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Corvette
07-01-2008, 04:57 AM
Nikkei down 0.13% :worried:
AORD down 1.35% :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-01-2008, 05:06 AM
Europe is down big today. FTSE is down over 2.5% right now.

It is not a good start for July.

I should have sold more yesterday.

Panic time.

Woe is me. :worried:

dollar down 0.23%

FundSurfer
07-01-2008, 05:08 AM
Looks ugly....

We are almost to a very pivotal point. If we go below support, there is a big drop to the next support. It might be prudent to go to the sidelines until after the market has made up its mind.

Corvette
07-01-2008, 05:12 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.3084
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3084

dollar down 0.22%

fedgolfer
07-01-2008, 10:06 AM
If ECB raises, dollar will rise, oil will fall (since the dollar/oil trade seems to be the real currency trade), equities should rise... short term bounce, correct?

luv2read
07-01-2008, 10:11 AM
rising dollar = down I fund

fedgolfer
07-01-2008, 10:19 AM
I know that, I'm not talking about I fund even though I posted this in the I-fund, thread. I think equities may have a short-term bounce but I fund may be held back because of the rising dollar. But still, my question is still open to others if they think the ECB raising rates may equate to rising US equities because everyone that trades oil, does so on the strength/weakness of the dollar. I'm contemplating buying into C&S funds since there is a lot of fear out there, almost everyone is pessimistic and short, and the weekly chart on the S&P is in bargain territory (doesn't mean it can't get worse, but it might get better before it gets worse).

Guest2
07-01-2008, 10:33 AM
I know that, I'm not talking about I fund even though I posted this in the I-fund, thread. I think equities may have a short-term bounce but I fund may be held back because of the rising dollar. But still, my question is still open to others if they think the ECB raising rates may equate to rising US equities because everyone that trades oil, does so on the strength/weakness of the dollar. I'm contemplating buying into C&S funds since there is a lot of fear out there, almost everyone is pessimistic and short, and the weekly chart on the S&P is in bargain territory (doesn't mean it can't get worse, but it might get better before it gets worse).

IMHO, the Fed blew it when they left the Fed Funds Rate unchanged. The
fight is against inflation. If the Fed raised rates, the USM might have seen
the dollar rise, oil drop and any hit on equities could have been marginalized.
Instead, we have a free falling USM, higher oil and a sinking dollar. The ECB
will likely raise rates. The Market will wait on the wording. If they give us
the hint of continuing rate hikes, the USM will take a crap. For how long is
anyones guess !

fedgolfer
07-01-2008, 10:38 AM
IMHO, the Fed blew it when they left the Fed Funds Rate unchanged. The
fight is against inflation. If the Fed raised rates, the USM might have seen
the dollar rise, oil drop and any hit on equities could have been marginalized.
Instead, we have a free falling USM, higher oil and a sinking dollar. The ECB
will likely raise rates. The Market will wait on the wording. If they give us
the hint of continuing rate hikes, the USM will take a crap. For how long is
anyones guess !

But since the Fed probably knows that we're really importing inflation, they didn't cut, knowing that the ECB most likely would... that way inflation is fought globally with the FEd not even having to raise rates. It may be painful in the short term, but i'm starting to think they did it right. I guess we'll see if the ECB rate hikes curb inflation, which it should. Most likely, if it plays out this way... its way too early to definitely play it (I may take my IFT off the table today, and wait for a clearer sign) Maybe i'm too optimistic or just blind. Thanks for sharing your insights, as always!

Corvette
07-01-2008, 11:15 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.3362
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3362

dollar down 0.10%

Corvette
07-01-2008, 12:03 PM
EAFE estimate down -$0.3682
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3682

dollar down 0.34%

luv2read
07-01-2008, 02:37 PM
ECB rate hike will kill the dollar and hike oil higher - which will hike US inflation. Watch.

Corvette
07-01-2008, 05:41 PM
EAFE final down -$0.3689
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3689
plus FV Tuesday (guess) of $0.12 = $-$0.2489

Corvette
07-01-2008, 06:43 PM
EAFE final down -$0.3689
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3689
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0089 = -$.3600 final :worried:

Corvette
07-01-2008, 08:57 PM
G fund 12.5100 up .0100
F fund 12.0600 down .0200
C fund 14.6500 up .0600
S fund 18.2800 up .0100
I fund 21.7300 down .3600 :worried:

FV for Wednesday (previous) = +$0.00

Corvette
07-02-2008, 01:23 AM
Nikkei down 1.31% :worried:
AORD down 0.94% :worried:

FV for Wednesday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-02-2008, 10:47 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.0639
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.0639

dollar down 0.31%

Corvette
07-02-2008, 12:08 PM
EAFE estimate down -$0.0932
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.0932

dollar down 0.42%

Corvette
07-02-2008, 08:48 PM
EAFE estimate down -$0.0932
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.0932
minus FV Wednesday of $0.2196 = $0.3128 :worried:

Corvette
07-02-2008, 09:03 PM
G fund 12.5115 up .0013
F fund 12.0804 up .0113
C fund 14.3879 down .2600
S fund 17.7766 down .5072
I fund 21.4215 down .3128 :worried:

FV for Thuresday (previous) = +$0.2196

Corvette
07-03-2008, 01:36 AM
Nikkei down 0.16% :worried:
AORD down 2.26% :worried:

FV for Thursday (previous)= +$0.2196

Corvette
07-03-2008, 01:57 AM
The I-fund is one cent from the low of 2008.

I hope it holds, but it does not not seem likely. :worried:

Corvette
07-03-2008, 10:32 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.0940
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of = +$0.2196 = +$0.1256

dollar up 0.90%

Corvette
07-03-2008, 11:05 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.1082
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of = +$0.2196 = +$0.1114

dollar up 0.93%

Corvette
07-03-2008, 05:36 PM
EAFE final down -$0.0936
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of = +$0.2196 = +$0.1260

Frixxxx
07-03-2008, 05:49 PM
Thanks Corvette

Have a great fourth and Happy Independence Day to All!:cool:

Corvette
07-03-2008, 06:23 PM
EAFE final down -$0.0936
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of = +$0.2196 = +$0.1260
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0026 = +$0.1286 final :)

Corvette
07-03-2008, 08:00 PM
G fund 12.5129 up .0014
F fund 12.0705 down .0099
C fund 14.4040 up .0161
S fund 17.5669 down .2097
I fund 21.5501 up .1286 :)

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.0000

Corvette
07-04-2008, 09:49 AM
Nikkei down 0.21% :worried:
AORD up 1.49% :)

FV for Monsday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-04-2008, 09:56 AM
Friday EAFE estimate down -$0.1972
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.1972

This would be a new 2008 low :worried:

Corvette
07-04-2008, 02:53 PM
Friday EAFE Final down -$0.1707
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.1707

This would be a new 2008 low :worried:

Corvette
07-04-2008, 03:35 PM
Thanks Corvette

Have a great fourth and Happy Independence Day to All!:cool:

Anytime

I hope the I-fund holds and goes up. :cool:

James48843
07-04-2008, 07:37 PM
For what it's worth-

Japan down today.
CAC, DAX, FSTE all down today.

We will start out Monday with the I being in the hole by quite a bit.

Corvette
07-05-2008, 11:39 AM
For what it's worth-

Japan down today.
CAC, DAX, FSTE all down today.

We will start out Monday with the I being in the hole by quite a bit.

The I fund is currently at an unofficial 21.3794, which would be a new 2008 low. :worried:

Rustynutt
07-06-2008, 04:30 PM
That's about .20 lower than what I was considering for a long IFT just a few weeks ago.
Still timid about it all right now, but know (think) that adding to the I in the long run is a must.
My Lady arrived from Holland Friday night with my Euros.....

Corvette
07-07-2008, 01:24 AM
Nikkei up 0.92% :)
AORD down 1.51% :worried:

FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-07-2008, 01:30 AM
Friday EAFE Final down -$0.1707
Monday EAFE estimate down -$0.0485
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.2192

James48843
07-07-2008, 02:47 AM
Japan, Europe now both green.

Corvette
07-07-2008, 11:26 AM
Friday EAFE Final down -$0.1707
Monday EAFE estimate up +$0.1488
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.0219

Corvette
07-07-2008, 01:24 PM
Friday EAFE Final down -$0.1707
Monday EAFE estimate up +$0.1488
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.0219
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.14 = -$0.1619

Corvette
07-07-2008, 05:58 PM
Friday EAFE Final down -$0.1707
Monday EAFE final up +$0.1561
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.0146
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.12 = -$0.1319
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sugarandspice
07-07-2008, 06:06 PM
Offiicial results w/o the bs extra $'s

G-12.51
F-12.09
C-14.28
S-17.38
I-21.53

Corvette
07-07-2008, 06:27 PM
Friday EAFE Final down -$0.1707
Monday EAFE final up +$0.1561
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.0146
plus mystery money or rounding of +$0.0018 = -$0.0128 final :worried:

McDuck
07-07-2008, 07:38 PM
Friday EAFE Final down -$0.1707
Monday EAFE final up +$0.1561
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.0146
plus mystery money or rounding of +$0.0018 = -$0.0128 final :worried:

It came close to having a -FV today, right?

EFA closed down ~0.8% from where it was a 1150 AMET.

Corvette
07-07-2008, 08:27 PM
It came close to having a -FV today, right?

EFA closed down ~0.8% from where it was a 1150 AMET.

The -FV was close today. The -FV was in range and the dollar went up a little late in the day. i called a -FV but not today.

Perhaps more folks moved into the I fund today and Barclays gave a higher price to the folks moving into the I fund.

This would be like Las Vegas. The house gets it cut.

Corvette
07-07-2008, 08:28 PM
G fund 12.5183 up .0054
F fund 12.0904 up .0199
C fund 14.2839 down .1201
S fund 17.3870 down .1799
I fund 21.5373 down .0128 :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.0000

Corvette
07-08-2008, 01:24 AM
Nikkei down 2.45% :worried:
AORD down 1.30% :worried:

Woe is me

FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-08-2008, 04:18 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.3993
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3993

massive selloffs in Europe today :worried:

dollar down 0.11%

McDuck
07-08-2008, 05:06 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.3993
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3993

massive selloffs in Europe today :worried:

dollar down 0.11%

Anybody have a guess when it's going to stop going down?

James48843
07-08-2008, 05:45 AM
Anybody have a guess when it's going to stop going down?

When our economy is more favorable for manufacturing than that of Free Trade Agreement countries like Bahrain, Chile, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Israel, Jordan, Mexico, Morocco, Nicaragua, and Singapore, and now, pending before Congress, Korea, Columbia, and Panama. http://www.trade.gov/fta/index.asp

It's a race to the bottom.

We're trying to be just like those countries. People starving, unemployment through the roof, and unable to afford fuel for the car.

When a dollar is only worth one Yuan, then we'll see a bottom.

DCguy
07-08-2008, 07:56 AM
Unless oil bubble bursts..

Gumby
07-08-2008, 08:08 AM
When a dollar is only worth one Yuan, then we'll see a bottom.

Ouch !!!! 4228
USA will be exporting tee-shirts and shoes to China if that happens.:nuts:

nnuut
07-08-2008, 08:27 AM
Dollar +0.238 @09:26
http://charts.barchart.com/chart.asp?sym=DXY0&data=Z10&date=051305&den=MED&divd=n&evnt=ADV&grid=Y&jav=ADV&size=B&sky=N&sly=N&vol=Y&late=Y&ch1=011&arga=&argb=&argc=&ov1=&argd=&arge=&argf=&ch2=&argg=&argh=&argi=&ov2=&argj=&argk=&argl=&code=BSTKIC&org=stk

Silverbird
07-08-2008, 09:10 AM
When our economy is more favorable for manufacturing than that of Free Trade Agreement countries like Bahrain, Chile, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Israel, Jordan, Mexico, Morocco, Nicaragua, and Singapore, and now, pending before Congress, Korea, Columbia, and Panama. http://www.trade.gov/fta/index.asp

It's a race to the bottom.

Not to be alarmist, but our market is already wide open. Was wide open before we signed a lot of those trade agreements. Barn door's open and the horse has left - especially when dealing with high agricultural tariff countries like Korea that have better access to us than we have to them - look what their farmers do as soon as it looks like their door's going to open (though I do admit we've given their agricultural lobby free ammunition with our problems in bovine spongiform eradication).

Corvette
07-08-2008, 12:05 PM
EAFE estimate down -$0.3340
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3340


dollar up 0.46%

12%ayear
07-08-2008, 02:54 PM
huge+fv coming

Corvette
07-08-2008, 06:09 PM
EAFE final down -$0.3344
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3344
plus FV Tuesday (guess) of +$0.2800 = -$0.0544

Corvette
07-08-2008, 06:23 PM
EAFE final down -$0.3344
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of = +$0.0000 = -$0.3344
plus FV Tuesday of +$0.2017 = -$0.1327 final :worried:

Corvette
07-08-2008, 08:30 PM
G fund 12.5196 up .0013
F fund 12.1354 up .0450
C fund 14.5327 up .2488
S fund 17.8037 up .4167
I fund 21.4046 down .1327 :worried:

FV for Wednesday (previous) =-$0.2017

Corvette
07-08-2008, 08:31 PM
21.4046


This is a new low for 2008 :worried:

woe is me

Corvette
07-09-2008, 01:02 AM
Anybody have a guess when it's going to stop going down?

If you go by charts with head and shoulders, 18.30 would be the other shoulder.

As for time, this may go for another year.

Corvette
07-09-2008, 01:28 AM
Nikkei up 0.15% :)
AORD up 1.33% :)

FV for Wednesday (previous)= -$0.2017

Corvette
07-09-2008, 10:15 AM
EAFE estimate up +$0.3273
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of = -$0.2017 = +$0.1256


dollar down 0.42%

Corvette
07-09-2008, 11:22 AM
EAFE estimate up +$0.3703
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of = -$0.2017 =+$0.1686


dollar down 0.44%

McDuck
07-09-2008, 03:02 PM
There is going to be a powerful -FV this evening, right? Maybe as much as 2%? I've got my fingers crossed because I went 100%-I-fund today.

McDuck
07-09-2008, 03:14 PM
EAFE estimate up +$0.3703


MSCI up 1.66% today which matchs with your 37 cents.

McDuck
07-09-2008, 03:20 PM
If you go by charts with head and shoulders, 18.30 would be the other shoulder.

As for time, this may go for another year.

By 18.30 you mean the I-fund share price, right ?

That is down 14.4% from where it closed yesterday.

Corvette
07-09-2008, 05:24 PM
EAFE final up +$0.3548
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of = -$0.2017 =+$0.1531
minus FV Wednesday (guess) of -$0.20 = -$0.0469

Corvette
07-09-2008, 05:28 PM
There is going to be a powerful -FV this evening, right? Maybe as much as 2%? I've got my fingers crossed because I went 100%-I-fund today.


The FV is usually less than the difference of the US markets and the EAFE, especially with 2 FV adjustments in one day.

Corvette
07-09-2008, 05:33 PM
By 18.30 you mean the I-fund share price, right ?

That is down 14.4% from where it closed yesterday.

Yes, that would be the I fund price. Another 14.4% would in range of a bear market.

If we are headed into a bear market, 18.30 seems possible.

I hope not.

Corvette
07-09-2008, 06:29 PM
EAFE final up +$0.3548
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of = -$0.2017 =+$0.1531
minus FV Wednesday (guess) of -$0.2608 = -$0.1077 final :worried:

McDuck
07-09-2008, 06:56 PM
EAFE final up +$0.3548
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of = -$0.2017 =+$0.1531
minus FV Wednesday (guess) of -$0.2608 = -$0.1077 final :worried:

I-fund share at 21.2969 cob-today.
That's a FV of - 1.2%. I was hoping for ~ -2.0% but I will be happy to get what I got.

Corvette
07-09-2008, 09:40 PM
G fund 12.5209 up .0013
F fund 12.1754 up .0400
C fund 14.2032 down .3295
S fund 17.4671 down .3366
I fund 21.2969 down .1077 :worried:

FV for Thursday (previous) = +$0.2608

Corvette
07-09-2008, 09:45 PM
I-fund share at 21.2969 cob-today.
That's a FV of - 1.2%. I was hoping for ~ -2.0% but I will be happy to get what I got.

You got a good price.

Now you have to wait for feast or famine.

Corvette
07-10-2008, 05:47 AM
Nikkei up 0.12% :)
AORD down 1.35% :worried:

FV for Thurssday (previous)= +$0.2608

Corvette
07-10-2008, 05:52 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.2658
plus FV Thursday (previous) of =+$0.2608 = -$0.0050

dollar up 0.24%

Corvette
07-10-2008, 11:08 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.2713
plus FV Thursday (previous) of =+$0.2608 = -$0.0105

dollar down 0.10%

Corvette
07-10-2008, 12:06 PM
EAFE estimate down -$0.2396
plus FV Thursday (previous) of =+$0.2608 = +$0.0212

dollar down 0.03%

fedgolfer
07-10-2008, 03:23 PM
... I heard a Bloomberg guest suggesting to go short the EAFE today. I'm not suggesting that at all, but EFZ and EFU (ultra short 2x), are ETF vehicles to hedge or make $ when the I-fund is going down.

http://www.proshares.com/funds

Birchtree
07-10-2008, 04:30 PM
Bloomberg is probably late to the party - when everyone else is playing the short game the danger is doubled - not for me. This market will catch most by surprise and turn on a dime. Especially the foreign markets.

12%ayear
07-10-2008, 05:16 PM
... I heard a Bloomberg guest suggesting to go short the EAFE today. I'm not suggesting that at all, but EFZ and EFU (ultra short 2x), are ETF vehicles to hedge or make $ when the I-fund is going down.

http://www.proshares.com/funds
too late.....Overseas will ramp. We have hit the bottom. Time to jump on. You will see Dow 12000s before 10000s.

Corvette
07-10-2008, 05:37 PM
EAFE final down -$0.2645
plus FV Thursday (previous) of =+$0.2608 = -$0.037

airlift
07-10-2008, 06:10 PM
Which Fund should outperform going forward?

Corvette
07-10-2008, 06:24 PM
EAFE final down -$0.2645
plus FV Thursday (previous) of =+$0.2608 = -$0.0037
plus mystery money or round of +$0.0197 = +$0.0160 :)

fedgolfer
07-10-2008, 11:13 PM
too late.....Overseas will ramp. We have hit the bottom. Time to jump on. You will see Dow 12000s before 10000s.

agreed.. or I hope you're right. i'm all-in S today and tomorrow. Hopefully those Iranians won't fire off any more missles and spoil the rallies again. That oil spike today was ridiculous... that instability/oil trade is pretty darn pavlovian. With those oil ETFs, everyone and their brother is gonna play that trade too and add to the speculation. I bet Clooney is already scripting out Syriana II.

Corvette
07-11-2008, 01:30 AM
Nikkei down 0.21% :worried:
AORD up 0.94% :)

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-11-2008, 02:10 AM
early EAFE estimate up +$0.0812
plus FV Friday (previous) of =+$0.0000 = +$0.0812

Corvette
07-11-2008, 05:32 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.1238
plus FV Friday (previous) = -$0.1238

dollar down 0.05%

Corvette
07-11-2008, 11:28 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.2496
plus FV Friday (previous) of $0.0000 = -$0.2496

dollar down 0.66%

Corvette
07-11-2008, 01:47 PM
EAFE final down -$0.2408
plus FV Friday (previous) of $0.0000 = -$0.2408

12%ayear
07-11-2008, 02:56 PM
+fv coming

12%ayear
07-11-2008, 04:32 PM
+fv coming
oops

Corvette
07-11-2008, 06:36 PM
EAFE final down -$0.2408
plus FV Friday (previous) of $0.0000 = -$0.2408
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0030 = -$0.2378 final :worried:

Corvette
07-11-2008, 06:42 PM
21.0751


This is a new low for 2008 :worried:


woe is me

Corvette
07-11-2008, 07:05 PM
G fund 12.5236 up .0013
F fund 12.1146 down .0659
C fund 14.1447 down .1575
S fund 17.5750 down .0219
I fund 21.0751 down .2378 :worried:

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.0000

Corvette
07-14-2008, 02:45 AM
Nikkei down 0.23% :worried:
AORD down 1.18% :worried:


FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-14-2008, 02:53 AM
early EAFE estimate up +$0.0866
plus FV Monday (previous) of $0.0000 = +$0.0866

dollar up 0.38%

Corvette
07-14-2008, 11:01 AM
EAFE estimate up +$0.0533
plus FV Monday (previous) of $0.0000 = +$0.0533

dollar up 0.14%

Corvette
07-14-2008, 12:34 PM
EAFE estimate up +$0.0386
plus FV Monday (previous) of $0.0000 = +$0.386

dollar down 0.02%

Corvette
07-14-2008, 05:33 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0385
plus FV Monday (previous) of $0.0000 = +$0.385
minus FV Monday (guess) of $0.1200 = -$0.0815

Corvette
07-14-2008, 06:32 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0385
plus FV Monday (previous) of $0.0000 = +$0.385
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0003 = +$0.388 final :)

GGal
07-14-2008, 08:23 PM
Yeahhhhh!

McDuck
07-14-2008, 08:34 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0385
plus FV Monday (previous) of $0.0000 = +$0.385
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0003 = +$0.388 final :)

It went up 3 cents (plus some change), not 38 cents.

Corvette
07-14-2008, 09:44 PM
It went up 3 cents (plus some change), not 38 cents.

oops sorry, dropped a zero

EAFE final up +$0.0385
plus FV Monday (previous) of $0.0000 = +$0.0385
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0003 = +$0.0388 final :)

Corvette
07-15-2008, 01:37 AM
Nikkei down 1.96% :worried:
AORD down 1.95% :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.0000

McDuck
07-15-2008, 05:30 AM
DOW futures at 10935

Corvette
07-15-2008, 10:22 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.3475
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of $0.0000 = -$0.3475

dollar down 0.68%
Europe down about 2%
Dollar appears to be near a new low.

Corvette
07-15-2008, 01:27 PM
EAFE estimate down -$0.3045
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of $0.0000 = -$0.3045

dollar down 0.33%

Corvette
07-15-2008, 05:49 PM
EAFE final down -$0.3040
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of $0.0000 = -$0.3040

Corvette
07-15-2008, 06:34 PM
EAFE final down -$0.3040
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of $0.0000 = -$0.3040
minus FV Tuesday of -$0.1415 = -$0.4455 final :worried:

McDuck
07-15-2008, 07:21 PM
EAFE final down -$0.3040
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of $0.0000 = -$0.3040
minus FV Tuesday of -$0.1415 = -$0.4455 final :worried:

I don't see why there was a - FV.

Birchtree
07-15-2008, 07:59 PM
The Dow was down 92 points.

Corvette
07-15-2008, 08:01 PM
I don't see why there was a - FV.

I do not see a reason for a -FV either.

The market was down a lot early in the morning. If a lot of folks got out of the I fund, perhaps Barclays is giving then a lower price by giving a -FV.

Less for us more for them. :(

McDuck
07-15-2008, 08:26 PM
The Dow was down 92 points.

That's not it. The Dow closed the same or slightly higher than where it was at 1130.

Corvette
07-16-2008, 01:39 AM
Nikkei up 0.05% :)
AORD up 0.76% :)

FV for Wednesday (previous)= +$0.1415

Corvette
07-16-2008, 01:52 AM
G fund 12.5290 up .0013
F fund 12.1697 up .0135
C fund 13.8650 down .1526
S fund 17.2346 down .1482
I fund 20.6684 down .4455 :worried:

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.1415

Corvette
07-16-2008, 02:13 AM
early EAFE estimate down -$0.0316
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of $0.1415 = +$0.1099

luv2read
07-16-2008, 10:16 AM
I do not see a reason for a -FV either.

The market was down a lot early in the morning. If a lot of folks got out of the I fund, perhaps Barclays is giving then a lower price by giving a -FV.

Less for us more for them. :(See here why:
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=171480&postcount=691

Braveheart
07-16-2008, 10:34 AM
See here why:
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=171480&postcount=691


IS TODAY A GOOD DAY TO MOVE TO I FUND - THOUGHTS HAVE 15 MINUTES

THX - Braveheart

Corvette
07-16-2008, 11:39 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.0334
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of $0.1415 =+$0.1081

Corvette
07-16-2008, 11:46 AM
IS TODAY A GOOD DAY TO MOVE TO I FUND - THOUGHTS HAVE 15 MINUTES

THX - Braveheart

The I fund price is low and at a bargain price.

It depends on your situation and how much you are going to buy.

I have no easy way to increase funds in my TSP account. I can only transfer money into the I fund from the G fund.

I will wait for a lower price to buy more.

12%ayear
07-16-2008, 02:25 PM
I FUND is a friggin bargain at these low levels.

Frixxxx
07-16-2008, 02:31 PM
I FUND is a friggin bargain at these low levels.

Wait until you see the bottom!:blink:

I can see the vultures circling now!!!!!!:cool:

fedgolfer
07-16-2008, 02:32 PM
I FUND is a friggin bargain at these low levels.

agreed, but so is the Dollar, and that appears to be getting buying interest as oil is falling.

12%ayear
07-16-2008, 02:46 PM
Yes the US DOLLAR will bounce;however the returns from OSMs will be bigger and more powerful. Everyone is so bearish, this tells me to stay fully invested in the I FUND.

Corvette
07-16-2008, 05:57 PM
EAFE final down -$0.0599
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of $0.1415 =+$0.0816
plus FV Wednesday (guess) of $0.1400 = +$0.2216

Corvette
07-16-2008, 06:25 PM
EAFE final down -$0.0599
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of $0.1415 =+$0.0816
plus FV Wednesday of $0.2334 = +$0.3150 final :)

Braveheart
07-16-2008, 06:33 PM
The I fund price is low and at a bargain price.

It depends on your situation and how much you are going to buy.

I have no easy way to increase funds in my TSP account. I can only transfer money into the I fund from the G fund.

I will wait for a lower price to buy more.

THX - I held off have 2 IFT's I think today was a fluke and tomorrow reality will set in. On the next dip I am going to make a move to the I.

Corvette
07-17-2008, 01:00 AM
G fund 12.5304 up .0014
F fund 12.1026 down .0671
C fund 14.2141 up .3491
S fund 17.7023 up .4467
I fund 20.9834 up .3150 :)

FV for Thursday (previous) = -$0.2334

Corvette
07-17-2008, 01:20 AM
THX - I held off have 2 IFT's I think today was a fluke and tomorrow reality will set in. On the next dip I am going to make a move to the I.

Today had a double FV of about $0.37. This is a lot to overcome. You probably lucked out by not buying today.

Corvette
07-17-2008, 01:29 AM
Nikkei up 1.18% :)
AORD up 0.60% :)

FV for Thursday (previous) = -$0.2334

12%ayear
07-17-2008, 03:56 AM
Today had a double FV of about $0.37. This is a lot to overcome. You probably lucked out by not buying today.
-$0.2334 not $0.37 -fv for Thursday. THE I FUND IS UP 4 cents at this moment for Thursday.:)

Braveheart
07-17-2008, 05:29 AM
-$0.2334 not $0.37 -fv for Thursday. THE I FUND IS UP 4 cents at this moment for Thursday.:)

Waiting for todays reports when they lower the boom. I usually don't buy on a Thursday for Friday because many sell off in fear of what will happen next but in this case if the market is down today I am in the I Fund. I don't trust the financials that have killed the C Fund this year.

THX - Braveheart

12%ayear
07-17-2008, 05:48 AM
+.34-.24 fv= +.10 cents profit so far today:)

12%ayear
07-17-2008, 05:49 AM
Waiting for todays reports when they lower the boom. I usually don't buy on a Thursday for Friday because many sell off in fear of what will happen next but in this case if the market is down today I am in the I Fund. I don't trust the financials that have killed the C Fund this year.

THX - Braveheart
I jumped in the I fund yesterday for today. Everyone is so bearish. Remember the herd is always wrong. Love this kind of market. The sky is falling. Not you I am talking about, when I say everyone, I mean CNBC and company.

12%ayear
07-17-2008, 09:07 AM
09:55 ....+$0.45630-$0.2334 =:)

Corvette
07-17-2008, 10:19 AM
-$0.2334 not $0.37 -fv for Thursday. THE I FUND IS UP 4 cents at this moment for Thursday.:)

Correct. What is your point?

Yesterday had 2 +FV. Today has 1 -FV so far.

Corvette
07-17-2008, 10:22 AM
EAFE estimate up +$0.4828
plus FV Thursday (previous) of -$0.2334 =+$0.2494

12%ayear
07-17-2008, 10:25 AM
Correct. What is your point?

Yesterday had 2 +FV. Today has 1 -FV so far.
Just wanted to make it clear for everyone who thought we were dealing with a -37 cents fv. There will be no additional -fv today IMO. Watch for a rally.

Ric
07-17-2008, 11:12 AM
When to jump in... ??? It's really really low right now.

I'm really antsy here. I moved to f when the I fund dropped to around 22.00 or so. Now would give me a chance to buy in for a bit to make a recovery.

Anybody jumping ?

luv2read
07-17-2008, 11:25 AM
day before yesterday was even better.;)

Corvette
07-17-2008, 01:25 PM
EAFE estimate up +$0.5014
plus FV Thursday (previous) of -$0.2334 =+$0.2680


It looks like the I-train is on track again. :)

Braveheart
07-17-2008, 02:27 PM
I jumped in the I fund yesterday for today. Everyone is so bearish. Remember the herd is always wrong. Love this kind of market. The sky is falling. Not you I am talking about, when I say everyone, I mean CNBC and company.

If you heard a very loud F U C * at about 9:30 AM EST that was me. Sorry if the kids heard it.

12%ayear
07-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Nikkeii will explode today. Yen is also oversold.

12%ayear
07-17-2008, 03:13 PM
Just wanted to make it clear for everyone who thought we were dealing with a -37 cents fv. There will be no additional -fv today IMO. Watch for a rally.
rally:D:D:D

luv2read
07-17-2008, 03:49 PM
Braveheart don't worry. You will get another opportunity before the end of the month, in fact, post opex week is typically weak.

Corvette
07-17-2008, 05:17 PM
EAFE final up +$0.4994
plus FV Thursday (previous) of -$0.2334 =+$0.2660

Corvette
07-17-2008, 06:24 PM
EAFE final up +$0.4994
plus FV Thursday (previous) of -$0.2334 =+$0.2660
minus mystery money or round down of -$0.0083 = +$0.2577 final :)

Braveheart
07-17-2008, 07:05 PM
Braveheart don't worry. You will get another opportunity before the end of the month, in fact, post opex week is typically weak.

Thanks I feel better already. LoL - I did an IFT to the F Fund which sounds crazy but since it dropped to $12.01 that is a good entry point. If I make 2 cents between now and the end of the month I beat the G Fund.

I am looking to get in an the Google & Microsoft report should put people on notice this rally may end as soon as tomorrow even if Oil is down. I look for the Crooks as Robo calls them to sell of the Financials immediately and take that quick profit and then move right over to Oil. The same crooks that pushed the market up will drag it Down.

Corvette
07-18-2008, 03:45 AM
Nikkei down 0.65% :worried:
AORD down 1.25% :worried:

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-18-2008, 03:51 AM
early EAFE estimate of down -$0.1933
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1933

Corvette
07-18-2008, 11:22 AM
EAFE estimate of up +$0.0884
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0884

Corvette
07-18-2008, 03:15 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0869
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0869

Corvette
07-18-2008, 06:41 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0869
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0869
minus mystery money or rounding down of -$0.0014 = +$0.0855 final :)

Corvette
07-18-2008, 11:17 PM
G fund 12.5331 up .0014
F fund 12.9760 down .0417
C fund 14.3903 up .0048
S fund 17.8625 down .0246
I fund 20.3266 up .0855 :)

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.0000

Guest2
07-19-2008, 03:04 AM
g fund 12.5331 up .0014
f fund 12.9760 down .0417
c fund 14.3903 up .0048
s fund 17.8625 down .0246
i fund 20.3266 up .0855 :)

fv for monday (previous) = +$0.0000




:) just want you to know corvette, i read your updates daily :)
and appreciate the time you spend on keeping us informed
:)

Corvette
07-21-2008, 01:38 AM
:) just want you to know corvette, i read your updates daily :)




and appreciate the time you spend on keeping us informed


:)



anytime

I just hope the I fund goes up so I can make a few bucks.

Guest2
07-21-2008, 01:56 AM
I'm pulling for you !:D

Corvette
07-21-2008, 11:10 AM
EAFE estimate up +$0.1904
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.1940

dollar down 0.12%

Corvette
07-21-2008, 11:52 AM
EAFE estimate up +$0.1676
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.1676

dollar down 0.17%

Corvette
07-21-2008, 05:13 PM
EAFE final up +$0.1676
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.1676

Corvette
07-21-2008, 06:35 PM
EAFE final up +$0.1676
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 =+$0.1676
plus FV Monday of +$0.1127 = +$0.2803 final :)


i saw the late dollar drop. It appears Barclays decided on a +FV.

Corvette
07-21-2008, 08:56 PM
G fund 12.5371 up .0040
F fund 11.9905 up .0145
C fund 14.3830 down .0073
S fund 18.0370 up .1745
I fund 21.6069 up .2803 :)

FV for Tuesday (previous) = -$0.1127

Corvette
07-22-2008, 01:57 AM
Nikkei up 2.98% :)
AORD up 0.01% :)

looking good

FV for Tuesday (previous)= -$0.1127

Corvette
07-22-2008, 02:09 AM
early EAFE estimate up +$0.0867
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of -$0.1127 = -$0.0260

Corvette
07-22-2008, 10:33 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.0248
minus FV Tuesday (previous) of -$0.1127 = -$0.1375

Corvette
07-22-2008, 12:09 PM
EAFE estimate up +$0.0274
minus FV Tuesday (previous) of -$0.1127 = -$0.0853

12%ayear
07-22-2008, 02:39 PM
+FV coming:D

Corvette
07-22-2008, 03:27 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0274
minus FV Tuesday (previous) of -$0.1127 = -$0.0853
plus FV Tuesday (guess) of +$0.1200 = +$0.0347

Corvette
07-22-2008, 03:29 PM
+FV coming:D

difficult call.

Dollar is up late.

I will still agree with you.

12%ayear
07-22-2008, 04:54 PM
Feels like a +20 cents or more fv

RPM
07-22-2008, 06:29 PM
Feels like a +20 cents or more fv

No + FV for today. Final price today.

C: $14.5770 S: $18.2942 I: $21.5255

Corvette
07-22-2008, 07:02 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0274
minus FV Tuesday (previous) of -$0.1127 = -$0.0853
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.039 = -$0.0814 final :worried:

Corvette
07-22-2008, 07:06 PM
Feels like a +20 cents or more fv

folks that sold the I fund today got robbed :mad:

ATCJeff
07-22-2008, 07:26 PM
folks that sold the I fund today got robbed :mad:

Why? The dollar was up huge.

Corvette
07-23-2008, 01:42 AM
Why? The dollar was up huge.

usually the dollar rate is included in the EAFE price except for the late part of the day.

The rise was done mostly before 12:00.

It appears that that the huge dollar increase of almost 1% prevented a +FV.

After further analysis, no FV is reasonable.

Corvette
07-23-2008, 01:43 AM
Nikkei up 0.97% :)
AORD up 1.69% :)

FV for Wednesday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-23-2008, 11:14 AM
EAFE estimate of up +$0.2366
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2366

12%ayear
07-23-2008, 11:21 AM
folks that sold the I fund today got robbed :mad:
Barclay screwed everyone yesterday on that+fv. However; I held my postion inthe I FUND and will maybe sell it on Thursday.

Corvette
07-23-2008, 06:16 PM
EAFE final up +$0.2105
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2105

Corvette
07-23-2008, 06:25 PM
EAFE final up +$0.2105
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.2105
minus mystery money or rounding down of -$0.0023 = +$0.2082 final :)

Corvette
07-24-2008, 02:21 AM
Nikkei up 2.18% :)
AORD up 0.52% :)

FV for Thursday (previous)= +$0.0000

I fund is looking good!

Corvette
07-24-2008, 02:27 AM
early EAFE estimate of up +$0.1321
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.1321

Corvette
07-24-2008, 10:28 AM
EAFE estimate of down -$0.1719
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1719

Corvette
07-24-2008, 04:07 PM
EAFE final down -$0.1395
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1395
minus FV Thursday (guess) of -$0.2400 = -$0.3795

Corvette
07-24-2008, 06:28 PM
EAFE final down -$0.1395
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.1395
minus FV Thursday of -$0.1586 = -$0.2981 final :worried:

Corvette
07-24-2008, 11:42 PM
Asia is getting hammered today.

Woe is me. :worried:

Corvette
07-25-2008, 01:48 AM
Nikkei down 1.97% :worried:
AORD down 3.03% :worried:

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.1586

Corvette
07-25-2008, 10:48 AM
EAFE estimate of down -$0.2158
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1586 = -$0.0572

Frixxxx
07-25-2008, 10:49 AM
EAFE estimate of down -$0.2158
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1586 = -$0.0572

Today is my buy day, I hate it being down, but I love to get in on the cheap.:cool:

Corvette
07-25-2008, 06:49 PM
EAFE final of down -$0.2253
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.1586 = -$0.0667
minus mystery money or rounding down of -$0.0017 = -$0.0684 final :worried:

Corvette
07-26-2008, 06:32 PM
G fund 12.5425 up .0013
F fund 11.9919 down .0623
C fund 14.3578 up .0593
S fund 17.9429 up .1464
I fund 21.3672 down .0684 :worried:

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.0000

Corvette
07-28-2008, 02:09 AM
Nikkei up 0.14% :)
AORD down 0.82% :worried:

FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.0000

Corvette
07-28-2008, 11:51 AM
EAFE estimate down -$0.0833
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0833

ATCJeff
07-28-2008, 02:02 PM
Look for a -FV today. I see no rebound in the next hour.:(

Corvette
07-28-2008, 05:00 PM
EAFE final down -$0.0833
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0833
minus FV Monday (guess) of -$0.1200 = $0.2033

Corvette
07-28-2008, 07:08 PM
EAFE final down -$0.0833
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.0000 = -$0.0833
minus FV Monday of -$0.1696 = $0.2529 final :worried:

Corvette
07-29-2008, 01:18 AM
Nikkei down 1.61% :worried:
AORD down 1.33% :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.1696

Corvette
07-29-2008, 02:18 AM
early EAFE estimate down -$0.2190
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1696 = -$0.0494

Corvette
07-29-2008, 12:08 PM
EAFE estimate down -$0.2234
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1696 = -$0.0538

Corvette
07-29-2008, 04:55 PM
EAFE final down -$0.2234
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1696 = -$0.0538
plus FV Tuesday (guess) of +$0.1600 = +$0.1062

ATCJeff
07-29-2008, 05:00 PM
EAFE final down -$0.2234
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1696 = -$0.0538
plus FV Tuesday (guess) of +$0.1600 = +$0.1062

16 cents? I dunno if it will be that high. I figure 0 or 10 cents.

Corvette
07-29-2008, 06:03 PM
16 cents? I dunno if it will be that high. I figure 0 or 10 cents.

You could be correct. The dollar did move up 0.8%. I think this is included in the EAFE price.

stay tune

Corvette
07-29-2008, 06:31 PM
EAFE final down -$0.2234
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.1696 = -$0.0538
plus FV Tuesday of +$0.1983 = +$0.1445 final :)

Corvette
07-30-2008, 02:40 AM
Nikkei up 1.58% :)
AORD up 1.73% :)

FV for Wednesday (previous)= -$0.1983

Corvette
07-30-2008, 03:18 AM
early EAFE estimate up +$0.2538
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1983 = +$0.0555

Corvette
07-30-2008, 11:44 AM
EAFE estimate up +$0.3057
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1983 = +$0.1074

Corvette
07-30-2008, 05:48 PM
EAFE final up +$0.2896
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1983 = +$0.0913

Corvette
07-30-2008, 07:01 PM
EAFE final up +$0.2896
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.1983 = +$0.0913
plus FV Wednesday of +$0.1639 = +$0.2552 final :)

Corvette
07-31-2008, 03:25 AM
Nikkei up 0.07% :)
AORD up 0.88% :)

FV for Thursday (previous) = -$0.1639

Corvette
07-31-2008, 03:29 AM
early EAFE estimate up +$0.0310
minus FV Thursday (previous) of -$0.1639 = -$0.1329

Corvette
07-31-2008, 10:30 AM
EAFE estimate up +$0.0727
minus FV Thursday (previous) of -$0.1639 = -$0.0912

Corvette
07-31-2008, 05:38 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0409
minus FV Thursday (previous) of -$0.1639 = -$0.1230

Corvette
07-31-2008, 06:56 PM
EAFE final up +$0.0409
minus FV Thursday (previous) of -$0.1639 = -$0.1230
minus FV Thursday of -$0.1234 = -$02464 final :worried:

Corvette
08-01-2008, 01:48 AM
Nikkei down 2.11% :worried:
AORD down 1.48% :worried:

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.1234