I fund for June 08

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 0.71% :)
AORD up 0.13% :)

FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.00

[James48843]

Europe getting slapped hard this morning.

CAC, DAX, FSTE all down over 1%.

Hard day for I.

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.09
minus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.00= -$0.09
minus FV for Monday (guess) of -$0.12 = -$0.21

dollar is down -0.04%

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.08
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.00= -$0.08 final :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.47 up .01
F fund 12.13 up .04
C fund 15.77 down .16
S fund 19.64 down .14
I fund 23.97 down .08 :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 1.60% :worried:
AORD down 1.35% :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.07
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.00= -$0.07

dollar up 0.56%

[sugarandspice]

down 20 cents today. Its official!

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.07
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.00= -$0.07
minus FV Tuesday of -$0.13 = -$0.20 final :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.47 push
F fund 12.16 up .03
C fund 15.68 down .09
S fund 19.62 down .02
I fund 23.77 down .20 :worried:

FV for Wednesday (previous) = +$0.13

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 1.59% :)
AORD down 0.08% :worried:

FV for Wednesday (previous) = +$0.13

[James48843]

HUGE downside in Europe overnight. Everything down over 1%, some down 2%.

[Frixxxx]

I think its a sideways day for the I fund today....Which means we'll probably get an FV tonight:suspicious:

[airlift]

With Bernanke, Paulson, and perhaps the G7 nations talking about supporting a strong dollar as the reserve currency standard, can someone analize whether the I fund is a better choice than the C fund if a bounce is to be played?

[Silverbird]

With Bernanke, Paulson, and perhaps the G7 nations talking about supporting a strong dollar as the reserve currency standard, can someone analize whether the I fund is a better choice than the C fund if a bounce is to be played?I'll believe Paulson when he actually does something to support the dollar, he's being saying he supports a strong dollar ever since he came into office. Berneke has been lowering interest rates, which causes the dollar to get weaker - though I do understand what he was trying to do. If there actually is some movement by Paulson or Beneke (and/or others in the Administration) and the G7 to reach this goal, then it would be easier to see what the effects on C and I would be, depending on the policy.

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.12
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.13= +$0.01

[sugarandspice]

Corvette,

Just wanted to say thanks for keeping the estimate/FV situation updated in a timely manner. I really do appreciate it.

[Frixxxx]

EAFE estimate down -$0.12
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.13= +$0.01


I think its a sideways day for the I fund today....Which means we'll probably get an FV tonight:suspicious:

Wish I could call them like that everyday!:cool:

[sugarandspice]

Down 10 cents today.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.12
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.13= +$0.01
minus FV Wednesday of -$0.11 = -$0.10 final :worried:

late dollar increase may be the reason for the -$0.11 FV

[Corvette]

G fund 12.47 push
F fund 12.13 down .03
C fund 15.68 push
S fund 19.65 up .03
I fund 23.67 down .10 :worried:

FV for Thursday (previous) = +$0.11

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.65% :worried:
AORD down 1.13% :worried:

FV for Thursday (previous) = +$0.11

[MR_BOOOOM]

Anyone going to the I for tomorrow hoping for a due POP in Japan ? I am currently 100% C

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.01
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.11= +$0.10
plus FV Thursday (guess) of +$0.12 = +$0.22

[Corvette]

Anyone going to the I for tomorrow hoping for a due POP in Japan ? I am currently 100% C

It will be difficult to beat the FV today. It could be 2 FVs.

[roskopfm]

I just moved to 80% I and 20% S

[sugarandspice]

If they apply another +FV today you could be in for a bad day with that move in to the I. It all depends on what "they" do.

[12%ayear]

Major +fv coming. Stayed away from this because of the possible ++FV coming. I Fund looks great for Monday. US DOLLAR will bounce off the unemployment report causing the I Fund to drop Friday. Too risky for tomorrow. Great for Monday.

[Aviator_Guy]

It will be difficult to beat the FV today. It could be 2 FVs.

If it holds, this will be huge! :cool::cool:

[MR_BOOOOM]

Decided to stay 100% C. Stopped doing IFT's to the I but, every once and awhile I get that itch. Luckily I remebered how many times I have been on the wrong end of the FV's.


If it holds, this will be huge! :cool::cool:

[fedgolfer]

If it holds, this will be huge! :cool::cool:

plus that pop in oil and subsequent added sell-off in the dollar post cutoff. I'm starting to feel like the +2% in the s-fund will be easily surpassed!!!!!

[sugarandspice]

Plus 40 cents! Thats nice.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.03
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.11= +$0.08
plus FV Thursday of +$0.32 = +$0.40 :) final

[12%ayear]

Major +fv coming. Stayed away from this because of the possible ++FV coming. I Fund looks great for Monday. US DOLLAR will bounce off the unemployment report causing the I Fund to drop Friday. Too risky for tomorrow. Great for Monday.
wow!! +.32 cents or about +1.30%. Too rich for me. Monday looks great to enter.

[McDuck]

Monday looks great to enter.

Why? Do you expect the markets to go down on Friday and Monday?

[Corvette]

G fund 12.47 push
F fund 12.09 down .04
C fund 15.98 up .30
S fund 20.08 up .43
I fund 24.07 up .40 :)

FV for Friday (previous) = -$0.32

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 1.03% :)
AORD up 1.02% :)


FV for Friday (previous)= -$0.32

[12%ayear]

Why? Do you expect the markets to go down on Friday and Monday?
I expect the USMs to do well,however that +.32 FV will not allow the I Fund to go postive. Also, I feel the USD will bounce on a very good unemployment report. As I am typing this the I FUND is -.60. and the C Fund is +.06. Looking for a nice bounce Monday for the I Fund off a good report today. Using my 2nd EFT from C FUND to The I Fund. GL

[buda]

I expect the USMs to do well,however that +.32 FV will not allow the I Fund to go postive. Also, I feel the USD will bounce on a very good unemployment report. As I am typing this the I FUND is -.60. and the C Fund is +.06. Looking for a nice bounce Monday for the I Fund off a good report today. Using my 2nd EFT from C FUND to The I Fund. GL

Hey 12 with the unemplyment report going the other way are you still moving into the I?

Anyone else have a take....

Barclays can chime in also...if you'd like.:toung:

buda

[Corvette]

Hey 12 with the unemplyment report going the other way are you still moving into the I?

Anyone else have a take....

Barclays can chime in also...if you'd like.:toung:

buda

It might be a good day to jump in for traders.
There should be 2 -FVs today.

[wv-girl]

It might be a good day to jump in for traders.
There should be 2 -FVs today.
Why 2? The $ has dropped. And tsplookup puts at 0 gain/loss(except for previous -FV). Please don't say we need to drop another 100 points after noon. Isn't 269 point enough? Boy,lets hope so.

:confused:

[Braveheart]

It might be a good day to jump in for traders.
There should be 2 -FVs today.

Not sure 2 -FVs today in 1 day ??? I have 10 minutes to make a move I like the I Fund the FV always kills me so what are we looking at for Monday possibly.

Any replys will help !!!



THX Braveheart

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.00
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.32
minus FV Friday (guess) of -$0.23 = -$0.55

[Braveheart]

EAFE estimate down -$0.00
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.32
minus FV Friday (guess) of -$0.23 = -$0.55


OK Thank you

[luv2read]

EAFE estimate down -$0.00
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.32
minus FV Friday (guess) of -$0.23 = -$0.55
So we're looking at a final I fund price of $23.52 after COB today?

[Corvette]

So we're looking at a final I fund price of $23.52 after COB today?

The final price could be more.

The dollar is down .89% right now and the market is moving up.

[Birchtree]

Those that are sitting 100% I fund get their finger tips toasted today. It's all in the game for quicker profits - sometimes you gotta give back a little.

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.02
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.34
minus FV Friday (guess) of -$0.26 = -$0.60

dollar down 0.88%

[Frixxxx]

EAFE estimate down -$0.02
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.34
minus FV Friday (guess) of -$0.26 = -$0.60

dollar down 0.88%


Those that are sitting 100% I fund get their finger tips toasted today. It's all in the game for quicker profits - sometimes you gotta give back a little.
I don't mind the little bits so much, but I hate giving back CHUNKS!!!:cool:

[wv-girl]

EAFE estimate down -$0.02
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.34
minus FV Friday (guess) of -$0.26 = -$0.60

dollar down 0.88%


Can you enlighten me? I a little cornfused! :blink:
The dollar, when it falls, (adds)gives us $
So wouldn't it be a +FV (if by itself)?
Since the USM have dropped so much after noon, wouldn't that drop plus the drop in the $ cancel each other out?

Thanks in advance. :blink:

[Frixxxx]

Can you enlighten me? I a little cornfused! :blink:
The dollar, when it falls, (adds)gives us $
So wouldn't it be a +FV (if by itself)?
Since the USM have dropped so much after noon, wouldn't that drop plus the drop in the $ cancel each other out?

Thanks in advance. :blink:
The dollar probably will affect the FV today, but then Corvette's just "estimating". Expect the worst and enjoy the best" - My Motto!:cool:

[wv-girl]

The dollar probably will affect the FV today, but then Corvette's just "estimating". Expect the worst and enjoy the best" - My Motto!:cool:


Thanks for answering Frixxxx. I was beginning to think everyone fell asleep. But then again it is Friday afternoon. You're right of course to expect the worst, but it doesn't help that pit in my stomach. Ya know the sinking one? Ratsofratz.

Have a good week-end.

[Frixxxx]

Thanks for answering Frixxxx. I was beginning to think everyone fell asleep. But then again it is Friday afternoon. You're right of course to expect the worst, but it doesn't help that pit in my stomach. Ya know the sinking one? Ratsofratz.

Have a good week-end.

I gave up watching the fund prices on a daily basis....This one's my gov't free money deal now. Since the IFT limitations are now in full effect, I play the currency market. I'm around 2% a day and climbing. Funny, when I started, 2% of 300 was 6...now my nights are closer to 3% and I'm making my initial investment in interest a night. I can't wait until my interest earned a night is the GDP of Uraguay!!!!:cool:

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.03
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.35
minus FV Friday (guess) of -$0.40 = -$0.75 :eek:

[buda]

EAFE final down -$0.03
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.35
minus FV Friday (guess) of -$0.40 = -$0.75 :eek:


hope the crystal ball is working cause that may look nice to some people and nightmarish to others.

[Frixxxx]

hope the crystal ball is working cause that may look nice to some people and nightmarish to others.
I'm not going back to sleep!:cool:

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.03
minus FV Friday (previous) of -$0.32= -$0.35
minus FV Friday of -$0.29 = -$0.64 final :eek:

[Timmie-O]

The dollar probably will affect the FV today, but then Corvette's just "estimating". Expect the worst and enjoy the best" - My Motto!:cool:

"Old boys have their playthings as well as young ones; the only difference is price." - Benjamin Franklin

This quote by Benjamin Franklin is new to me but has probably been around a few years. What playthings did they have in his day. :confused:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.47 push
F fund 12.12 up .03
C fund 15.49 down .49
S fund 19.57 down .51
I fund 23.43 down .64 :eek:

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.29

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 2.13% :)
AORD closed :cool:


FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.29

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.27
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.29= +$0.02

[luv2read]

Thanks! This is great timing!:)

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.25
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.29= +$0.04

dollar up + .60

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.25
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.29= +$0.04 :)

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.25
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.29= +$0.04
minus FV Monday of -$0.17 = -$0.13 :worried:

late dollar surge may be reason for -FV adjustment

[Frixxxx]

Yo' Corvette,

I'm near Riverside..I'd love to see your 'vette. I'd even sho you my Harley:nuts::toung::nuts:

[Corvette]

I'm near Riverside..I'd love to see your 'vette. I'd even sho you my Harley:nuts::toung::nuts:

Riverside is in the Inland Empire. It is real hot in Riverside. 110 is not uncommon in the summer.

Riding a motorcycle is an experience in Riverside. The air feels like a blast furnace in the summer on a bike.

Are you concerned with global warming? :rolleyes:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 1.13% :worried:
AORD down 2.58% :worried:

woe is me


FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.17

[Frixxxx]

Riverside is in the Inland Empire. It is real hot in Riverside. 110 is not uncommon in the summer.

Riding a motorcycle is an experience in Riverside. The air feels like a blast furnace in the summer on a bike.

Are you concerned with global warming? :rolleyes:
Fortunately, I live near the cows in Hemet. So most of my commute to Corona is relaxing and uneventful. Ride the Harley almost everyday, even the day of the tornado in Mo Val. If I didn't come from Ohio originally, I'd think global warming had hit the first day I moved here. But I KNOW, they still get tons of snow back there!!!!!:laugh:

Yes the market was bad for us, but I gained enough PIPs off the Yen, to pay for my brand spankin new washer last night.:cool:

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.55
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.17= -$0.38

dollar up + 0.99%

[wv-girl]

EAFE estimate down -$0.55
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.17= -$0.38

dollar up + 0.99%

Thanks for the estimates. Kinda look like mayyybee will get a small +fv cause of the usm? Whatdodyouthink? Please,please,please. :)

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.54
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.17= -$0.37 :worried:


dollar up 1.06%

[Corvette]

Thanks for the estimates. Kinda look like mayyybee will get a small +fv cause of the usm? Whatdodyouthink? Please,please,please. :)

Most of the dollar rise is included in the EAFE amount. Sometimes there is a large jump after they post the amount. This is often the surprise FV.

Not much movement in the dollar right now, although there is a slight uptrend.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.54
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.17= -$0.37
plus mystery money or rounding up of $0.01 = -$0.36 final :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.48 up .01
F fund 11.99 down .08
C fund 15.47 down .04
S fund 19.34down .13
I fund 22.94 down .36 :worried:

FV for Wednesday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 1.16% :)
AORD up 0.32% :)



FV for Wednesday (previous)= +$0.00

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.12
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.00= -$0.12

dollar down - 0.65%

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.15
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.00= -$0.15

dollar down - 0.51%

[sugarandspice]

Down 32 cents.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.15
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.00= -$0.15
minus FV Wednesday of -$0.17 = -$0.32 :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.48 push
F fund 12.03 up .04
C fund 15.21 down .26
S fund 19.02 down .32
I fund 22.62 down .32 :worried:

FV for Thursday (previous) = +$0.17

[Rustynutt]

Man, there sure are a lot of "ifs" there :)
Somehow though, I feel like a trout in a stream, unknowing and hungry.
Another 30 or 40 cents, and I may have to bite.

[Corvette]

Man, there sure are a lot of "ifs" there :)
Somehow though, I feel like a trout in a stream, unknowing and hungry.
Another 30 or 40 cents, and I may have to bite.

I will probably buy more soon also.

Waiting for the blue light special. :)

[Rustynutt]

I will probably buy more soon also.

Waiting for the blue light special. :)

Might have to reneg on the 30 to 40 cents however. Just did a SWAG, went to the TSP site, went back the number of years that I still have to retire, and wow, the I Fund really went up in that time span. I doubt it could drop that much, but who knows. Less than 5 years here, and since I dropped my investments to matching only, wouldn't mind making more than 3 or 4 cents a month the G fund is offering. Tried the F, barely got out ahead. C is out of the question. Small caps, well, depends on the next administration, and even if they do a stellar job, doubt California home prices will recover in 5 years (my other investment, might be even now, depends on the "buyer"). It's up to those across the Atlantic (and the input asia has) to carry us I fund believers into retirement (IMHO). Since I can't really afford to buy gold (not that I'd want to) the fiancee is going to let me "buy" her Euros when she gets here for holiday in July (avoiding exchange fees and such). I'd just as soon sit on that as anything else at this point since I'll be back over there before she can finally move here for good.

The excess that was going into the TSP, so far this year, has been invested into landscape trees. Figure it's about a 3 year investment, and kept the start up cost down to figure a 100% return. People that live in the desert like trees, especially ones that are already 6 foot tall. The tax benefits are not so bad either, but it is a lot of work. The Navy, city and builders (due to BRAC) are always looking for tid bits to decorate the SES's homes with :)

The remainder is going into assets, vintage motorcycle parts. Lots of items that haven't been seen in quite some time have become available as owners liquidate. Those are long term 10 to 12 years investments. It's hard to calculate the return, but I just figure it as income after retirement ( or inheritance for my son, which ever comes first).

Cash is getting pretty tight however working it this way. Fuel is cutting into the budget, but am pretty happy with the 26mpg my Cummins 2500 quad long bed got on last weekends 700 mile weekend trip. It beats the hell out of airline offerings :) Fuel in Topaz, Nv last weekend was $4.59, cheap by California standards. Being how the trip was to pick up a vintage motorcycle, getting the current 55 cents a mile back works out ok.

As far as food cost goes, my recently graduated son turned me on to GNC products. They have really put some energy back into this 52 two year old, and only cost about $45.00/month. The positive side effect has been appetite is down quite a bit, so smaller, lighter meals and more healthy stuff is going down the gob. Can't hurt to get health conscious this close to retirement.

Anyway, that's my "I" fund investment plan :) No one ever said life would be easy.

I'm still about 100 grand short of where I'd like to be in 5 years......

[Fivetears]

The Red Light special is all that's available at the moment.
Asia is completely red.
http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia

I will probably buy more soon also.

Waiting for the blue light special. :)

[Rustynutt]

It sure would seem so. It's a game of "whose got the money", and how well can they hide it during the next administration as far as the U.S. goes. They already know in Europe who has the money, they lent it to us :) Fortunately for them, they didn't have that much in the first place, and don't have to print dollars to support the U.S. economy. All they have to deal with is their own little puddle of mud, as expensive as it is. Sorry, a bit of emotion put into an off topic subject :)

[Corvette]

The Red Light special is all that's available at the moment.
Asia is completely red.
http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia

I must be sick. All I see is red.

woe is me :sick:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 2.08% :worried:
AORD down 2.31% :worried:

woe is me


FV for Thursday (previous)= +$0.17

[Guest2]

Looks like we're going on a Rice diet, like it or not. :nuts:

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.21
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.17= -$0.04

dollar up 0.90%

[ChemEng]

12:15 estimate: -0 cents from market change PLUS -FVC of +17 cents PLUS -21 cents from dollar change EQUALS -4 cents

[12%ayear]

looking like some -fv coming in today.

[Frixxxx]

Hopefully we can get a Green-on-Green day tomorrow.:cool:

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.21
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.17= -$0.04
minus mystery money or rounding down of $0.01 = $0.05 :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.48 push
F fund 11.95 down .08
C fund 15.26 up .05
S fund 19.04 up .02
I fund 22.57 down .05 :worried:

FV for Friday (previous) = +$0.00

[luv2read]

OK if anybody has any doubts about being forced into L funds via 2 IFT's, go look at the L funds for this week...today in particular.

[Fivetears]

Think I'm missing something L2R. They're all down.
http://www.tsp.gov/rates/share-prices.html
What are you seeing? :confused:

OK if anybody has any doubts about being forced into L funds via 2 IFT's, go look at the L funds for this week...today in particular.

[Corvette]

Think I'm missing something L2R. They're all down.
http://www.tsp.gov/rates/share-prices.html
What are you seeing? :confused:

L2040, L2030, and L2020 are up today. :blink:

down for the week so far? :worried:


Date.............. L 2040 L 2030 L 2020 L 2010 L INCOME

Jun 12, 2008.. 17.20... 16.58 ..16.02 ...15.22 ...13.45

Jun 11, 2008.. 17.19.... 16.57.... 16.01.... 15.22... 13.45

Jun 10, 2008...17.42... .16.76... 16.16..... 15.30... 13.49

Jun 09, 2008...17.53... 16.85.... 16.24..... 15.34... 13.51

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 0.61% :)
AORD up 0.85% :)


FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.00

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.06
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = +$0.06

dollar up 0.70%

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.05
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = +$0.05 :)

dollar up 0.66%

[12%ayear]

+FV coming for sure tonight

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.05
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = +$0.05
plus FV Friday (guess) of $0.13 = +$0.18

[12%ayear]

EAFE estimate up +$0.05
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = +$0.05
plus FV Friday (guess) of $0.13 = +$0.18
i think it will be much higher ...+18 cents Fv +5 cents=23 cents. Just my guess.:)

[Rustynutt]

Now how am I suppose to get back into the I fund when you guys keep boosting it up before the TSP post it? :)

[12%ayear]

EAFE estimate up +$0.05
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = +$0.05
plus FV Friday (guess) of $0.13 = +$0.18
great job

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.05
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = +$0.05
plus FV Friday final of $0.13 = +$0.18 final :)

[Corvette]

G fund 12.48 push
F fund 11.93 down .02
C fund 15.49 up .23
S fund 19.36 up .32
I fund 22.75 up .18 :)

FV for Monday (previous) = -$0.13

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 2.72% :)
AORD down 0.06% :worried:


FV for Monday (previous)= -$0.13

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.19
minus FV Monday (previous) of -$0.13 = +$0.06

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.20
minus FV Monday (previous) of -$0.13= +$0.07 final :)

[Corvette]

G fund 12.48 push
F fund 11.93 push
C fund 15.49 push
S fund 19.51 up .15
I fund 22.82 up .07 :)

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.04% :worried:
AORD up 0.91% :)


FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.00

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.15
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.00= +$0.15

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.17
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.00= +$0.17


dollar down 0.17%

[12%ayear]

+.15 $22.97 cob

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.14
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.00= +$0.14
plus mystery money or rounding up of $0.01 = +$0.15 final :)

[Corvette]

G fund 12.49 up .01
F fund 11.96 up .03
C fund 15.39 down .10
S fund 19.47 down .04
I fund 22.97 up .15 :)

FV for Wednesday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.19
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.19

dollar up 0.0%

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.17
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.17 final :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.49 push
F fund 12.02 up .06
C fund 15.24 down .15
S fund 19.31 down .16
I fund 22.80 down .17 :worried:

FV for Thursday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 2.23% :worried:
AORD down 1.19% :worried:

woe is me

FV for Thursday (previous)= +$0.00

[James48843]

Meltdown in Shanghei tonight- now showing down more than -5.63%.

And I'm holding shares in FXI in my playing account. Dang. Need to move it out to SDS and hang on -i just figured out we got a Hindenberg Omen this week-- Again.

bad news

(or good if you're out)

[Braveheart]

Meltdown in Shanghei tonight- now showing down more than -5.63%.

And I'm holding shares in FXI in my playing account. Dang. Need to move it out to SDS and hang on -i just figured out we got a Hindenberg Omen this week-- Again.

bad news

(or good if you're out)

http://bp3.blogger.com/_FiNhXIv5StE/SFj8NrK_3zI/AAAAAAAABtE/RaDfFSGG9xQ/s1600/HindenburgOmen.jpg


WELL THIS IS THE CHART I JUST PULLED - OMEN ?? DON'T KNOW BUT IS TODAY THE DAY OIL HITS $140+ AND THERE IS A MASSIVE SELLOFF

All I can say is Good Luck, be smart & God Bless

[Corvette]

Meltdown in Shanghei tonight- now showing down more than -5.63%.

The big dip in Shanghai could be good for us. China raised the price of gasoline 17%. Gas went from $2.80 a gallon to about $3.28 a gallon in China.

World oil prices are down right now. :cool:

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.18
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.18

dollar up 0.09%

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.25
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.25

dollar up 0.03%

[luv2read]

tomorrow/Monday might be good for the I fund.:nuts:

[RPM]

tomorrow/Monday might be good for the I fund.:nuts:


Any FV today? TIA

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.26
plus FV Thursday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.26 :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.49 push
F fund 11.99 down .03
C fund 15.30 up .06
S fund 19.40 up .09
I fund 22.54 down .26 :worried:

FV for Friday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 1.33% :worried:
AORD down 1.32% :worried:

woe is me

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.00

[Corvette]

tomorrow/Monday might be good for the I fund.:nuts:

Do you mean a blue light special for I-funders? :cool:

[Guest2]

Attention K-Mart shoppers, We have a Blue Light special down Isle 12.
For the next 4 hours (until noon) we have the (I) Fund at a very high
discount due to FV. This discount might disapear by 7:30pm tonight,
however, the chances are high you'll see a similar type discount on
Monday. Only one catch, Limits have made this a No Return, No Refund
opportunity. Good Luck !
:nuts:

[DoughBoy]

The I is low.
Howiever, with today promising to be volatile, the chance or a major FV on Monday is too great for me to risk it. Good Luck!

[luv2read]

SB,

with the bottom falling out ...I fund low today, and if it's low again on Monday - I find the high deficit last night VERY suspicious...like Barclays knew something in advance....

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.19
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.19

dollar down 0.63%

[Corvette]

SB,

with the bottom falling out ...I fund low today, and if it's low again on Monday - I find the high deficit last night VERY suspicious...like Barclays knew something in advance....

I agree.

I also noticed the discrepancy yesterday for a FV adjustment. There was enough of a discrepancy for a +FV adjustment, but it also looked like a good idea to have no +FV for Barclay.

The I- fund would be down over $0.30 today if the dollar was stable.

[Guest2]

If the (I) closes with no FV adjustment or deficit payback, its down at
12:56pm a whopping -0.44 tsp cents. I don't foresee a payback coming
of such magnitude. Maybe half, Maybe some, but not enough to offset
this very bearish day.

[XL-entLady]

If the (I) closes with no FV adjustment or deficit payback, its down at
12:56pm a whopping -0.44 tsp cents. I don't foresee a payback coming
of such magnitude. Maybe half, Maybe some, but not enough to offset
this very bearish day.

Thanks much for the update, SB. Maybe I'm glad I didn't have that extra IFT to go into I Fund after all. Right now my little G Fund penny is looking pretty good.:o I realize that I'm a chicklett, but it's getting to be dark scary cold world out there. I know a little about money, but I don't know enough to have exposure right now. I could get something I might NEED frozen off! Br-r-r-r-r!:worried:

Lady

[Corvette]

If the (I) closes with no FV adjustment or deficit payback, its down at
12:56pm a whopping -0.44 tsp cents. I don't foresee a payback coming
of such magnitude. Maybe half, Maybe some, but not enough to offset
this very bearish day.

Did you factor the dollar down 0.6%?

That would give a smaller down estimate.

[luv2read]

I haven't gone back to look it up, but we've lost over $1.00 in I fund in one day before after the FV etc.

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.19
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.19
minus FV for Friday (guess) of $0.12 = -$0.31


It is a little short of FV, but FV is now possible.


dollar down 0.57%

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.19
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.19
minus FV for Friday (guess) of $0.12 = -$0.31 :worried:


It is a little short for a FV, but FV is now possible.


dollar down 0.61%

[Rustynutt]

Wow.
Still a bit away from March 19th of this year.
Dollar can't tank that much more now, can it?
Might be time to go fishing soon.

"He can't go down with three barrels...not with three barrels on he can't"

[Corvette]

Wow.
Still a bit away from March 19th of this year.
Dollar can't tank that much more now, can it?
Might be time to go fishing soon.

"He can't go down with three barrels...not with three barrels on he can't"

Dollar is still up at 73 from a recent low of 71 during March.


http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=d6

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.19
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.00 = -$0.19
minus FV for Friday of $0.17 = -$0.36 final :worried:

[Guest2]

Did you factor the dollar down 0.6%?
That would give a smaller down estimate.

No Corvette, I don't factor in such things,,,,,FV,,,,Dollar. It's simply what
the EFA was calling for (in comparison to the I Fund) translated into TSP
cents.

[Rustynutt]

Dollar is still up at 73 from a recent low of 71 during March.


http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=d6

Yes, that's what I was thinking,,, if the FV's could be put off.
For Monday it's the thought of maybe loosing a penny from the G if a IFT is done.

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.61% :worried:
AORD down 0.05% :worried:


FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.17

[ChemEng]

9:56 estimate: -0 cents from market change PLUS -FVC of +17 cents PLUS -16 cents from dollar change EQUALS +1 cent

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.20
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.17 = -$0.03

dollar up 0.60%

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.22
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.17 = -$0.05

dollar up 0.51%

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.22
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.17 = -$0.05
plus mystery money or round up of $0.01 = -$0.04 final :worried:

[Corvette]

Anybody notice the new 4 decimal format? :worried:

[Corvette]

G fund 12.4900 push
F fund 11.9900 down .0300
C fund 15.0200 push
S fund 18.9800 down .1200
I fund 22.1400 down .0400 :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.00

[MR_BOOOOM]

Anybody notice the new 4 decimal format? :worried:

Strange. All the figures ended in "00". Typo maybe ?:confused:

[frokker]

Strange. All the figures ended in "00". Typo maybe ?:confused:

No typo. Right there above the prices it says

"Note: Beginning with share prices for July 1, 2008, the TSP will display share prices to four decimal places."


I wonder if that means the "G" will pay more often? Instead of 1 penny every 5 or 6 days, they might give .25 or .50.

[Corvette]

No typo. Right there above the prices it says

"Note: Beginning with share prices for July 1, 2008, the TSP will display share prices to four decimal places."

I wonder if that means the "G" will pay more often? Instead of 1 penny every 5 or 6 days, they might give .25 or .50.

If they pay about 0.002 everyday on the G-fund, people will not be able to catch the G-fund when it goes up a penny.

All of the folks that try to catch the penny on the G-fund will be SOL.

It is getting hard to make a buck. :worried:

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.06% :worried:
AORD up 0.18% :)


FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Guest2]

If they pay about 0.002 everyday on the G-fund, people will not be able to catch the G-fund when it goes up a penny. All of the folks that try to catch the penny on the G-fund will be SOL. It is getting hard to make a buck. :worried:

Daily valuation of the (G) Fund,,,,,hmmmmm,,,,, I see what you mean !

[luv2read]

see here for why.

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=169003&postcount=7

[Guest2]

Thanks L2R,,,,,ur the best ! ;)

[Braveheart]

Wow is this a suckers rally right now we were just down 100 points to down 12.

[Braveheart]

Wow is this a suckers rally right now we were just down 100 points to down 12.

Wow now GREEN what a joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.01
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0100

dollar down 0.33%

[Silverbird]

Wait till around 2:00pm if the last few days are an indication. Those guys puffing up the market will get tired around then.:sick:

[Corvette]

Wow now GREEN what a joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was thinking of buying more in the I-fund today. I passed.

Waiting for the pop or drop.

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.01
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0100

dollar down 0.25%

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.01
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0100
plus mystery money or rounding up of +$0.0100 = +$0.0200 final :)

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5000 up .0100
F fund 12.0200 up .0300
C fund 14.9700 down .0500
S fund 18.7300 down .2500
I fund 22.1600 up .0200 :)

FV for Wednesday (previous) = +$0.00

They went back to 2 decimal places.

[Guest2]

they Went Back To 2 Decimal Places.

UNTIL July 1st ;)

[Corvette]

UNTIL July 1st ;)

I know. I will just leave the information to 4 digits.

The FV to 4 digits is going to fun :rolleyes:

woe is me

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.14% :worried:
AORD down 1.04% :worried:

FV for Wednesday (previous)= +$0.0000

[luv2read]

They went back to 2 decimal places.


UNTIL July 1st ;)LMAO!:laugh:

They glitched the sheet for one day and displayed 4 places. Wonder how much that costs us - glitch, unglitch, then put it back to 4 decimals for 7/1. And I wonder if that's going to be in the minutes? Keep wasting our money, FRTIB!:nuts:

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.09
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.0900

dollar up 0.05%

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.10
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.1000
plus FV Wednesday (guess) of +$0.13 = +$0.2300

dollar down 0.30%

[Frixxxx]

LMAO!:laugh:

Keep wasting our money, FRTIB!:nuts:

Amen Sister!!!! Amen!!!!:cool:

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.10
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.1000
plus FV Wednesday of +$0.1500 = +$0.2500 final :)

[RPM]

EAFE final up +$0.10
plus FV Wednesday (previous) of +$0.0000 = +$0.1000
plus FV Wednesday of +$0.1500 = +$0.2500 final :)

Why is there a +FV? All the US markets closed at below the level at noonish :confused:

[Corvette]

Why is there a +FV? All the US markets closed at below the level at noonish :confused:

Althought the market dropped later in the day, the dollar also dropped about 0.55% late in the day to warrant a FV.

The late dollar drop was enought for the FV.

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5000 push
F fund 12.0200 push
C fund 15.0600 up .0900
S fund 18.8700 up .1400
I fund 22.4100 up .2500 :)

FV for Thursday (previous) = -$0.1500

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.05% :worried:
AORD down 1.09% :worried:


FV for Thursday (previous) = -$0.1500

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.15
minus FV Thursday (previous) of = -$0.1500 = -$0.3000
minus FV Thursday (guess) of = -$0.13 = -$0.4300

dollar down 0.51%

[12%ayear]

EAFE estimate down -$0.15
minus FV Thursday (previous) of = -$0.1500 = -$0.3000
minus FV Thursday (guess) of = -$0.13 = -$0.4300

dollar down 0.51%
question..I could you guess-13 FV at this stage? The cut-off is noon and my estimate is -.30 total. Also do not be surprised to see a +fv instead.;)

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.17
minus FV Thursday (previous) of = -$0.1500 = -$0.3200
minus FV Thursday (guess) of = -$0.13 = -$0.4500

dollar down 0.42%

[Corvette]

question..I could you guess-13 FV at this stage? The cut-off is noon and my estimate is -.30 total. Also do not be surprised to see a +fv instead.;)

I just use the EAFE estimate and the S&P500 current price.

Do you think the market will go up today for a +FV? I hope not. I just bought more I-fund shares. bargain hunting. :)

[Paladinxx]

question..I could you guess-13 FV at this stage? The cut-off is noon and my estimate is -.30 total. Also do not be surprised to see a +fv instead.;)
TSPGO also expects a +FV today.


Note: Expecting +FV today. S&P only 12 points away from 1280. Expecting hitting 1280 followed by strong rebound.

[Eagle_Addict]

I just use the EAFE estimate and the S&P500 current price.

Do you think the market will go up today for a +FV? I hope not. I just bought more I-fund shares. bargain hunting. :)

How do you 'BUY MORE I FUND SHARES'? I am assuming that you have only made one ITF this month or is this another account outside of the Gestapo TSP? Just curious, EA

[Guest2]

How do you 'BUY MORE I FUND SHARES'? I am assuming that you have only made one ITF this month or is this another account outside of the Gestapo TSP? Just curious, EA

Simply put, If he had 20% in the (I) Fund. He added to his position by
doing an IFT. That in turn, buys more shares at todays closing price.
(Cheaper then yesterdays closing price). :)

[luv2read]

Simply put, If he had 20% in the (I) Fund. He added to his position by
doing an IFT. That in turn, buys more shares at todays closing price.
(Cheaper then yesterdays closing price). :)
I think he wants to know how he did it if he already used his 2 IFT's for June...

[Rustynutt]

Just for a warm fuzzy, linked to the Yahoo charts from the bottom of the tsptalk page and clicked 5 year average (I and C). Things don't look that bad from this perspective (not that I was invested much then).

How does Eric sing that song, "Always look on the brighter side of life", while nailed to a cross :).

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.15
minus FV Thursday (previous) of = -$0.1500 = -$0.3000
minus FV Thursday (guess) of = -$0.25 = -$0.5500 :worried:



-FV should be more, but it seems that it is always less when there are 2 FV adjustments in one day

[Corvette]

How do you 'BUY MORE I FUND SHARES'? I am assuming that you have only made one ITF this month or is this another account outside of the Gestapo TSP? Just curious, EA

Today was my second IFT of the month.

I moved money from the G-fund.

[Eagle_Addict]

I think he wants to know how he did it if he already used his 2 IFT's for June...

Correct, I just find it hard to believe that someone would not have had 2 IFTs in this wobbly market already!!!!! (Patience, patience...)... EA

[Frixxxx]

EAFE final down -$0.15
minus FV Thursday (previous) of = -$0.1500 = -$0.3000
minus FV Thursday (guess) of = -$0.25 = -$0.5500 :worried:



-FV should be more, but it seems that it is always less when there are 2 FV adjustments in one day

Always seems that way, we'll wait and see.

Keep up the great status reports.....You are a scholar and a gentleman!:cool:

[Eagle_Addict]

Today was my second IFT of the month.

I moved money from the G-fund.

That is good, showed some real restraint during this volatile month......So you will start tomorrow "In the green" on paper as the -FV is reversed! :)

EA

[12%ayear]

EAFE final down -$0.15
minus FV Thursday (previous) of = -$0.1500 = -$0.3000
minus FV Thursday (guess) of = -$0.25 = -$0.5500 :worried:



-FV should be more, but it seems that it is always less when there are 2 FV adjustments in one day
looking more and more like a bottom . Many are turning bearish,great sign to be fully invested.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.15
minus FV Thursday (previous) of = -$0.1500 = -$0.3000
minus FV Thursday of = -$0.22 = -$0.5200 final :worried:

[Corvette]

looking more and more like a bottom . Many are turning bearish,great sign to be fully invested.

I hope you are correct. The strategic oil reserves stops acceptance of 76,000 barrels a day on 1-July. That is not much to lower oil prices, but I hope something gets the market going.

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5000 push
F fund 12.0600 up .0400
C fund 14.6200 down .4400
S fund 18.4100 down .4600
I fund 21.8900 down .5200 :worried:

FV for Friday (previous) = +$0.22

[Fivetears]

Nikkei falls to 2-month low, exporters sold
Japan's Nikkei stock average was down 2.2 percent on Friday after earlier hitting a two-month low, led down by blue-chip exporters such as Honda Motor Co on a stronger yen, record oil prices and steep losses on Wall Street. Financial shares also slid, with top lender Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group down 3 percent, after Goldman Sachs forecast more write-downs at Citigroup and Merrill Lynch. A broad sell-off in the Tokyo market, which extended its losses to a seventh day, came after the Dow industrial average .DJI plunged to a 21-month low. The benchmark Nikkei .N225 ended the morning down 307.20 points at 13,515.12, after slipping as far as 13,481.78. The broader Topix index lost 2 percent to 1,317.48.
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idCAT30373320080627?rpc=44

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 2.01% :worried:
AORD down 1.33% :worried:

dollar up .08%


down day in Asia today
woe is me

FV for Friday (previous)= +$0.2200

[James48843]

Asia is blood red overnight.

Japan down over 2%.

Look at the bright side. At least the I fund has no Chinese stocks.

Overnight Shanghai lost over 5%.

The good news- Europe (CAC, FSTE) has opened slightly higher. Perhaps a pause for a day?

[James48843]

I spoke too soon. Now, after opening higher, Europe is falling again, and is now showing all red.

[Frixxxx]

Taking my FV and going to G. I'm out for a while guys. I heard that they are about to announce a serious credit bubble situation. I'm pulling out my "Grapes of Wrath" book and taking notes. Sorry peeps, I think the bloodbath is going to get worse.:cool:

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate down -$0.12
plus FV Friday (previous) of = +$0.2200= +$0.1000

dollar down 0.09%

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.12
plus FV Friday (previous) of = +$0.2200= +$0.1000 :)

[Braveheart]

EAFE final down -$0.12
plus FV Friday (previous) of = +$0.2200= +$0.1000 :)

I think they will find a few more cents to pump those L Funds I would add more to the I either today or Monday. Remember they held back earlier this month and I thought it was close to .12 cents those in the I Fund were ripped off.

Maybe I am wrong but this was about 2 weeks back.

[Corvette]

EAFE final down -$0.12
plus FV Friday (previous) of +$0.2200= +$0.1000
minus mystery money or rounding down of $0.01 = +$0.0900 final :)

[roskopfm]

I've been hanging in the market (I & S) figuring is got to be bottoming out, then it bottoms out again and again. How low can it actually go before the market says enough is enough.

[poolman]

I've been hanging in the market (I & S) figuring is got to be bottoming out, then it bottoms out again and again. How low can it actually go before the market says enough is enough.


Honestly, Confirmation either way, minimum 2 day's...;)

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5000 push
F fund 12.0700 up .0100
C fund 14.5700 down .0500
S fund 18.3800 down .0300
I fund 21.9800 up .0900 :)

FV for Monday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

I've been hanging in the market (I & S) figuring is got to be bottoming out, then it bottoms out again and again. How low can it actually go before the market says enough is enough.

The I-fund is close to the year low of 21.41. If this does not hold, the I-fund could go as low as 18.30 according to chartists.

I still think we are in the Obama stock market slide.

You usually need a major panic to reach the bottom.

[CorMaGa34]

The I-fund is close to the year low of 21.41. If this does not hold, the I-fund could go as low as 18.30 according to chartists.

I still think we are in the Obama stock market slide.

You usually need a major panic to reach the bottom.

Hi Corvette,

Hard to believe it could go down to below 19.00... I was waiting to get in on Tues as it is getting close to 21 and then just buy and hold: because, it can only go up, doesn't it???

Will keep an eye on your postings Tues and Wed. I always had a special relationship with the I fund and don't want to lose it! Please help!!!! :D Just adding a little drama here :laugh:, please don't think I am this
crazy, I am retired and in safe haven for now, but I do want to get in when we reach THE BOTTOM. NOW, THAT IS THE QUESTION: WHEN IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN... I will wait, I am a very patient person, good things come to us who know how to wait... ;)

Thank you for your input and your efforts in keeping us up to date on the I. This wait is driving me crazyyyyyy!!!!:nuts:

CorMaGa34

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.46% :worried:
AORD down 0.31% :worried:


FV for Monday (previous)= +$0.0000

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.09
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000= +$0.09000

dollar up 0.14%

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate up +$0.11
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000= +$0.11000

dollar up 0.34%

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.11
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000= +$0.11000

dollar up 0.27%

[Corvette]

EAFE final up +$0.11
plus FV Monday (previous) of = +$0.0000= +$0.11000 final :)

[Corvette]

G fund 12.5000 push
F fund 12.0800 up .0100
C fund 14.5900 up .0200
S fund 18.2700 down .1100
I fund 22.0900 up .1100 :)

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.00

[Corvette]

Nikkei down 0.13% :worried:
AORD down 1.35% :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous)= +$0.0000