I fund for August 08

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 2.11% :worried:
AORD down 1.48% :worried:

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.1234

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.2556
minus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1234 = -$0.1322

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.3148
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1234 = -$0.1914

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.3445
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1234 = -$0.2211

[Braveheart]

EAFE final down -$0.3445
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1234 = -$0.2211

I think the I fund while it looks attractive may be in trouble. The FV makes it even more difficult and the foreign markets are having problems. It would not be a shock to see the I Fund below $20 soon.

[12%ayear]

I think the I fund while it looks attractive may be in trouble. The FV makes it even more difficult and the foreign markets are having problems. It would not be a shock to see the I Fund below $20 soon.
Strongly disagree with that comment. Looking for some strong returns from this point on. I see a double digit gain from these levels this year.

[XL-entLady]

Strongly disagree with that comment. Looking for some strong returns from this point on. I see a double digit gain from these levels this year.


That's very interesting, 12%. Could you give us some indication of what makes you come to that conclusion?

TIA,
Lady

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.3445
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1234 = -$0.2211 final :worried:

[Corvette]

I think the I fund while it looks attractive may be in trouble. The FV makes it even more difficult and the foreign markets are having problems. It would not be a shock to see the I Fund below $20 soon.

i agree with you, but I will probably jump in soon hoping for some quick mad money.

I missed the last chance.

[Braveheart]

Strongly disagree with that comment. Looking for some strong returns from this point on. I see a double digit gain from these levels this year.

My entry point will be as soon as it hits below $20.00. The foreign markets combined with ours is not good for this fund. JMO we shall see soon enough.

[Birchtree]

Once the European central banks start buying dollars this whole situation will turn around - and it will happen rather quickly. To me the bigger risk currently is being out of the market not in.

[McDuck]

Once the European central banks start buying dollarsWhy would they do that?

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 1.23% :worried:
AORD down 0.41% :worried:

FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.1147
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1147

[Silverbird]

Why would they do that?I'm a bit leery of that idea too, there's no reason for the EU to want their currency to keep rising. Anyway, if they buy too much and the dollar rises, China, Japan and the Middle Eastern oil countries will start to sell dollars to minimize their currency losses, and the EU would be stuck with the dollars.

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.1974
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1974

[12%ayear]

+fv coming

[ATCJeff]

+fv coming

Disagree. No +FV yet

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.2081
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.2081

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.2081
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.2081 final :worried:

second lowest day of the year :sick:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.14% :worried:
AORD down 1.52% :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down +$0.1127
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.1127

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.2117
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2117
plus FV Monday (guess) of +$0.1200 = +$0.3317

[12%ayear]

EAFE estimate up +$0.2117
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2117
plus FV Monday (guess) of +$0.1200 = +$0.3317
I would think it would be higher.:confused:

[Corvette]

I would think it would be higher.:confused:

You could be correct. There is a big difference with the C fund and S fund today.

Sometimes the FV appears to follow the S fund change, which would result in no FV today.

EAFE final up +$0.2117
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2117
plus FV Monday (guess) of +$0.1500 = +$0.3617

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.2117
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2117
plus FV Monday of +$0.1880 = +$0.3997 final :)

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 2.63% :)
AORD up 2.79% :)

FV for Wednesday (previous)= -$0.1880

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down +$0.2349
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1880 = +$0.0469

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.1654
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1880 = -$0.0226

[Frixxxx]

EAFE estimate up +$0.1654
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1880 = -$0.0226
Maybe we'll luck out and Break Even today!:cool:

[12%ayear]

+fv coming :)

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.1654
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1880 = -$0.0226

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.1654
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1880 = -$0.0226
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0035 = -$0.0191 final :worried:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.98% :worried:
AORD up 0.24% :)

FV for Thursday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.0861
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0861

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.1282
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1282

[ATCJeff]

08/04

+fv coming
Nope

08/06

+fv coming :)
Nope

These FV's are tough.:worried:

[luv2read]

12% has been a day early with his FV predictions both times. So +FV today. I hope.:)

[tspgo_com]

12% has been a day early with his FV predictions both times. So +FV today. I hope.:)

We are to far from a +FV. The I-Fund in -FV territory right now. I am wishing for a little reversal in the USM. Today. I just got out of the I-Fund and I would not be too thrilled if it gets -FV today.

Good luck!

[luv2read]

minus FV yesterday....plus FV today! Let's think positive!!! :D

Weirder things have happened with the mystery formula.

[ATCJeff]

My point. With the huge swings in the market, it's almost impossible to predict -FV's or +Fv's these days. 12% just comes to mind because he makes many predictions.:)

[12%ayear]

My point. With the huge swings in the market, it's almost impossible to predict -FV's or +Fv's these days. 12% just comes to mind because he makes many predictions.:)
Wrong predictions lately. This market feels like many are throwing in the towel. I disagree and still say that the I FUND will gain double digits off these lows. Just my 2 cents. Although the US DOLLAR is getting stronger, you will see OSMs gain momo for the year.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.1572
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1572
minus FV Thursday of -$0.1694 = -$0.3266 final :worried:

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.3332
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1694 = -$0.1638
plus FV Friday (guess) of +$0.1200 = -$0.0438


dollar up 1.73%

[ATCJeff]

EAFE estimate down -$0.3332
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1694 = -$0.1638
plus FV Friday (guess) of +$0.1200 = -$0.0438


dollar up 1.73%

Way to early to be predicting a FV for today. I'm thinking sell off this afternoon.

[luv2read]

and I'm thinking gains this afternoon and/or monday for I fund. Should be fun.:)

[ATCJeff]

and I'm thinking gains this afternoon and/or monday for I fund. Should be fun.:)

Not so sure about today. If we stay flat the rest of the day and the dollar does not sell-off, no gain today.

The dollar is killing the I fund.

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=w

[JTH]

An interesting note:

As of Thursday's I fund closing price of 20.89 we are only .22 cents above our year to date lows.

YTD, the I fund has only spend 4 days in the 20 dollar per share range.

[luv2read]

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=174920&postcount=1


Have you seen the movement in the dollar today. Wow!

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=w (http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=w)

[Frixxxx]

and I'm thinking gains this afternoon and/or monday for I fund. Should be fun.:)
Concur, I think this is the a strength point.....Tuesday or Wednesday for the selloff:cool:

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.2620
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1694 = -$0.0926
plus FV Friday (guess) of +$0.2600 = +$0.1674

[Corvette]

Way to early to be predicting a FV for today. I'm thinking sell off this afternoon.

My guess is at the time of the market.

I cannot predict the price at the close of the market.

[Corvette]

Concur, I think this is the a strength point.....Tuesday or Wednesday for the selloff:cool:

Your thinking is possible and I am thinking the same way.

I was thinking of buying today, but Europe was up.

Russia wants high oil prices. Perhaps they will escalate the war in Georgia. If Europe goes down next week, I may jump in and buy more.

[Rustynutt]

I'd say that with Georgia provoking it, I'm sure Russia will escalate the situation and provide protection. Seriously doubt Russia will allow genocide of their population. Bet more territorial disputes erupt before the end of this administration. Wonder what kind of a deal Obama is going to have to make to secure a spot as a world leader. At least McCain can just fall back on current policy.

[Braveheart]

I Fund + .0586 $20.9500 Wow :mad:

C Fund + .3447 $14.8130

S Fund + .3646 $18.3507 :nuts:

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.2620
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1694 = -$0.0926
plus FV Friday of +$0.1512 = +$0.0586 final :)

[Corvette]

S Fund + .3646 $18.3507 :nuts:

The business channel stated that the small caps are favored over large caps when the dollar gets stronger.

A good tidbit to remember.

[Braveheart]

The business channel stated that the small caps are favored over large caps when the dollar gets stronger.

A good tidbit to remember.

Right now I am 100% S Fund and it hasn't moved that well compared to the C Fund recently. The I Fund looks to be on the verge of a drop because the foreignn markets are doing bad. The strong dollar is good for tht USA but not for Foreign Countries.

So if the US Market has a bad day the I Fund drops. If the foreign Markets have a rea good day but the US Market is down the I Fund drops. To me it appears the I Fund does well if the Foreign have a very good day combined with the US Markets and that may happen one a week. Add in the -FV or +FV and right now after looking at the picture I can move there even at the low price. I really see it below $20 soon within a month.

[Birchtree]

I'm afraid the bad news of the european and Japanese economic slow downs have already been built into the I fund price. I'm going to hold my 30% position in the I fund because interest rates on a global basis are set to begin falling soon. That will rally the stocks of their respective countries.

[tsptalk]

Right now I am 100% S Fund and it hasn't moved that well compared to the C Fund recently. The I Fund looks to be on the verge of a drop because the foreignn markets are doing bad. The strong dollar is good for tht USA but not for Foreign Countries.
As long as rates aren't rising here, the small caps should come out of this slow down / recession better the large cap multi nationals, who will be affected negatively by a strengthening dollar - just as they benefited from the weak dollar.

The question is: Is the rally in the dollar for real, or another smoke screen? The answer to that is the answer to C or S.

[hessian]

I'll toss 2 cents into this discuss.
My understanding was the the weak dollar was good for the US (for past months) in helping helping maintain our export numbers. Now that its strengthening, we might see our export numbers retreat (especially as overseas is inflating ...this weakening their consumer)
Of course, the weak dollar was at same time, the cause for much of our country's problematic commodities bubbles (most hurtful was our oil/gas pices).

Point is, our U.S. exports have been critical, so, we still may see th U.S. dollar pullback some, short-term, -but, I hope this will be only sufficient, that our dollar can continue up again regaining its strength at a stable area.
Then going forward, with time, hoping we see even more continuing gradual improvement, giving us back our strong dollar, as the rest of the world consumers get their currencies under control as well.
- All the while, hope the old "bubble" baggage is left in the dust.
VR ;)

[Show-me]

My two cents. What is the big head line in the news? Auction rate securities that were frozen and now have to be bought from the investors by the bank and the bank has to pay a hefty fine. A few State imposed fine and more to come. That means less capital for the banks, again. They will need to raise capital and the overseas investors are the prime candidates with a weak dollar. So I think this rally is bull crap because the weaker the dollar is, the easier it is to get a foreign investor to invest in a risky proposition.

The banks NEED more capital from abroad, because no one in the U.S. is stepping up except the taxpayer.

[Corvette]

I'll toss 2 cents into this discuss.
My understanding was the the weak dollar was good for the US (for past months) in helping helping maintain our export numbers.
VR ;)

A weak dollar is like telling somebody that you will break their hand with your jaw.

A strong dollar is better for the USA.

[Corvette]

dollar is up 1.71% right now.

We may get hammered Monday.

[Show-me]

I believe that was Friday's rally.

[Show-me]

Actually I really HOPE that was Friday's rally. I bought some SLV for a bounce.

[Corvette]

I believe that was Friday's rally.

I think you are correct.

The display is still at 1.71%

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 1.99% :)
AORD up 0.63% :)

FV for Monday (previous)= -$0.1512

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate up +$0.1806
minus FV Monday (previous) of -$0.1512 = +$0.0294

[luv2read]

Euro reverses ground, re-takes $1.50
By Steve Goldstein
Last update: 4:40 a.m. EDT Aug. 11, 2008
LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The euro reversed ground in European action, rising 0.5% to $1.5074 after the steep losses over the previous week. The British pound and the Japanese yen also were higher but well below levels seen on Thursday
Go I Fund!

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.1802
minus FV Monday (previous) of -$0.1512 = +$0.0290


INO web site for dollar info still not working, used CNBC

dollar up 0.3% = 76.07

[Show-me]

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$USD&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p51972347693

Stockcharts has a screwy looking USD chart too. Anyone know what is going on?

[Show-me]

CNBC show up .55%

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15837290?q=.DIND

[nnuut]

This one looks good @ .36!:worried:
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?vol=Y&jav=adv&late=y&grid=Y&divd=Y&org=stk&sym=%24DXY&data=A&code=BSTK&evnt=adv

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.2592
minus FV Monday (previous) of -$0.1512 = +$0.1080

dollar up 0.49% = 76.22

[RPM]

EAFE final up +$0.2592
minus FV Monday (previous) of -$0.1512 = +$0.1080

dollar up 0.49% = 76.22

Thank you, as always :)

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.2592
minus FV Monday (previous) of -$0.1512 = +$0.1080
minus mystery money or rounding down of -$0.0073 = +$0.1007 final :)

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.95% :worried:
AORD up 0.41% :)

FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.2215
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.2215

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.1648
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1648

dollar up 0.19% = 76.27

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.1648
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1648

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.1648
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1648
plus mystery money or rounding up of +0.0014 = -$0.1634 final :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5668 up .0014
F fund 12.0916 up .0623
C fund 14.7414 down .1786
S fund 18.4523 down .1528
I fund 20.8873 down .1634 :worried:

FV for Wednesday (previous) = +$0.0000

third lowest day of the year for I fund :sick:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 2.11% :worried:
AORD down 1.85% :worried:

woe is me

FV for Wednesday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down-$0.1525
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1525

[Rustynutt]

Could get close to the low tomorrow.
How's the water feel?

[Corvette]

Could get close to the low tomorrow.
How's the water feel?

I may jump in soon.

The news said that the dollar may rise another 5%.

I think this is like jumping into an elevator going down. :confused:

[Rustynutt]

German GDP report expected to be down about 1%, but with a good first, shouldn't change market much (listening to Bloom in the back ground..), speeker thought that the next economy to contract a bit.

ING and AG Bank already reporting. No housing boom to bust in Europe. Inflation is high, but not out of hand, housing inventory from loss sales should be picked up quickly over there. Even with prices dropping, housing should remain a preimum in most areas. It's too wet to live outdoors. :)

Strong dollar means inexpensive I shares ;)

????? How much overseas holdings connected to the next U.S ARM reset in 09??? Big question next spring.

Heck, I don't know.

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down-$0.4846
FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.4846 :eek:

[Rustynutt]

Guess that answers the question "How's the water".
Isn't that a new (recent) low?

Hard to say if it was a bargin. I stayed put, but as someone said earlier, there may be greater risk being out of the fund right now. That's my gut feeling, but don't have the nads to back up it up :embarrest:

[Braveheart]

EAFE estimate down-$0.4846
FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.4846 :eek:

Wow on 8/9/08 I posted here that right now the I Fund is set up to fail and will be below $20.00 in a month. There is the +/- FV & add inflation & the rise of the dollar & the foreign markets are doing very bad & the only time it has a chance to rise is when both the United States & the Foreign Markets both have good days which is running about once a week.

The S Fund has really held up well the past 2 days and actually had a gain today in spite of a market down 109.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down-$0.4846
FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.4846 :eek:

[Corvette]

Wow on 8/9/08 I posted here that right now the I Fund is set up to fail and will be below $20.00 in a month. There is the +/- FV & add inflation & the rise of the dollar & the foreign markets are doing very bad & the only time it has a chance to rise is when both the United States & the Foreign Markets both have good days which is running about once a week.

The S Fund has really held up well the past 2 days and actually had a gain today in spite of a market down 109.

The rising dollar usually does not hurt the I fund because the Nikkei has been rising to compensate. The problem is the Nikkei has not gone up lately.

It appear Japan is in deep trouble and may soon be officially in a recession.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080813/bs_afp/japaneconomy_080813075128

Today should be a new low for the I fund in 2008.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down-$0.4846
FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.4846
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0057 = -$.4789 final :eek:

[Braveheart]

The rising dollar usually does not hurt the I fund because the Nikkei has been rising to compensate. The problem is the Nikkei has not gone up lately.

It appear Japan is in deep trouble and may soon be officially in a recession.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080813/bs_afp/japaneconomy_080813075128

Today should be a new low for the I fund in 2008.

It's down just a bit right now but I think tomorrow the market might make up some ground. But I might move all over to the G Fund within the nest 2 days this could crack in a second.

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5681 up .0013
F fund 12.0725 down .0191
C fund 14.7029 down .0385
S fund 18.5280 up .0757
I fund 20.4084 down .4789 :worried:

FV for Thursday (previous) = +$0.0000

Today is a new 2008 low for the I fund :worried:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.51% :worried:
AORD up 0.88% :)

FV for Thursday (previous)= +$0.0000

dollar up 0.29% = 76.48

[luv2read]

REUTERS
Europe shares turn flat after US inflation data

Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:40am EDT
LONDON, Aug 14 (Reuters) - European shares pared gains to trade flat on Thursday after U.S. data showed consumer inflation picked up by more than expected in July, cutting the chances interest rates will remain steady through the end of this year.
By 1235 GMT the FTSEurofirst 300 index of top European shares was flat at 1,179.40 points, versus 1,189.55 points just before the data. The index earlier rose by as much as 1.1 percent.
Banks became the largest drag on the index after the consumer inflation data. Royal Bank of Scotland dropped 2.8 percent, Barclays lost 3.4 percent and Banco Santander shed 1.5 percent.
(Reporting by Amanda Cooper)
Considering the forking (sticking it to) we got yesterday (lost 3/4% MORE than EFA), I wonder what BGI will do to the I fund today after that loss? :rolleyes:

[Gumby]

Considering the forking we got yesterday (lost 3/4% MORE than EFA), I wonder what BGI will do to the I fund today? :rolleyes:


More forking??????:blink:

[12%ayear]

Europe and Asia are way oversold. The US DOLLAR is overbought. Smell a nice run now towards the end of the year. Stick with it. 100% I FUND for me until 12-31-08.;)

[fedgolfer]

for the sake of our economy and long term retirment accounts I hope we don't see anything lower than $75 on the dollar index for many years.

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=dmax

[12%ayear]

for the sake of our economy and long term retirment accounts I hope we don't see anything lower than $75 on the dollar index for many years.

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=dmax
There will be a happy median.

[Birchtree]

Why is the U.S. trade deficit shrinking - it's the lower competitive dollar that is helping export trade and that is not about to stop even if the dollar rises.

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0545
FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0545

[12%ayear]

http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/13/news/buck_stops.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008081310 must read;)

[luv2read]

hmmmm 7PM CDT and still no TSP price on TSP.GOV? What's up BGI?:suspicious::nuts:

Posted TSP.GOV 7:12pm CDT:

G 12.5695
F 12.0937
C 14.7949
S 18.6826
I 20.4655

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0545
FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0545
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0026 = +$0.0571 final :)

[JTH]

Yea I Fund!!! :d

[hessian]

S-Fund closed UP today 0.86% -- but, TSP shows it only added .0757 ??

I-Fund closed DOWN 0.39% -- but, TSP shows it lost .4789 ?? :suspicious: :sick:

Anyone,
I know about +/-FVs, but how's this possible? -- This has got to be a MISTAKE -- Or its the worst we have EVER seen !!!?
--I'd say same, for BOTH funds -- BOTH got whacked BIG time! -- Is it BARCLAYS ??

[hessian]

S-Fund closed UP today 0.86% -- but, TSP shows it only added .0757 ??

I-Fund closed DOWN 0.39% -- but, TSP shows it lost .4789 ?? :suspicious: :sick:

Anyone,
I know about +/-FVs, but how's this possible? -- This has got to be a MISTAKE -- Or its the worst we have EVER seen !!!?
--I'd say same, for BOTH funds -- BOTH got whacked BIG time! -- Is it BARCLAYS ??
Sorry everyone-wrong day!! whoa! TSP was late in posting (too late to delete/edit my goofed post).
Again, OOPS, sorry!:embarrest:

[luv2read]

Hessian,

All the funds closed up today. And Barclays posted a $3.4B loss so they have to make it up to their investors...sticking it to TSP is one way to do it. We get forked again - but that was yesterday.;)

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 0.48% :)
AORD 0.00% :blink:

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.0000

dollar up 0.37% = 77.01

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.1177
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1177

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.1701
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1701

dollar up 0.62% = 77.20 :blink:

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.1701
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1701

dollar up 0.56% = 77.15 :blink:

a new 2008 low for the I fund

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.1701
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1701
minus mystery money or rounding down of -$0.0006 = -$0.1707 final :worried:

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 1.12% :)
AORD up 0.09% :)

FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate up +$0.0463
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.0463

[Braveheart]

early EAFE estimate up +$0.0463
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.0463

Could this be a day when the I Fund gains ??? :nuts:

The dollar was down but now if the US Markets fail today it's all for not. I think people are scared now more than ever. The volume was so low last week people on vacations any rally really had no support. I am glad I moved all to the G Fund from the S Fund because this could really be that 400 point drop in a day week and I don't want to be in the market to find out which day is the one. :worried:

[Davehop21]

The I fund sure is looking tempting but I don't have enough lead in my shorts to make my first move this month.

Dave

[Guest2]

Could this be a day when the I Fund gains ???

Maybe, but not as much as you would like ! :suspicious:


The I fund sure is looking tempting but I don't have enough lead in my shorts to make my first move this month. Dave

I have that same problem but for off topic reasons ! :nuts:
I'm not convinced the (I) Fund will show the type of
results you may be looking for. You might want to save
those bullets for the next ride up in the (C) or (S). IMHO ;)

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.1061
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.1061

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.0649
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.0649
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.1400 = -$0.0751

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0653
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.0653
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.1400 = -$0.0747

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0653
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.0653
minus FV Monday of -$0.1498 = -$0.0845 final :worried:

[Rustynutt]

Wow, just got in. Nikkei is down a bit :blink:

[Braveheart]

Wow, just got in. Nikkei is down a bit :blink:

A bit ?

Nikkei down close to 2.68% in early trading

AORD down close to 1.50% in early trading

If that holds and the US Markets drop today is the day the I Fund drops below $20.

Sorry for the bad news but it don't look good at all for the I Fund right now.

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5749 up .0041
F fund 12.1352 up .0149
C fund 14.6248 down .2223
S fund 18.4246 down .2714
I fund 20.2103 down .0845 :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.1498

New 2008 low for the I fund :worried:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 2.28% :worried:
AORD down 2.24% :worried:

Woe is me.

FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.1498

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.3618
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1498 = -$0.2120

dollar up 0.32% = 77.40

[Rustynutt]

I can't take this any longer. Unless something changes like aliens land in Hootersville, I'm taking a morning dip before 8am PST. Not a splash, just a dip.

Whats to look for TSP wise? S&P gives the I a +FV?

Thanks for your long hours and time Corvette!

[Show-me]

Watch the dollar hype. ECB lowering rates to fuel the economy and the US raising rates to fight inflation.

[luv2read]

no rate hike here until December - after the election. Mortgage rates already high despite cuts that helped financials who didn't pass them on to borrowers, and too much fear a rate hike now will give banks incentive to raise lending rates and crash everything that's teetering on the edge. JMO.:nuts:

[DCguy]

i think now's good time to go all in I. almost always after the olympic games, the market tends to see large gains. the I fund lost almost 19% in 2008. The dollar's very strong now and will be stronger after the fed raises the rate, but I think the I fund is too cheap to pass

[Guest2]

i think now's good time to go all in I. almost always after the olympic games, the market tends to see large gains. the I fund lost almost 19% in 2008. The dollar's very strong now and will be stronger after the fed raises the rate, but I think the I fund is too cheap to pass

Good Luck (Sincerely) with that, BUT, I couldn't disagree more ! :worried:

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.4424
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1498 = -$0.2926

dollar down 0.25% = 76.96

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.4762
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1498 = -$0.3264

dollar down 0.37% = 76.87

[ATCJeff]

no rate hike here until December - after the election.

You do realize that the election has nothing to do with the rise or reductions in the Federal Funds rate. History shows that the Governors of the Federal Reserve do not consider the ramifications of lowering or raising rates prior to the election.

2008 rates were falling then a slight increase
2004 rates were rising
2000 rates were rising
1996 rates were unchanged (minus January)
1992 rates were falling
1988 rates were rising
1984 rates were rising (a increase in early Nov)

As you can see almost every year rates were either rising or falling during the preceding months up to the election in November.

Jeff

data from here:
http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/statistics/dlyrates/fedrate.html

[XL-entLady]

You do realize that the election has nothing to do with the rise or reductions in the Federal Funds rate.

That's right! Politics don't enter into Federal Reserve decisions at all! ;)
ROFLMAO!!

Lady

[luv2read]

That's right! Politics don't enter into Federal Reserve decisions at all! ;)
ROFLMAO!!

Lady
Lady, I hope you didn't hurt yourself in that fall and rolling around...get up now please. LOL!:nuts::D

[Guest2]

I know I'm opening a can of worms here, but open I must.

Yes, even CNBC addressed the issue of pre-election moves by the FED.
National Elections, of coarse. They showed that rates were raised, held
and lowered without much ado about anything, no less the elections. :)

[ATCJeff]

That's right! Politics don't enter into Federal Reserve decisions at all! ;)
ROFLMAO!!

Lady

That's an intelligent response.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.4762
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1498 = -$0.3264

dollar down 0.52% = 76.76

[Eagle_Addict]

EAFE final down -$0.4762
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1498 = -$0.3264

dollar down 0.52% = 76.76

So, the I fund will be under 20.00.........That is a first for a long time!!! When is a good jumping in point?!?!?!?!? I have been on the sidelines for awhile and want to make at least one IF for August, but so far have not seen a good jumping in point.........EA

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.4762
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1498 = -$0.3264
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0024 = -$0.3240 final :worried:

[Corvette]

So, the I fund will be under 20.00.........That is a first for a long time!!! When is a good jumping in point?!?!?!?!? I have been on the sidelines for awhile and want to make at least one IF for August, but so far have not seen a good jumping in point.........EA

On 18-Sep-06, the I fund was 19.87.

Today is a new 2008 I fund low of 19.8863

Almost a 2 year low.

I jumped in today. :suspicious:

[luv2read]

On 18-Sep-06, the I fund was 19.87.

Today is a new 2008 I fund low of 19.8863

Almost a 2 year low.

I jumped in today. :suspicious:

OK my eyes deceive me...or my math is wrong...but 1986 = $19.87
is still lower than 2008 = $19.88?:blink:

So the "old low" is still the low?:confused:

And good luck! Yours must be brass.

[Braveheart]

OK my eyes deceive me...or my math is wrong...but 1986 = $19.87
is still lower than 2008 = $19.88?:blink:

So the "old low" is still the low?:confused:

And good luck! Yours must be brass.

If the dow is down tomorrow and Japan is down which it already is right now then tomorrow will be another down day. I think in the next week it will stay between $19.45 - $20.35

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.10% :worried:
AORD up 1.23% :)

FV for Wednesday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate up +$0.1139
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.1139

dollar up 0.14% = 76.87

[luv2read]

Asia green except for a little red in Nikkei. Maybe good day for I funders!:D

[Gumby]

early EAFE estimate up +$0.1139
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.1139

dollar up 0.14% = 76.87

Corvette,

What is the anticipated FV Thursday (previous)?

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.0724
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.0724

dollar up 0.49% = 77.13

[Corvette]

Corvette,

What is the anticipated FV Thursday (previous)?

Are you off by a day?

Today is Wednesday. :confused:

[Corvette]

Asia green except for a little red in Nikkei. Maybe good day for I funders!:D

I fund is up, but the dollar rise is reducing the gains. :worried:

[Gumby]

Are you off by a day?

Today is Wednesday. :confused:

I was hoping you had a crystal ball to make a prediction.:o

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0859
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.0859

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0859
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.0859
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0126 = +$0.0985 final :)

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.77% :worried:
AORD down 0.96% :worried:

FV for Thursday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.0030
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0030

dollar down 0.43% = 76.60

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.0498
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0498

dollar down 0.96% = 76.19

[Corvette]

EAFE final up+$0.0498
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0498

dollar down 1.05% = 76.12

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0498
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0498
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.004 = +$0.0502 final :)

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.68% :worried:
AORD up 1.22% :)

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.0152
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0152
dollar up 0.18% = 76.16

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.0819
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0819

dollar up 0.78% = 76.61

[luv2read]

GREEN DAY! Unless there's a profit-taking selloff in the afternoon.


US STOCKS-Wall St extends gains after Bernanke comments
Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:18am EDT
(Updates with reaction to Bernanke comments)
NEW YORK, Aug 22 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks added to gains on Friday after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said the recent decline in commodity prices and stabilization of the U.S. dollar were encouraging. For details, see [ID:nWEQ000126].
The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI rose 143.30 points, or 1.25 percent, to 11,573.51. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index .SPX shot up 11.82 points, or 0.93 percent, to 1,289.54. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC (http://www.reuters.com/finance/markets/index?symbol=us%21comp) climbed 24.66 points, or 1.04 percent, to 2,405.04.
The market was already broadly higher before Bernanke's speech at the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City Economic Symposium in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
Expectations of an investment in U.S. bank Lehman Brothers (LEH.N: Quote (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/quote?symbol=LEH.N), Profile (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=LEH.N), Research (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/researchReports?symbol=LEH.N), Stock Buzz (http://reuters.socialpicks.com/stock/r/LEH)) underpinned an advance in shares of financial services companies.
Shares of No. 3 U.S. bank, JPMorgan (JPM.N: Quote (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/quote?symbol=JPM.N), Profile (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=JPM.N), Research (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/researchReports?symbol=JPM.N), Stock Buzz (http://reuters.socialpicks.com/stock/r/JPM)), more than 4 percent to $38.06.
A decline in oil prices boosted shares of big manufacturers, including United Technologies (UTX.N: Quote (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/quote?symbol=UTX.N), Profile (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=UTX.N), Research (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/researchReports?symbol=UTX.N), Stock Buzz (http://reuters.socialpicks.com/stock/r/UTX)) , airlines and consumer-oriented companies. Shares of major technology companies were another standout. United Tech was up 1.8 percent to $65.38. (Reporting by Ellis Mnyandu; Editing by Kenneth Barry)



U.S. dollar trims gains vs euro after Bernanke comments
Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:19am EDT
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. dollar trimmed gains against the euro on Friday after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said a stable currency and a decline in commodity prices should help slow inflation this year and next.
His remarks pared back expectations of an U.S. interest rate increase this year, diminishing the dollar's appeal to global investors.
The euro rose as high as $1.4835 against the dollar from $1.4815 before Bernanke's remarks. Against the yen, the dollar held gains at 109.97 yen.
Bernanke spoke at an annual symposium in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
(Reporting by Gertrude Chavez-Dreyfuss; Editing by Jonathan Oatis)

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.1078
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.1078

dollar up 1.04% = 76.81

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.1078
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.1078
minus mystery money or rounding down of -$0.0006 = +$.1072 final :)

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5803 up .0014
F fund 12.1288 down .0156
C fund 14.7852 up .1675
S fund 18.4578 up .2121
I fund 20.1422 up .1072 :)

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.0000

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 1.68% :)
AORD up 1.55% :)

FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.0145
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0145

dollar up 0.40% = 77.05

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.0226
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0226

dollar down 0.02% = 76.73

[luv2read]

what a difference a day makes...or a few hours!:D

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.0431
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0431
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.1200 = -$0.0769

dollar down 0.04% = 76.71

[luv2read]

EAFE estimate up +$0.0431
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0431
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.1200 = -$0.769

dollar down 0.04% = 76.71
Shouldn't that be -$0.0769? -$0.769 is scary! Please ...another zero! ;)


Thank you for the updates EVERY day!

[Corvette]

Shouldn't that be -$0.0769? -$0.769 is scary! Please ...another zero! ;)


Thank you for the updates EVERY day!

oops:worried:

thanks

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.0431
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0431
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.2000 = -$0.1569

dollar down 0.16% = 76.62

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0117
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0117
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.2000 = -$0.1883

dollar up 0.10% = 76.82

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0117
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0117
minus FV Monday of -$0.1745 = -$0.1628 final :worried:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.78% :worried:
AORD down 0.48% :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.1745

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.2585
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1745 = -$0.0840

dollar up 0.43% = 77.16

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.1762
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1745 = -$0.0017

dollar up 0.53% = 77.24

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.1636
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1745 = +$0.0109

dollar up 0.53% = 77.24

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.1636
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1745 = +$0.0109
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0044 = +$0.0153 final :)

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.20% :worried:
AORD up 0.11% :)

FV for Wednesday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.0104
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0104

dollar down 0.33% = 76.99

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.0402
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0402

dollar down 0.01% = 77.23

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.0764
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0764
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0006 = +$0.0770 final :)

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 0.12% :)
AORD up 1.09% :)

FV for Thursday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.2463
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2463

dollar up 0.02% = 77.05

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.2173
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2173

dollar up 0.11% = 77.12

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.2173
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2173
plus FV Thursday of +$0.1134 = +$0.3307 final :)

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 2.39% :)
AORD up 1.86% :)

FV for Friday (previous) = -$0.1134

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate up +$0.1820
plus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.1134 = +$0.0686

dollar down 0.19% = 77.00

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.1638
plus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.1134 = +$0.0504

dollar up 0.07% = 77.21

[Braveheart]

I fund -2 cents ?

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.2316
plus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.1134 = +$0.1182
minus FV Friday of -$0.1373 = -$0.0191 final :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5925 up .0041
F fund 12.1896 down .0042
C fund 14.6844 down .2033
S fund 18.5195 down .1730
I fund 20.3833 down .0191 :worried:

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.1373

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate down -$0.1906
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.1373 = -$0.0533

dollar up 0.28% = 77.53