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Pete1
01-29-2006, 12:17 PM
Financial Engines is a wonderful long-term financial planning tool available free of charge to TSP participants. The website's founder, William Sharpe, is a Nobel Laureate and is most commonly known in the financial world for his development of the "Sharpe Ratio." Just go to Financialengines.com to get started. One caveat - Financial Engines prefers the G fund over the F fund for the fixed income component of the portfolio. According to the Financial Engines FAQ for TSP participants:

"Why does Financial Engines seem to allocate more assets to the G Fund than to the F Fund?

For the TSP, Financial Engines generally prefers the G Fund over the F Fund. Both funds offer similar returns, but the G Fund does so with lower risk.

The G fund contains U.S. Treasury securities that together earn a return similar to that of intermediate to long-term U.S. Treasury securities. Because the G Fund securities typically mature in one day, the risk profile of the G Fund securities is similar to the risk incurred by shorter-term securities. However, shorter-term securities tend to be less risky than intermediate to long-term securities.


The return and risk characteristics of the F Fund are similar to those of intermediate to long-term U.S. bonds. Investors in the F Fund incur the risk associated with holding these securities."

So keep the above in mind if you decide to give Financial Engines a try.

rokid
01-29-2006, 06:44 PM
For the TSP, Financial Engines generally prefers the G Fund over the F Fund. Both funds offer similar returns, but the G Fund does so with lower risk.

Pete1,

Good to see you posting!

Every time I run the Markowitz Mean Variance Optimization, the G Fund drops off the efficient frontier at about 8% return. Since, I want more than 8%, I use the F fund to get it.

Although I respect William Sharpe (duh, he's a Nobel laureate and I'm a humble bureaucrat!), I can't understand why I should leave the F fund out of my portfolio (except that the F fund returns have been lousy over the last three years:cool: ).

Since the G fund is essentially cash, theoretically, it seems like bonds (the F fund) should be included in the market portfolio of risky assets. Comments? Finally, the F fund Sharpe Ratio is inferior to the G fund Sharpe Ratio. However, it is superior to the C, S, and I fund Sharpe Ratios.

Having said all of that, the FinancialEngines web site is very interesting and well worth exploring.:)

Pete1
01-29-2006, 09:48 PM
"The G fund contains U.S. Treasury securities that together earn a return similar to that of intermediate to long-term U.S. Treasury securities. Because the G Fund securities typically mature in one day, the risk profile of the G Fund securities is similar to the risk incurred by shorter-term securities. However, shorter-term securities tend to be less risky than intermediate to long-term securities."

Rokid - To me, it sounds like FE is equating the G fund to a free lunch. It earns an intermediate to long return with short term risk. The current yield on F is about the same as G but still carries intermediate to long risk. Hence, they prefer G to F.