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James48843
01-15-2015, 07:10 PM
Obama Proposes Paid Family Leave for Feds[/quote]

By Kellie Lunney (http://www.govexec.com/voices/kellie-lunney/2348/)

GOVEXEC.com


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President Obama is directing (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/01/14/fact-sheet-white-house-unveils-new-steps-strengthen-working-families-acr) agencies to advance federal employees up to six weeks of paid sick leave to care for a new child or ill family members.
Obama on Thursday signed a presidential memorandum (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/01/15/presidential-memorandum-modernizing-federal-leave-policies-childbirth-ad) expanding the current unpaid family leave benefit – something feds and advocates of government workers have been urging for years. The memo “will allow mothers the opportunity to recuperate after child birth, even if they have not accrued enough sick leave. It will also allow spouses and partners to care for mothers during their recuperation periods and will allow both parents to attend proceedings relating to the adoption of a child,” stated a White House fact sheet.

Obama also is proposing congressional legislation that would give federal workers six weeks of paid administrative leave for the birth, adoption or foster placement of a child. In addition, the bill would allow parents to use sick days to care for a healthy child after birth or adoption. If passed, it would make paid family leave for feds law.

Between the memo and the proposed legislation, Obama is advocating for 12 weeks total of paid leave for federal workers from two different leave banks – sick and administrative. Federal workers accrue sick leave as a benefit; administrative leave is an excused absence from work. The 1993 Family and Medical Leave Act provides up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave to most government and private sector workers for the birth or adoption of a child, or to care for seriously ill family members. Federal employees who give birth or adopt can tap their accrued sick and annual leave to avoid three months without a paycheck, but many bristle at having to use hard-earned leave when paid parental leave is becoming more prevalent in the private sector.

More:
Obama Proposes Paid Family Leave for Feds - Pay & Benefits - GovExec.com (http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2015/01/obama-proposes-paid-leave-feds/102990/?oref=top-story)



What do you think about this?

nnuut
01-15-2015, 08:17 PM
Where in the Private sector?

burrocrat
01-15-2015, 08:33 PM
What do you think about this?

it makes me want to get pregnant.

you mean i could get laid and 6 weeks off work? sign me up.

James48843
01-16-2015, 01:14 PM
Where in the Private sector?

Where?

Every other nation on the face of the planet, except for four nations. United States does not.

Only Lesotho, Swaziland and Papua New Guinea are the only other countries that do not (http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/@dgreports/@dcomm/@publ/documents/publication/wcms_124442.pdf)


It's time to just join the rest of the world in recognizing that families have value to society.

Those are real "family values".

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Frixxxx
01-16-2015, 05:00 PM
It's time to just join the rest of the world in recognizing that families have value to society.

Those are real "family values".

Um, I can think of a different choice for you James....YOU could leave and join the rest of the world.:toung:

JTH
01-16-2015, 05:30 PM
Hold on a second, I get paid to knock my wife up?

There is no downside to this unless you're the one who has to pay...

amoeba
01-16-2015, 06:38 PM
You forgot Sweden, James (480 days, 420 paid at 80%); and you can't be fired because of it. A whole bunch of people at the coffee shop with babies.

burrocrat
01-17-2015, 07:21 AM
families make babies which are potential future taxpayers. let's do a cost-benefit analysis on this idea...

more taxpayers is a good thing because somebody has to labor for income which can be taxed and redistributed to non-taxpayers for making babies. so it's like a perpetual motion sex machine. but it only works if the babies grow up and work. of course, the potential exists that a life that begins with a subsidy and can live its whole on subsidy (free food, housing, healthcare, cash assistance, phone, and after hopefully 18 years of free development subsidized for sex to make more babies) could lead to a disincentive to work and pay taxes. i'm not sure if the return on investment would actully ever materialize. but sex is cool. in some parts of the country like nevada it is even legal to get paid for having sex. in the rest of the country it is not legal to get paid for having sex, but people do it anyways, some of them for free.

basically, obama is proposing to be the nation's pimp and give girls a pittance for their baby factory services. hmmmmmm. alright, i think i am ok with that. get the man a purple hat with a feather in it, and a cane, those are cool. pimp barrack has a nice ring to it, and fits right in with the rest of the politician whores for money in washinton dc.

will there also be corresponding benefits for the donor side side of the equation, it takes two to tango?

OBGibby
01-17-2015, 07:33 AM
Surprisingly the ads on this page haven't changed yet based on burrocat's keywords in his latest post to more interesting pitches, only getting hospital related ads...

burrocrat
01-17-2015, 07:36 AM
pimp obama - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=webhp&tbm=isch&source=hp&ei=SWO6VJTLA8ukNsKsgdgN&q=pimp+obama&oq=pimp+obama&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.12..0.76715.82638.0.83767.13.12.0.1.1.1.760.288 3.2-4j0j1j1j1.7.0.msedr...0...1c.1.61.mobile-gws-hp..9.4.1395.3.VvtcZPOKWNo)

burrocrat
01-17-2015, 07:37 AM
Surprisingly the ads on this page haven't changed yet based on burrocat's keywords in his latest post to more interesting pitches, only getting hospital related ads...

patience, padawan, patience.

now i'm getting ads for home cinemas.

burrocrat
01-17-2015, 07:46 AM
Hold on a second, I get paid to knock my wife up?

look on the bright side, at least i'm not getting paid to knock your wife up.

Greybeard
01-18-2015, 09:10 PM
look on the bright side, at least i'm not getting paid to knock your wife up.

Actually, I think you might be able to get paid to knock up his wife. We'll have to read the regs when they come out. ;)

jpcavin
01-18-2015, 09:21 PM
patience, padawan, patience.

now i'm getting ads for home cinemas.

Ads for setting the mood. What an innovative way to further the cause. :rolleyes:

burrocrat
01-19-2015, 08:01 AM
Ads for setting the mood. What an innovative way to further the cause. :rolleyes:

uhhh, actually i think they were ads for recording the 'mood'.

Viva_La_Migra
01-19-2015, 08:17 AM
Obama Proposes Paid Family Leave for Feds

By Kellie Lunney (http://www.govexec.com/voices/kellie-lunney/2348/)

GOVEXEC.com




What do you think about this?

It's a solution looking for a problem. Feds have been able to get advance sick leave to care for sick family members for years. I've known a few women here in my office that have gone on maternity leave and taken advance sick leave. Some may have even been able to get leave donations.

Khotso
01-19-2015, 11:11 AM
It's a solution looking for a problem. Feds have been able to get advance sick leave to care for sick family members for years. I've known a few women here in my office that have gone on maternity leave and taken advance sick leave. Some may have even been able to get leave donations.

True -- but it's supervisor's discretion. This pretty much takes discretion away from the supervisor as I read it. So, to answer James' original question, I think it's a good idea.

But, yeah, my experience has been that most superevisors in my work environment have been pretty liberal with advancing S/L ... until an individual overindulges.

OBGibby
01-19-2015, 12:26 PM
Fact Sheet: Advanced Sick LeaveAgency DiscretionAt its discretion, an agency may advance sick leave to an employee, when required by the exigencies of the situation, for the same reasons it grants sick leave to an employee, subject to the limitations described below. An agency should not advance sick leave to an employee when it is known (or reasonably expected) that the employee will not return to duty, e.g., when the employee has applied for disability retirement. Before granting advanced sick leave, it is recommended that the approving authority consider such matters as the expectation of return to duty, the need for the employee's services, and the benefits to the agency of retaining the employee.
Advanced Sick Leave LimitationsAn agency may advance up to 240 hours (30 days) of sick leave to a full-time employee*-


Who is incapacitated for the performance of his or her duties by physical or mental illness, injury, pregnancy, or childbirth;
For a serious health condition of the employee or a family member;
When the employee would, as determined by the health authorities having jurisdiction or by a health care provider, jeopardize the health of others by his or her presence on the job because of exposure to a communicable disease;
For purposes relating to the adoption of a child; or
For the care of a covered servicemember with a serious injury or illness, provided the employee is exercising his or her entitlement to FMLA leave to care for a covered servicemember.

An agency may advance up to 104 hours (13 days) of sick leave to a full-time employee*-


When he or she receives medical, dental or optical examination or treatment;
To provide care for a family member who is incapacitated by a medical or mental condition or to attend to a family member receiving medical, dental, or optical examination or treatment;
To provide care for a family member who would, as determined by the health authorities having jurisdiction or by a health care provider, jeopardize the health of others by that family member's presence in the community because of exposure to a communicable disease; or
To make arrangements necessitated by the death of a family member or to attend the funeral of a family member.

* For a part-time employee (or an employee on an uncommon tour of duty), these amounts must be prorated according to the number of hours in the employee's regularly scheduled administrative workweek.
Maximum Amount of Advanced Sick LeaveTwo hundred forty (240) hours (30 days) is the maximum amount of advanced sick leave a full-time employee may have to his or her credit at any one time. For a part-time employee (or an employee on an uncommon tour of duty), the maximum amount of sick leave an agency may advance to the employee must be prorated according to the number of hours in the employee's regularly scheduled administrative workweek.
Supporting Evidence for Advanced Sick LeaveA request for advanced sick leave is essentially a request for sick leave, therefore, the medical documentation requirements for granting of sick leave apply. For details on supporting evidence for the use of sick leave, please see our fact sheet entitled Sick Leave (General Information) (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/sick-leave-general-information/). Employees should consult their agency-specific human resources guidance and review applicable policies set forth in collective bargaining agreements for information specific to their agency.
Liquidation of Advanced Sick LeaveAdvanced sick leave may be liquidated by subsequently earned sick leave, by a charge against annual leave (provided this action is completed prior to the time the leave would be forfeited and the annual leave would have been granted), or by a refund upon separation. If an employee is a participant in an agency's voluntary leave transfer or leave bank program(s), advanced sick leave may be liquidated by substituting donated annual leave for sick leave that was advanced on or after the date of the medical emergency. (See voluntary leave transfer program (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/voluntary-leave-transfer-program/) or voluntary leave bank program (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/voluntary-leave-bank-program/) fact sheets for the definition of medical emergency.) With the consent of the agency, an employee may arrange to refund advanced sick leave in cash if mutually agreeable and administratively feasible. (The pay rate applicable to refund is that rate which was in effect at the time the advanced sick leave was taken.)
When an employee who is indebted for advanced sick leave transfers to another Federal agency without a break in service, the agency from which the employee transfers must certify the employee's sick leave account to the new agency for charge. Agencies may not require an employee to refund the amount of the advanced leave in order to achieve a "zero" balance at the time of transfer. In such cases, a negative sick leave balance should be transferred to the employee's new agency.
When an employee who is indebted for advanced sick leave separates from Federal service, he or she is required to refund the amount of advanced sick leave or the agency may deduct that amount from any pay due the employee upon separation. However, if the employees dies, retires for disability, or is separated or resigns because of disability, the requirement to repay does not apply. The agency makes the determination as to whether an employee has separated or resigned because of disability.
An employee who enters active military service with a right to restoration is not considered as having separated and is not required to refund the amount of advanced sick leave when entering military service. The advanced sick leave should be liquidated either after the employee returns to duty or is separated from Federal service.
Other Available Leave Options and Work Schedule FlexibilitiesSick leave may be used only for those circumstances specified in law and regulation. The Federal Government offers a wide range of leave options and workplace flexibilities to assist an employee who needs to be away from the workplace. These flexibilities include annual leave (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/annual-leave/), sick leave, (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/personal-sick-leave/) advanced annual leave or advanced sick leave (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/advanced-sick-leave/), leave under the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/family-and-medical-leave/), donated leave under the voluntary leave transfer program (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/voluntary-leave-transfer-program/), leave without pay (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/leave-without-pay/), alternative work schedules, (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/reference-materials/handbooks/alternative-work-schedules/) credit hours under flexible work schedules (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/work-schedules/fact-sheets/credit-hours-under-a-flexible-work-schedule/), compensatory time off (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-administration/fact-sheets/compensatory-time-off/) and telework (external link) (http://www.opm.gov/leaving/index.aspx?link=http://www.telework.gov/). Agencies may also have a voluntary leave bank program (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/voluntary-leave-bank-program/).
References

5 CFR 630.209
5 CFR 630.402
5 CFR 630.502(a)
37 Comp Gen. 439 - permits liquidation using annual leave subject to forfeiture

OBGibby
01-19-2015, 12:28 PM
Whatever happened to saving up your annual leave? Don't children still take nine months to materialize?