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luv2read
05-20-2008, 09:34 PM
The Incredible Shrinking Superpower
By MASSIMO CALABRESI/AL JANADRIYAHMon May 19, 6:05 PM ET


Worried about the high cost of filling up? President Bush is on the case. Last Friday he arrived in Riyadh to urge King Abdullah, the leader of the world's largest petroleum producer, Saudi Arabia, to put more oil on the market.

At the sun-bleached airport, Bush was greeted with the Gulf's signature mix of garish oil wealth and tinpot amateurism. A large retinue of royalty watched as a band played an off-key version of the U.S. national anthem. Bush walked through the cavernous air terminal to his motorcade and drove to the monarch's "farm" at al Janadriyah. Through the enormous gates and along alleys of dying shrubs and trees fed by miles of futile drip hoses, he made his way to the King's "villa," a marble-clad, poured concrete palace. Through a foyer with a statue of a cheetah felling an antelope and anterooms full of attendants, Bush strolled deep into Abdullah's inner sanctum, past the portly King's private exercise pool, his Stair-Master and his "Vibromass" anti-cellulite belt-massager, to his personal study, where a console of 24 small TVs filled one wall and two overstuffed chairs coddled the leaders.

It was there, after much pomp and circumstance, that Bush made his request. And it was there that the King still said no.

That was the sum result, anyway, of Bush's efforts to ease your gas bills on his visit to Saudi Arabia. In fact, Bush didn't do much better on the rest of his five-day trip to the region. Oil prices aren't the only issue America faces in the Middle East; they may not even be the most important. The Iranian regime is busy gaining the ability to build a nuclear weapon. Bush made no progress convincing allies to pressure it to change course. Iran is also arming and training anti-Israeli forces in Gaza and Lebanon. Instead of backing down, those groups stepped up attacks on America's allies before and during Bush's trip. Even the nominal purpose of the trip, bolstering Palestinian-Israeli peace talks, produced no progress, unless progress includes the inauguration of a general election battle between Bush and Barack Obama over national security.

But if a record number of Americans disapprove of Bush's performance as President, the issues he spent five days not fixing in the Middle East may not be ones he - or anyone else in America - can do much about. Bush is a lame duck, and foreigners know it. But his successor, Republican or Democrat, will find that America's influence in the world is at its lowest point since the end of the Cold War. The question these days isn't "how weak is Bush?", it's "how weak is America?"

Bush's trip offered a sobering answer. After the President's meetings with the Saudis, his National Security Advisor, Steve Hadley, came to the "villa" where the traveling press corps was working and made a prolonged effort to explain why, even if the Saudis did boost oil production, it wouldn't reduce the cost of gas in the U.S. "The bottom line is," said Hadley, "the problem of high gas prices is more than just about oil, it's more than just about Saudi, and it's more than just about short-term production." All of which is true. Unsaid was the fact that even if the Saudis could reduce gas and oil prices, why would they? They're making a lot of money and the U.S. doesn't have much leverage to convince them they ought to make less.

The Arab-Israeli peace process is no one's idea of an easy fix, but it's failing now, in part, because of American weakness. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas pledged to work on a framework for an eventual settlement that could be signed by the end of the year, even if the two sides couldn't make peace on the ground while they are negotiating. But the militant group Hamas, which controls Gaza, opposes a peace deal and is gaining power from Abbas and launching attacks on Israel with greater frequency, taking advantage of public skepticism there for any kind of peace agreement. The U.S. has tried to rally Arab pressure on Hamas, only to see it grow stronger.

The most important of the tough issues Bush's successor will inherit in the region is the confrontation with Iran. In Israel and the Arab states there is mounting unease, in some cases outright fear, at the idea of a nuclear Iran. But Iran is shrugging off U.N. sanctions that Russia and China are ensuring remain half-hearted. And with the U.S. pinned down in Iraq and Afghanistan there's little Washington can do to scare Iran into changing its ambitions. On Sunday, on the flight back to Washington, when Condoleezza Rice was asked if there was any progress on pressuring Iran, she said, "The important thing is that the President significantly advanced the discussion about really using the strengths that this community of states [in the region] has." Translation: no.

Americans tend to think of the presidency as all-powerful, but much of its authority comes from the ability to convince the public to follow, and the same is sometimes true in diplomacy. The time when George W. Bush could perform that trick has long passed. But if Americans are adjusting to the idea of a weak Bush, an even tougher mental leap awaits them once he leaves office: accepting that the U.S. isn't the force abroad it was just a few years ago. The next President's hardest job may be getting the country used to that. View this article on Time.com
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Miss_Piggy
05-26-2008, 12:55 PM
It was difficult to find the right thread to post this but it provides some good food for thought. And BTW, generally I don't like this guy.
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Fivetears
05-26-2008, 01:19 PM
This almost sounds like a shot at the Clinton Campaign. :nuts:
From bottom of Post 1 ...But if Americans are adjusting to the idea of a weak Bush, an even tougher mental leap awaits them once he leaves office: ... Sorry luv2read :D You post some really good stuff on this board, and I enjoy your views. :)

luv2read
05-26-2008, 01:20 PM
LOL! Thanks! No offense given, none taken. I'm not voting for ANY of them at the moment. I have to see who the VEEPS are...and what platforms the Committees come up with.

Fivetears
05-26-2008, 01:26 PM
Awesome. :)

luv2read
05-26-2008, 02:05 PM
Want to feel better about the USA? I'm watching the war movies on TV. What a great country we were, and can be!:D

Salutes to all our military of all ages! WELL DONE!

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Buster
05-28-2008, 01:47 PM
The closest that Hollywood got to being correct about the wars, was they spelled WWII correctly..My Dad a vet from the Normandy invasion, said that "Saving Private Ryan" was as close to real as he has ever seen coming out of Hollywood.

luv2read
05-28-2008, 02:08 PM
The closest that Hollywood got to being correct about the wars, was they spelled WWII correctly..My Dad a vet from the Normandy invasion, said that "Saving Private Ryan" was as close to real as he has ever seen coming out of Hollywood.
That may be, but some of them use actual military film footage, and most of them are inspiring to watch if you ignore the "soap." "Hollywood," after all, aims to entertain for profit, not educate. If nothing else, the war movies made during the 1940's - early 1960's inspire pride in flag, country, and the generations that went before.

Three of my uncles were at Omaha and Utah. One was also an Army medic at the liberation of Auschwitz. Horrible and fascinating pictures...we donated them to the Holocause Museum. Dad and a couple of other Uncles were Navy in the Pacific theatre. My brother is ex-Navy and his son is currently 82nd Airborne with 3 desert tours under his belt, in Korea right now. He enlisted in June 2001 when he graduated high school...turned 18 that August. Who knew....

Steadygain
05-28-2008, 04:34 PM
Bush is a lame duck, and foreigners know it. But his successor, Republican or Democrat, will find that America's influence in the world is at its lowest point since the end of the Cold War. The question these days isn't "how weak is Bush?", it's "how weak is America?"


This is pretty much the basis for what I'm writting about.

Sad :mad:...what are we leaving our children and grandchildren? But then a lot of folks would love nothing better than for the US to go down the crapper or get it's head handed to them. They sound almost joyous that it is happening. It sure speaks volumes about some of us. :confused:

Please know that I am very discouraged with what is happening and all the more what the next generation will have to face. I certainly DO NOT want to see the US go down the drain - but there is no way I can justify the US taking 50 to 90% of the world's resources year after year and forcing the remainer of the world to make do with what is let over. Over the years the US has taken a very aggressive and forceful attitude towards the rest of the world and this kind of attitude can only last so long as we become a global society. So I would have no problem explaining to my children what is happening.

So YES - I would certainly love to see such a Powerful Country humbled by the rest of the world. I believe humility is what this country needs more than anything else. Maybe then - we could express genuine global concerns and not ignore the rest of the world over "national interests" - because those interests always justify leaving the others without. I have NO DOUBT that most of the world would welcome a more global mindset - and as a civilization that would certainly be the greatest goal we could accomplish.