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10-13-2004, 09:32 AM
. It looks bad but for October, the I fund is up 14 cents, while the C and S are up 8 and 6 cents respectively.




Where did you get these figures? On Oct 1st C fund-$12.00------Oct 12 close was $11.90 UP? .08 cents Please explain

Oct 1st S fund $13.18------ Oct 12 close $13.04

Oct 1st I fund $13.62--------Oct 12 close $13.58

If you think you are making money with these numbers and you really are then you need to be a financial planner. Your stream of business would be non-stop.

Anyway what gives with the comments.

And ignoring the F fund at this time I think is foolish.

10-13-2004, 09:41 AM
Better view.



Date
G Fund
F Fund
C Fund
S Fund
I Fund

Oct 12, 2004
10.58
10.35
11.90
13.04
13.58

Oct 08, 2004
10.58
10.33
11.91
13.03
13.79

Oct 07, 2004
10.58
10.28
12.00
13.14
13.69

Oct 06, 2004
10.58
10.29
12.12
13.31
13.71

Oct 05, 2004
10.58
10.31
12.03
13.21
13.71

Oct 04, 2004
10.57
10.30
12.04
13.24
13.66

Oct 01, 2004
10.57
10.29
12.00
13.18
13.62

Dakota
10-13-2004, 03:49 PM
50 g 50 f until I see some movement the other way

ou81200
10-13-2004, 04:19 PM
I'm gonna give it one more day to correct. :@If after opening tomorrow, the market continues a decline, I will retreat to the G fund.

tsptalk
10-13-2004, 06:47 PM
tsptakedown wrote:
. It looks bad but for October, the I fund is up 14 cents, while the C and S are up 8 and 6 cents respectively.


Where did you get these figures? On Oct 1st C fund-$12.00------Oct 12 close was $11.90 UP? .08 cents Please explain

Oct 1st S fund $13.18------ Oct 12 close $13.04

Oct 1st I fund $13.62--------Oct 12 close $13.58

If you think you are making money with these numbers and you really are then you need to be a financial planner. Your stream of business would be non-stop.

Anyway what gives with the comments.

And ignoring the F fund at this time I think is foolish.

I got yer back. Look at September 30th closing prices. Last I looked, October 1st was still part of October. :oo

Sep 30, 2004
G - 10.57
F - 10.32
C - 11.82
S - 12.98
I - 13.44

Mike
10-14-2004, 12:34 AM
Way to go, Tom. :D

(Ironically, the prices at the close of the 13th are close to where they were on the 30th for S and C :P)

clester
10-14-2004, 06:36 AM
It looks to me like in most years there is a big down day or two in the first part of October then an uptrend to the end of the year. If it's true this year we should start up any day. Got my fingers crossed. 50% S 50% I.

tsptalk
10-14-2004, 09:44 AM
Welcome clester!

smine
10-14-2004, 10:01 AM
I guess I'll leave it as is......too much loss now. Keeping fingers crossed.

smine
10-14-2004, 10:49 AM
No, changed mind.....taking M's advise and moving all to F. Stocks dropping into toilet. 2 month low. Sinking ships....rats running :shock:

tsptalk
10-14-2004, 12:53 PM
Certaintainly a little demoralizing for us invested. Congrats to those who stepped aside. Looks like the S&P wants to test the 200-day EMA again near 1100. Not quiteat 2 month low on S&P yet. We are approaching the late September low quickly however.

New sentiment numbers - 48% bulls, 28% bears. Better than last week but still may be not good enough for a turnaround. Another day or two like today should do it. We are getting oversold again in the short term.

Rod
10-14-2004, 01:47 PM
This is what chaps my rear... I'm out the entire month of Sep. Then when I saw the market rallying a week or so ago, I decided to jump in so I wouldn't miss any gains.

But at the same time, I'm thinking, "You watch, once you get in things will go down hill!"

Sure enough!!!:P

I hate "Murphy's Law"!!!:s

Shouldda stayed G, or I should have at least waited until a couple red days in a row to buy low.

I don't care WHAT historical charts say from now on because lately they have been proven wrong time and time again. I'm going morewith my GUT from here on.

Dakota
10-14-2004, 03:24 PM
Still 50 g 50 f does the Ishares lehmans correspond to the f :dah:

Cinderella
10-14-2004, 06:22 PM
Yes, Dakota, that is correct. The various funds of TSP are explained on the home page of tsptalk under "The Funds".

clester
10-14-2004, 06:41 PM
I use AGG ticker symbol for the F fund

Dakota
10-14-2004, 08:13 PM
thanks, didn't mean to sound like a dunce!:i

Dakota
10-14-2004, 11:02 PM
going 20% across the board, wont post till monday. if things get to looking better i'll go strong in c s i

tsptalk
10-16-2004, 12:43 AM
Rod wrote:
I don't care WHAT historical charts say from now on because lately they have been proven wrong time and time again.I'm going morewith my GUT from here on.

Ouch :shock:. I agree that historical data is flakey at best, but to be successful you have to ignore your gutand trust yourinstrument panel, as they say. I use psychology, valuation and monetary conditions. Nothing is going to call every short term more. But you have to have an idea of where the next major move is going and have a bias toward that until your indicators tell you otherwise.

Sentiment is a strong contrarian indicator because of those irrational "gut" feelings.

clester
10-16-2004, 12:21 PM
I agree. I've found that I should usually do the opposite of what my gut says. Probably because everyone else is thinking the same way.;)

ou81200
10-16-2004, 01:43 PM
Gut feelings is played out using emotion playing the stock market. This is not a good thing.for example, "falling in love with a stock, falling in hate with a stock". Technicals and good old fashion DD work best for me. For TSP related info, technicals and this forum seem to be the best IMO.

tsptalk
10-17-2004, 12:00 AM
clester wrote:
I agree. I've found that I should usually do the opposite of what my gut says. Probably because everyone else is thinking the same way.;)
Exactly!

Dakota
10-17-2004, 01:27 AM
tuesday I will be 33c 33s 34I unless monday tells me not to. Does this sound crazy? :*

Rod
10-17-2004, 01:45 PM
Instinct can be a goodthing, boys & girls.;)

It just may do you well to trust it at times.

How many times have youexclaimned to yourself, "I knew I should have...!!!"???

Sometimes you just gotta go with your gut!!!:^

Rod
10-17-2004, 01:48 PM
tsptalk wrote:
to be successful you have to ignore your gutand trust yourinstrument panel, as they say.
Totally disagree!

God gave you that "gut instinct" for a reason.;)

tsptalk
10-17-2004, 08:24 PM
Rod wrote:
God gave you that "gut instinct" for a reason.;)

lol. As long as we have something else to blame. When I am wrong I can blame my indicators. When you're wrong, you'll have to have a little chatwith God. :D

I guess there is a difference between gut feelings, and emotional decisions. Emotion decisions are thereal killers. We could probably talk about that one for a while.

ou81200
10-17-2004, 08:39 PM
To use "gut instinct" on a regular basis to making stock decisions. Interesting concept, but one I don't have the guts to do.:u

I would say a combination of all would probably be the best approach.

Rod
10-18-2004, 03:05 AM
tsptalk wrote:
I guess there is a difference between gut feelings, and emotional decisions. Emotion decisions are thereal killers.
There sure is!;)

Dakota
10-18-2004, 08:22 AM
we'll seewhat happens today I'm currently 25% across except F. Maybe go 50 s 50 I tomorrow. I kind of like the administrators theory. Haven't been burned too bad yet. wait and see. I hope eveyone has a very good week. Good luck ya'll. I'll babble later. what does mana mean? cindy, Tom, spaf, clester, cowboy Shoot me some stuff

Cinderella
10-18-2004, 09:47 AM
Hi Dakato, You can reward a person on this board with mana if you think that their post was excellent anddeserved a merit. You can award mana by clicking on the person's name and a window will open that will allow you to give mana. The mana will turn green.

Good luck to you with your fund allocations. Hope you see some green.

tsptalk
10-18-2004, 11:12 PM
ou81200 wrote:
To use "gut instinct" on a regular basis to making stock decisions. Interesting concept, but one I don't have the guts to do.:u

lol.

Sometimes my gut says to buy but it turns out it was just gas.

Dakota
10-19-2004, 06:42 AM
thanks cindy, Hope I learn enough to get mana someday, but I appreciate all that you kind people can tell me. I watch everyday the news and the tsp talk, so maybe it will soak in and give me a little advantage. Thanks again ya'll

tsptalk
10-19-2004, 09:17 AM
Glad to have you Dakota!

cowboy
10-19-2004, 03:21 PM
My opinion is the markets are dropping today and will continue to do so and trend now the same way they have all year! So that means S, C & I may all slide some more by the end of the week or next week! Good luck!

Mike
10-19-2004, 03:45 PM
The market is teasing me - it almost dropped far enough for me to take advantage and move my G fund holdings back in, but then it went back up. If it's down tomorrow like it is today, and it's down the following day during the morning trading, I think I'll move back in at that point...

cowboy
10-19-2004, 05:02 PM
I don't think I'm going to be in a big hurry but it could do that as it has before. It went down big for about 4 straight days and if it is in the same old trend it will be like MT stated, and go lower then the low last time.