following database server:

P4 D 3.0Ghz
2 Gig Ram
2 x 73Gb SAS Raid 1
$49 Set up
$229 monthly

[tsptalk]

I played around with the stats program, avoiding some of the individual member statistics. If this limited number of stats, which tells members where some of the new discussions are taking place, does not slow things down, perhaps we can keep them running. We'll find out Monday morning.

Let me know. Thanks

[tsptalk]

I haven't noticed any problems during peak time with the limited thread and post stats. Did anyone have probles the last couple of mornings? Thanks

[XL-entLady]

I haven't noticed any problems during peak time with the limited thread and post stats. Did anyone have problems the last couple of mornings? Thanks
I haven't noticed any decrease in speed at all during peak times since you pared down the stats. Good idea.:)

Lady

[KevinD]

Or could it be the updated version of vBulletin?

[tsptalk]

Or could it be the updated version of vBulletin?
I don't believe it is, but I guess anything is possible. The new stats are not counting posts or finding members. Just looking for the latest data. faster database selections.

[Frixxxx]

I don't believe it is, but I guess anything is possible. The new stats are not counting posts or finding members. Just looking for the latest data. faster database selections.
Tom,

No degradation at all. I set up a response file to your site and it averaged 2 second turn-arounds. I think you might have nailed this one.:cool:

[350zCommTech]

Seems to be kinda slow this morning.

[James48843]

everything seems fine to me.

[tsptalk]

Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. There may have been a maintenance script running, but I think we are OK now. Keep me posted if becomes sluggish again and I'll check to see if there is anything running in the background.

[poolman]

The Board has been slow for me today. I'm also getting this from time to time.

Database error.


http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/./image.php?type=dberrorDatabase errorThe database has encountered a problem.Please try the following:

Load the page again by clicking the Refresh (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/#) button in your web browser.
Open the www.tsptalk.com (http://www.tsptalk.com/) home page, then try to open another page.
Click the Back (javascript:history.back(1)) button to try another link.
The www.tsptalk.com forum technical staff have been notified of the error, though you may contact them (support@tsptalk.com) if the problem persists.
We apologise for any inconvenience.
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/./image.php?type=dberrorDatabase errorThe database has encountered a problem.Please try the following:

Load the page again by clicking the Refresh (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/#) button in your web browser.
Open the www.tsptalk.com (http://www.tsptalk.com/) home page, then try to open another page.
Click the Back (javascript:history.back(1)) button to try another link.
The www.tsptalk.com forum technical staff have been notified of the error, though you may contact them (support@tsptalk.com) if the problem persists.
We apologise for any inconvenience.

[tsptalk]

Thanks. The techs are working on it. There may be a process running that needs to be stopped.

[nnuut]

Tom I just had the Database Error when trying to go out of User CP to New Posts.:o

[tsptalk]

I was running a script yesterday that updates the "similar threads" links at the bottom of a page, and it seems to be stuck. It may still be running so we're trying to kill it.

[JTH]

same deal as poolman.
8133

[nnuut]

It seems to be zipping along now!!!:D

[350zCommTech]

Was unusable up until a few mins ago.

[poolman]

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage


What you can try:

Diagnose Connection Problems

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/down.png (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/#) More information (http://javascript<b></b>:expandCollapse('infoBlockID', true);)

[350zCommTech]

Very slow at times or completely inaccessible.

[poolman]

Database errorThe database has encountered a problem.Please try the following:

Load the page again by clicking the Refresh (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/#) button in your web browser.
Open the www.tsptalk.com (http://www.tsptalk.com/) home page, then try to open another page.
Click the Back (http://javascript<b></b>:history.back(1)) button to try another link.
The www.tsptalk.com (http://www.tsptalk.com) forum technical staff have been notified of the error, though you may contact them (support@tsptalk.com) if the problem persists.
We apologise for any inconvenience

[poolman]

Go to the first post on this thread. This problem started 1 year ago. Look at the date.

I wonder if this has any relevance ?

Something is running that is slowing down this particular Board.

[poolman]

Let me try to be clearer on what I for see.

Go back to the first post in this thread. This problem started happening 1 year ago. I don't know what the particulars are with the operation of this site but it is either on Tom's end or the services that Tom uses to run this site.

It is obvious that something is running that is Hogging up major bandwidth or Hogging up Tom's or his Partner's system's.

[tsptalk]

Thanks folks!

We're running some table repairs and optimization scripts to see if it will help. Thanks for your patience.

[tsptalk]

Looks like that did help. I was running some scripts this weekend and it seemed to mess with some of our database tables. We "should" be good to go.

Sorry about the hassle and inconvenience.

[poolman]

Looks like that did help. I was running some scripts this weekend and it seemed to mess with some of our database tables. We "should" be good to go.

Sorry about the hassle and inconvenience.

Thanks Tom !:)

[tsptalk]

I have noticed the slowdown this morning and will run some optimiztaion scripts.

Thanks for your patience!

[Frixxxx]

A lot of slow and Database busy messages today from SOCAL!:suspicious:

[CapeChem]

yea...ditto

[nnuut]

Seems OK now!!:D

[tsptalk]

Thanks. I have been working on it. For some reason there are some processes that get run multiple times and it sucks the board's resources.

I am considering an upgrade to the software, which I already purchased, but the new version is such a big change that I am worried that things will look too different for members. Plus, because of the massive changes, I've been waiting to give them time to get the bugs out.

[Frixxxx]

Just pretend you are Congress and Rahm them changes through.....:laugh:

[tsptalk]

Just pretend you are Congress and Rahm them changes through.....:laugh:
While upgrading the software, I will slip in a message board tax. :D

[WorkFE]

While upgrading the software, I will slip in a message board tax. :D

Atleast your honest and Transparent about it:nuts:

[Buster]

Site acting up for the last couple of days...Slow and locks up:confused:

[XL-entLady]

Site acting up for the last couple of days...Slow and locks up:confused:
Those d***ed Progressives did it! :nuts:;)

[JTH]

Site acting up for the last couple of days...Slow and locks up:confused:


Those d***ed Progressives did it! :nuts:;)


Copy, and not just the tracker today but the forum too, for about 10-15 minutes I was timing out. Of couse I was probably compunding the problem by refreshing... Sry Tom :embarrest:

[XL-entLady]

Yeah, in all seriousness, I've had the MB time out on me a few times over the last couple of days too.

[tsptalk]

The autotracker database seems to bog down the whole site as we approach the IFT deadline and traffic builds.

I will take a look under the hood.

If anyone had a problem getting an IFT processed, send me a PM.

Thanks!

[Show-me]

Political forum, Republican 401k thread I see no post, quote, multi quote, or other functions.

[Show-me]

Actually I have no access to the entire political forum. Coincidence? :D:rolleyes:

[KevinD]

The autotracker database seems to bog down the whole site as we approach the IFT deadline and traffic builds.

I will take a look under the hood.

If anyone had a problem getting an IFT processed, send me a PM.

Thanks!

A FRTIB denial of service attack? :blink: :laugh:

[CountryBoy]

Actually I have no access to the entire political forum. Coincidence? :D:rolleyes:

Same here but the Republican 401k thread was here earlier this morning, but gone now.

[burrocrat]

Actually I have no access to the entire political forum. Coincidence? :D:rolleyes:

whew, i thought it was just me, and i've been being careful...

maybe it's like in elementary school - when 1 kid fails the standardized test nobody gets milk and cookies.

or maybe the babysitters are just too overworked, and quit watching that misbehaving bunch until the 'responsible adults' get things figured out.

i've never been a crack addict, but i have an idea how one feels i think, can we please have the political forums back?

please, please, please.

[tsptalk]

I am rethinking the political forum situation.

[JTH]

I am rethinking the political forum situation.

Tom, you know my dad manages a gun forum and has the same problems where most everyone is conservative with a small handful of sassy liberals in the mix. Believe it or not, I never wanted a political forum in the first place because I know what it brings out.

Having said that, I do at times feel this place is a little too meek and and we could use some thicker skin around here. I would like to see you keep the political thread, with the understanding it should be kept respectful & factual at all times.

To help midigate things, I think we should add a bashing/venting thread where members can vent with each other freely, but only bash those who have chosen to enter this thread. No bashing people who choose not to enter this thread. It's not a new concept, and I have seen it work on another forum.

[nnuut]

HUMMMM? Bashing Thread:rolleyes: 9296 9297 9298

[CountryBoy]

I seen the same thing in some sports threads. It's enter at your own risk and nothing leaves the room. JTH check your PM.

[350zCommTech]

MB crapped out 10 mins before the deadline.

[JTH]

MB crapped out 10 mins before the deadline.

Really?

9302

[nnuut]

Up and running, fast as lightening !!!! -----
An ATTABOY to Tom!! 9303

[XL-entLady]

+1 with a great big huge thank you! :)

[Frixxxx]

WOW, see how much faster things run when Tom deletes all the negativity out of the political threads?:laugh:

Fastest I've seen this run!

[JTH]

I've been meaning to ask Tom if there is some other tracker-type program that can handle these request. Perhaps the excel was never meant to handle this type of multi-tasking.

[tsptalk]

It was probably me who caused the problem. :embarrest: When the site was running sluggishly earlier, I tried to run some scripts to clean things up and the next thing you know, the site is down.

I am trying to come up with a plan to get by this bottle neck. We seem to have plenty of processing power, but once we get close to the deadline and everyone is checking the autotracker, things get a little too heavy for the servers. I may end up moving the autotracker to another domain name like tsptalk.net or something.

[tsptalk]

I've been meaning to ask Tom if there is some other tracker-type program that can handle these request. Perhaps the excel was never meant to handle this type of multi-tasking.
We actually don't use excel. Mostly PHP with a MySQL database, and the autotracker database is on its own server.

[dannyboy]

I am not too concerned about getting another t-shirt to shove in some dresser drawer, the new dresser drawer that I bought just to hold all the crappy t-shirts that I've bought; ie, sports, concerts(the Who, the Stones,etc., vacations, etc. I do need to work at off-site buildings on some days, and the out-lying buildings don't have any net hookups, (security). :o
DB












Quote:
Originally Posted by FireWeatherMet http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?p=270326#post270326)
If you make your move at 1159...all you need to do is take another 60-90 seconds to make your TSPTalk input. But given unexpected phone call etc...a change to 1215-1220 should be good....in my opinion.

That is the intent - 10 minutes should be plenty of time, but lately people have been having problems getting their IFT into the tracker at that time because of system issues. The new deadline just provides a buffer, but you are right, some may procrastinate because of the buffer causing more problems.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FireWeatherMet http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?p=270326#post270326)
I like to think that all of us here are a lot more interested in tracking our true performance then trying to get a free t-shirt...and that most if not all of us would adhere to the honor system.

You'd be surprised. It's more of an ego thing than getting a T-shirt. Rarely has anyone ever asked me to change their IFT when the change hurts their return. :)

I recommend that people still use the excel spreadsheets (http://www.tsptalk.com/utilities.html) to track their actual returns. That's what is important. The AutoTracker is really just a game and a tool to help others watch what others are doing.

Thanks for the input folks!

[Buster]

Tom, you know my dad manages a gun forum and has the same problems where most everyone is conservative with a small handful of sassy liberals in the mix. Believe it or not, I never wanted a political forum in the first place because I know what it brings out.

Having said that, I do at times feel this place is a little too meek and and we could use some thicker skin around here. I would like to see you keep the political thread, with the understanding it should be kept respectful & factual at all times.

To help midigate things, I think we should add a bashing/venting thread where members can vent with each other freely, but only bash those who have chosen to enter this thread. No bashing people who choose not to enter this thread. It's not a new concept, and I have seen it work on another forum.Great idea JTH..http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/blackstangs281/Avatars/not_happy.gif

[350zCommTech]

Tom,

I'm starting to see a little bit of a slow down here and there. I have an idea. How about shutting down all none market talks starting at 30 mins to the deadline.

Anybody else thinks this would help?

[tsptalk]

Tom,

I'm starting to see a little bit of a slow down here and there. I have an idea. How about shutting down all none market talks starting at 30 mins to the deadline.

Anybody else thinks this would help?
That could help, but it would be tough to do. I still have an open support ticket with the hosting tech team to keep an eye on what is happening.

This board is big, but there are some that are so much bigger. I am wondering what they do to keep things running smoothly. We have two servers and I can't imagine it is not enough for our modest board activity. The one thing we have that is different than most boards, is that 1 to 2 hour high traffic peak time.

[350zCommTech]

That could help, but it would be tough to do. I still have an open support ticket with the hosting tech team to keep an eye on what is happening.

This board is big, but there are some that are so much bigger. I am wondering what they do to keep things running smoothly. We have two servers and I can't imagine it is not enough for our modest board activity. The one thing we have that is different than most boards, is that 1 to 2 hour high traffic peak time.

What about disabling avatars for that time period? I've seen that done at Markettickerforum.

[Intrepid_Timer]

Looks like the autotracker results page has hiccups this evening..............:nuts:

[Buster]

Board is now 24 hours in the rears..all postings since yesterday noon are missing..

[tsptalk]

They're back. Crazy stuff happening.

[nnuut]

You're kinda like David Copperfield, Make it disappear then reappear! Good work again! 9407

[hessian]

Tom,

I'm starting to see a little bit of a slow down here and there. I have an idea. How about shutting down all none market talks starting at 30 mins to the deadline.

Anybody else thinks this would help?

I also found a big slow down here as above, today, in the same timeframe until about 1225.
I noticed the "slow down" today was dramatic - mostly in the "Member Acct. Talk" Forum - such that I got dropped off many times, although trying maybe 20 times.
Just a thought as another possible solution:
I counted the members logged-in (~40) and comparing this to the number viewing the "Member Acct. Talk" Forum alone and there were (~95) simultaneously viewing - so there was almost always about double the number of members-to-lurkers.
There were about half as many viewing other Forum threads.

Just for consideration - perhaps exclude "lurkers" - folks not logged-in or non-members, in this timeframe. Surely we don't want to discourage folks not logged-in or non-members, but prohibiting them in this timeframe might conversely encourage folks to become members, or at least log-in.
Just a thought!
VR ;)

[tsptalk]

There was a server problem this morning that caused the whole site to go down for a while. I hope that is what is was and not an ongoing problem. I would not think that the number of members and lurker is an issue. This is a medium size board and we really should have the resources to handle it. But maybe not. I will keep watching. I am also watching to see if that stats box is causing a slowdown.

I really appreciate you keeping up to date on the problems.

[nnuut]

Tom does the number of saved PMs load it up a bit? I think the limit is 700 now, I know I could do with much less than that.

[tsptalk]

Can you rephrase that please. I'm not sure I understand the question. thanks

[XL-entLady]

Tom does the number of saved PMs load it up a bit? I think the limit is 700 now, I know I could do with much less than that.


Can you rephrase that please. I'm not sure I understand the question. thanks
Far be it from me to put words in Norm's mouth ;) but I think he means the number of private messages that the MB allows us to store. I think I can have several hundred Inbox and Outbox messages saved before I get a notification that my PM stuff is full and I need to delete/move some.

And like nnuut, I probably don't need to keep that many. I just don't bother to clean out my PMs because I don't have to do it often. So if we could only have, say, half as many PM messages stored before our boxes said they were full? Would that help the system any?

How'd I do, Norm? :cheesy:

[grandma]

MY question is - How did you get the 700 number? My mailbox says 200 allowed....

[XL-entLady]

MY question is - How did you get the 700 number? My mailbox says 200 allowed....
Maybe it's a Mod thing because we end up having to send so many PMs in the "job"?

My PM notifications stuff says, "You have 453 messages stored, of a total 700 allowed."

On another subject do you crochet by any chance? :o

[tsptalk]

Tom does the number of saved PMs load it up a bit? I think the limit is 700 now, I know I could do with much less than that.
Oh, I get it. That is likely taking up disk space is all. It's probably not causing any performance issues.

[tsptalk]

I am going to turn off the stats portion of the site (that top box with the last 10 posts, etc.) to see if things speed at all.

[Frixxxx]

Maybe it's a Mod thing because we end up having to send so many PMs in the "job"?

My PM notifications stuff says, "You have 453 messages stored, of a total 700 allowed."

On another subject do you crochet by any chance? :o
453?

You keep that many?:blink:

[nnuut]

Far be it from me to put words in Norm's mouth ;) but I think he means the number of private messages that the MB allows us to store. I think I can have several hundred Inbox and Outbox messages saved before I get a notification that my PM stuff is full and I need to delete/move some.

And like nnuut, I probably don't need to keep that many. I just don't bother to clean out my PMs because I don't have to do it often. So if we could only have, say, half as many PM messages stored before our boxes said they were full? Would that help the system any?

How'd I do, Norm? :cheesy:
EXACTLY well said!! It was to simple for a programer~!!!!:laugh:

[XL-entLady]

453?

You keep that many?:blink:
What can I say? :o I love to reread messages from friends when I get bored or need a boost. :embarrest:

It couldn't be that I won't shut up long enough to delete old message! Nah. That couldn't be it!;)

[nnuut]

I had over 500 but deleted all but 45 yesterday! Let by gones be by gones.:)

[coolhand]

I am going to turn off the stats portion of the site (that top box with the last 10 posts, etc.) to see if things speed at all.

It's screaming now. I can't remember the last time it loaded this quick!

Anyone else notice the same thing?

[XL-entLady]

It's screaming now. I can't remember the last time it loaded this quick!

Anyone else notice the same thing?
Same here! :cool:

[tsptalk]

It's screaming now. I can't remember the last time it loaded this quick!

Anyone else notice the same thing?
This is obviously not the peak time for the board, but it is running fast. I kind of got used to those stats and links to the last 10 posts, but we may have to do without them if we want the speed.

[coolhand]

This is obviously not the peak time for the board, but it is running fast. I kind of got used to those stats and links to the last 10 posts, but we may have to do without them if we want the speed.

I like that info too. Especially the last 10 posts.

[grandma]

What can I say? :o I love to reread messages from friends when I get bored or need a boost. :embarrest:

..and who is to know when you will suddenly find you have a need to f/u on how someone is doing? ...I mean, after all, with everything else that is going on, there has to be a reference to `whatever somewhere!' :D
I could use a couple-hunerd more, myself!;)

[poolman]

Why was the MB Dead Slow at 3:20 this afternoon ?


For The Record. I noticed this slowdown from the on-set of adding the

extra stats. :cool:

Just For the Record This is what I said on

Feb 3, 2009

Look at Post #10 in this Thread...


And I stand by it

It is the Stat's Info............ :cool:

I Said this 15 Months AGO

[tsptalk]

I really wish I knew for sure. I remember back then we were turning them on, and turning them off. Changing the categories, etc. We had some good days some bad. It just hasn't been consistant and it's getting frustrating.

[coolhand]

It just hasn't been consistant and it's getting frustrating.

That's how I feel about my internet service right now. Fast and slow, up and down and it doesn't seem to matter the site.

Anyone else notice a change in your internet service the past few months?

[XL-entLady]

Anyone else notice a change in your internet service the past few months?
Yes. But I don't have access to a T-1. And the neighborhood, which shares bandwidth, used to be all fuddys like me. But several of the homes that were on the sales market started renting to younger families and now I get a slow-down as soon as kids get out of school and (I assume) start playing their online games.

[coolhand]

Yes. But I don't have access to a T-1. And the neighborhood, which shares bandwidth, used to be all fuddys like me. But several of the homes that were on the sales market started renting to younger families and now I get a slow-down as soon as kids get out of school and (I assume) start playing their online games.

It's not just slow service. I'm getting busy messages, page not found, etc. Not all the time though. I never used to have this problem and it's happening on all my computers. It comes and goes. I live out in the sticks, so I don't think it's a question of bandwidth. Just something odd happening.

I'll have to call my provider later this week and see what they say.

[nnuut]

That's how I feel about my internet service right now. Fast and slow, up and down and it doesn't seem to matter the site.

Anyone else notice a change in your internet service the past few months?
I have COX Cable no problem on my end, fast!!! I go to TSP Talk and it won't load or is slow as dirt, back to any other site and it's fine, Tom is right it's here.:cool:

[grandma]

It's not just slow service. I'm getting busy messages, page not found, etc. Not all the time though.


That is quite similar to the problems I was having several weeks ago.
...`page not found ' was the most common, or error messages. I could have just gone to a link, then not able to get back in. We more-or-less determined it was my Internet Explorer, cuz I haven't had a recurrence when I started using Mozilla Firefox. It had come to the point I never knew if I would be able to get in to make an IFT, or get into 'talk to record it.... Desktop & Laptop.

[tsptalk]

OK, stats page is back but we're down to 3 columns: Latest posts, latest news, and latest blogs. Let's see how she runs today.

[James48843]

Just started getting major hiccups. Was working fine all night, till about 15 minutes ago .

Going to http://etftalk.com as a backup.

[coolhand]

That is quite similar to the problems I was having several weeks ago.
...`page not found ' was the most common, or error messages. I could have just gone to a link, then not able to get back in. We more-or-less determined it was my Internet Explorer, cuz I haven't had a recurrence when I started using Mozilla Firefox. It had come to the point I never knew if I would be able to get in to make an IFT, or get into 'talk to record it.... Desktop & Laptop.

I switched to google chrome, which seemed fine when I made the switch, but even IE is giving me trouble. I just can't tell where the problem is coming from. This morning I was having a lot of trouble loading this sites web pages again. Up to 3 minutes to load a page, and then it would be fine again a minute later. ????:confused:

[tsptalk]

OK, stats page is back but we're down to 3 columns: Latest posts, latest news, and latest blogs. Let's see how she runs today.
Same problems this morning, with and without stats. I have logs gathering all of the info that may be causing the slowdown.

Thanks for your patience. I'm not sure what is going on.

[tsptalk]

Per recommendations, I made a few more adjustments to some features that are processor hogs. We'll see how it goes. Some features that you may be used to seeing may not show up like seeing alist of similar threads, or today's top poster, etc..

[James48843]

SO how's it working? Did they solve the issue?

[tsptalk]

We'll have to wait until the AM when traffic builds, before we know if their recommendation will help. There are a couple more things to try if it doesn't work, but at that point we have to start taking away features to gain speed.

[James48843]

Maybe what you need Tom is some Duct Tape.

That'll fix it.


9444

[tsptalk]

That qualifies for the tech team. :D

[KevinD]

You've got too many requests. I'm tryin' to tell ya...it's the FRTIB. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

Is there any way to count the number of page hits during that time period?

I'm being semi-serious. ;)

[tsptalk]

I don't really want to cut down on page hits. Many larger boards don't allow some of the features we've enjoyed here, since it can be a drag on performance. We may just have bite the bullet for while as a test, and see how it goes.

Does everyone know about the "Today's Posts" link in the top menu?

[nnuut]

11:11, so far so GOOD!!

[KevinD]

11:45 and all is well.

[nasa1974]

Thanks Tom for all the hard work.

[tsptalk]

Great! Sounds like things went OK this morning.

Tomorrow I may reactivate the stats box and see how it goes. Some of the other changes may have helped enough to keep things moving with the stats being active.

Thanks for the feedback!

[Buster]

yepper..The site acted normal all day...Thanks Tom.:)

[tsptalk]

The board is flying, even with the stats up. Cool!

[nnuut]

I LIKE IT!!!!:D

[KevinD]

A FRTIB denial of service attack? :blink: :laugh:




You've got too many requests. I'm tryin' to tell ya...it's the FRTIB. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

Is there any way to count the number of page hits during that time period?

I'm being semi-serious. ;)

...

[FAB1]

Yes!

[tsptalk]

Working on it. Sorry. I think it is / was the stats links at the top of the page. During peak times it slows us down.

[poolman]

I'm noticing a constant lag with everything that I click.

[tsptalk]

It seems OK to me right now, but I will run some table optimization scripts. It may be slow for a few minutes.

[crws]

Maybe what you need Tom is some Duct Tape.

That'll fix it.


9444

good enough for Apollo 13, good enough for everything else, right!? :D

[JTH]

Using Fire Fox, it's not loading Forum Stats under Top 12

Error: Check startup item options

[tsptalk]

thanks!

[James48843]

I can see stats just fine- I'm running Firefox 3.16.3

[nasa1974]

I'm on internet explorer and the stats box popped in and out all day yesterday. It is working fine now.