Islam

[Spaf]

Islam


Muslim History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam


Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam


Terms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

[Birchtree]

Something stinks about this religion. A religion of extremists that potentiate violence. Yes something surely stinks in the mid-east. It makes them crazy for martrydom.

Dennis

[FUTURESTRADER]

This or that religion is not the problem. It's the twisting of young, easily swayed minds. Our fine christian ancestors are not exempt from the greed and ego.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade#The_major_crusades

[FundSurfer]

Something stinks about this religion. A religion of extremists that potentiate violence. Yes something surely stinks in the mid-east. It makes them crazy for martrydom.

Don't hold back Birchy, tell us what you really think. :nuts:

[rokid]

Yeah, don't sugar coat it! :cheesy:

http://www.infolanka.com/jokes/messages/2664.html

[Birchtree]

Inorder for every young worthless Arab to become a Jihadist he must first receive his dear mothers' permission and blessing. If they didn't have a mother they wouldn't get permission to blow their a## up. Get where this is going....and if they didn't have a mother at all they wouldn't exist. All the Middle East needs is efficient birth control or more bombs going off at their home.

[fabijo]

This or that religion is not the problem. It's the twisting of young, easily swayed minds. Our fine christian ancestors are not exempt from the greed and ego.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade#The_major_crusades


Thanks FUTURESTRADER. That's exactly along the lines I was thinking. I'm not too proud of what many "Christians" have done - KKK for example.

[Show-me]

Be careful not to blame the religion for mans failures in character or interpretation. Compare apples to apples. The Christian religion is good it is man that is always corrupt, greedy, lustful, jealous, ect.

Now compare Christianity to Islam. One tells you to spread the the word of God and to love everyone, even your enemy. The other tells you to spread the word of Muhammad by 1. Convert them and if you can not, 2. Enslave them or 3. Kill them.:( :notrust: :mad: Nice religion.

[Spaf]

Be careful not to blame the religion for mans failures in character or interpretation. Compare apples to apples........

Apples to apples: Were the people of the nation supportive of the war (termoil) or against it?
Germany WWII ?
Japan WWII ?
Italy WWII ?
Korea ?
Vietnam ?
Iran ?
Lebonan ?
Iraq ?
When you see the streets full of protestors the big picture comes into focus! It's easy to read the headlines or hear the extremes (left and right). But what do the people say?

[Show-me]

Spaf,

I'm not sure I get your point. My reference was more along the line of a holy war. Jihad! One religion against all others. Convert or die. The thing that strikes me first is that all of these counties you list, the government or the one's in power, controlled all of the media and had control of most of the weapons. The citizens were whipped up in a frenzy to blame another for their woes (mostly economic or political). Some knew what was going on and supported it (the herd), some knew and did nothing out of fear (self preservation), some were oblivious (the ignorant), and some in denial. I believe Germans were pissed because of the economy and WWI, the Japanese were pissed because of the economy and isolationism. We were squeezing them by not selling them oil. Korea and Vietnam communism. The rest I'm not sure.


Apples to apples: Were the people of the nation supportive of the war (termoil) or against it?
Germany WWII ?
Japan WWII ?
Italy WWII ?
Korea ?
Vietnam ?
Iran ?
Lebonan ?
Iraq ?
When you see the streets full of protestors the big picture comes into focus! It's easy to read the headlines or hear the extremes (left and right). But what do the people say?

[tsptalk]

[Birchtree's post was edited to remove offensive reference. However saving the context....Spaf]
You have to start making your point without the offensive references. You're going over the line here.

[Birchtree]

Tom,

I was actually trying to be politically correct by avoiding the term homosexuality. So where it says edit just substitute. It is totally acceptable in the lands of Islam to practice ...............

Dennis

[tsptalk]

I don't think the term you used would be considered politically correct on any planet.

I'm not easily offended Birch, but one of our top board members has decided to leave because of your post. Please be more considerate of those who may be reading. Consider this a polite warning. Thanks.

"Tom,
Please remove me from your members list and delete all my posts. I no longer wish to associate myself with this group. Thanks for your help the last couple years."

[mlk_man]

Bye Cognac.................:(

:p

[Birchtree]

Thankyou for the polite warning - I extend my apology. The other participant wasn't Quips by any chance was it.

Dennis

[fabijo]

Be careful not to blame the religion for mans failures in character or interpretation. Compare apples to apples. The Christian religion is good it is man that is always corrupt, greedy, lustful, jealous, ect.

Now compare Christianity to Islam. One tells you to spread the the word of God and to love everyone, even your enemy. The other tells you to spread the word of Muhammad by 1. Convert them and if you can not, 2. Enslave them or 3. Kill them.:( :notrust: :mad: Nice religion.

That's what I was trying to say - that man is messed up and he interprets his religion in radical ways. I don't know if Islam actually says to convert or enslave/kill, but I know that is what the extremists are saying. I know for sure that a Christian is not supposed to kill nonconverts, but that is what extremists calling themselves Christians have done in the past. So an outsider would also call Christianity a strange religion that promotes violence against nonbelievers. Ever since Constantine declared Christianity the official religion of Rome, there have been many murders in the name of Jesus. It just doen't make sense.:confused:

Love your enemies. I keep a blog called Loving Haters at:
http://mircats.com/fabio

[nnuut]

I believe I'd rather talk about politics than religion, always get in trouble. How about talking about the Market and MAKIN' MONEY?:D

[Birchtree]

Nnuut,

With the global economy and war going on, the two cannot be separated. Anything the Iranian Shiites do will impact the markets universally. There unfortunately is only one solution because they are such li###. And the sooner we do the thing the better off the world will be to include all liberals.

[Show-me]

One thing is for sure if you discuss politics or religion there will be passionate controversy. I'm going to try not to comment here anymore.:o


I believe I'd rather talk about politics than religion, always get in trouble. How about talking about the Market and MAKIN' MONEY?:D

[Quips]

Nah Birch, I don't know what you were thinking about.

[nnuut]

Nnuut,

With the global economy and war going on, the two cannot be separated. Anything the Iranian Shiites do will impact the markets universally. There unfortunately is only one solution because they are such li###. And the sooner we do the thing the better off the world will be to include all liberals.

Birchtree, you make a very good point there. We are in between the old rock and hard place, can't talk about one without talking about the other. It's just me, I get carried away and say things that let's say are a little too direct. Blatant honesty gets me every time, I can't help it, sooooo it's best for me to avoid it like the applause. :o

[Fivetears]

Watch these, there are shocking video clips at this site regarding radical Islam

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cB-F3MPDmqE&mode=related&search=

Some have been pulled.

[mayday]

Watch these, there are shocking video clips at this site regarding radical Islam

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cB-F3MPDmqE&mode=related&search=

Some have been pulled.

All I can say is insanity runs rampant in the minds of brainwashed ignorant death loving religious bigots.

[Birchtree]

Islamic extremism is an ideology of menace. It empowers those who, but for menace, would languish in the world's disregard. The dark achievement of bin Laden, Nasrallah, and Ahmadinejad, (known fondly as Ahmadink), names we know only because of their association to menace, is that they have used menace to make their people visible in the world, to bring them back into the scheme of history. And they are greatly loved for this. If their achievements follow from evil rather than frm good, this is a small thing. Worse than evil is invisibility.

[mayday]

I wonder if peace love or joy is in their vocabulary. I dont see any evidence of this in their lives.

[McDuck]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o237/Mooseman55/Nuns.jpg

[Wolverine]

It's possible looking at those Nuns in the picture, that they could be the ones that I was educated by when growing up. LOL:D

[James48843]

Nice picture.

I'm going to send it along to some friends who will appreciate it.