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[James48843]

Unless Congress acts before Jan 1, federal employees are now slated to receive a 1% across-the-board pay raise in January.

Story:
Shutdown Deal Allows 1 Percent Pay Raise in 2014 - Pay & Benefits - GovExec.com (http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2013/10/shutdown-deal-allows-1-percent-pay-raise-2014/72134/?oref=river)

[Chulke]

What branch of government do you work for James? Are you a civilian? Or are you retired?


Cheers!

[rktect1]

Thats crap

[nnuut]

0% to 1% is a TAX!

[Buster]

Norm...Have you heard what us CSRS Retirees might get if anything?..

Watch Jim come in with the answer now...:D

[Boghie]

We are all part of the 1% now:toung:

[Chulke]

Awwww...are you worried about only getting a 1% pay raise James? Now, I'll admit that does stink but, think about this...the military gets roughly the same pay raise as the rest of the federal work force and they're the ones who are out there on the front lines willing to die for you back here at home...don't you think that stinks more.


There was a time once when congress voted to slash military pay by 50% while giving themselve a 100% pay raise one year...I believe it was sometime after World War 2...But, I'm sure the exact year is out there on the internet somewhere.

The military has always been the red-headed step-children/ slaves of this country because it's a stepping stone for impoverished youth to a better life...but is that fair?


Hmmmm? :notrust:

Cheers!

[James48843]

Norm...Have you heard what us CSRS Retirees might get if anything?..

Watch Jim come in with the answer now...:D

CSRS should come out to 1.5%, FERS the same= 1.5%.

(Although I also hear that they MAY say CSRS 1.2% due to some adjustment. We'll have to wait and see. Normally they would have published that two days ago- but it's still being routed through the signature cycle and is not yet official. Bureau of Labor Statistics has yet to publish the CPI inflation number for September, due to furloughs, and that is needed before they can declare a number.)

[nnuut]

Norm...Have you heard what us CSRS Retirees might get if anything?..

Watch Jim come in with the answer now...:D
Heard a rumor of 1.2% for retires and Social Security, I believe they are using that new metric to calculate it now instead of the CPI-W, which will screw us big time. Just another TAX to fund Obama's agenda!

[James48843]

Awwww...are you worried about only getting a 1% pay raise James



I'm not worried about anything Chulke, I was simply reporting the data.

By the way- I am retired military (Army Guard, so I don't get to collect until age 60), so yes, I am familiar with the miliary pay scales, which, by the way, have increased faster for military than for civilians.

I don't mind a bit. Those who soldier deserve every penny they get. My first year's military paychecks were for just over $400 in a month after taxes, and I thought I was rich back then. Compare the pay chart of 1983 to day, and I'd say today's miltitary is doing pretty well.

http://www.navycs.com/charts/1983-military-pay-chart.html

[James48843]

I just called the guy at the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

He said they will release CPI inflation data for Sept 30th, on October 30th.

So no one will know for sure what the CSRS raise will be until then.

Enjoy.

[Chulke]

which, by the way, have increased faster for military than for civilians.

I don't mind a bit. Those who soldier deserve every penny they get. My first year's military paychecks were for just over $400 in a month after taxes, and I thought I was rich back then. Compare the pay chart of 1983 to day, and I'd say today's miltitary is doing pretty well.

1983 Military Pay Chart (http://www.navycs.com/charts/1983-military-pay-chart.html)



There's good reason why those pay raises were given though because before that civilian pay was out pacing military pay heavily for performing essentially the same job...

all whilest the military members were willing to die for the country....Can a civilian say he was willing to do that?

So yes, I am glad to see our nations military doing well...but they should be doing better in my opinion...you can't put a value on a life!...so being willing to give that up for this country should be worth way more in pay and benefits than any civilian job can pay...and that's JMHO!


Thank you very much for serving our country! I really do appreciate the vets! Although most active duty folks (myself included in the past/ beginning of my career) have never really considered the guard serving...(but that's all changing nowadays!) The guard is deploying way more than it ever has! And with that change, my mindset has changed also and so now I believe the guards service should mean more to the country than it ever has...So again...I thank you for your service!

Now how did you ever become so liberal in your mindset? OMG! you democrats will vote the party line no matter how wrong it is won't you?! LoL! Just kidding mostly on those statement's James but there is a lot of truth in those statements also...LoL!


Cheers!

[James48843]

...Now how did you ever become so liberal in your mindset? ...

For what it is worth Chulke, I haven't always been this liberal. I grew up in the 1960's and early 70's, and worked on poltical campaigns for republicans while Richard Nixon was president. In fact, when I was 28, I ran for State Representative as a republican.
(lost, but got more votes than any other republican in that district before. Came pretty close. (sigh) )

I guess I would say that I have pretty much been mostly consistent with my political views- I haven't changed- but what used to be "mainstream republican" in the 1970's appears to now be considered pretty liberal.

Back on topic- I hope we get the 1%, just because it's been a while since we feds got anything at all.

[Chulke]

Hmmmm...Lol...I suspect you've heard this one before then...

That explains it..."you grew up in the 1960's and early 70's" Lol...peace, love and dope!

just kidding James!


Right On! James!


Cheers!

[Chulke]

For what it is worth Chulke, I haven't always been this liberal. I grew up in the 1960's and early 70's, and worked on poltical campaigns for republicans while Richard Nixon was president. In fact, when I was 28, I ran for State Representative as a republican.
(lost, but got more votes than any other republican in that district before. Came pretty close. (sigh) )

I guess I would say that I have pretty much been mostly consistent with my political views- I haven't changed- but what used to be "mainstream republican" in the 1970's appears to now be considered pretty liberal.

Back on topic- I hope we get the 1%, just because it's been a while since we feds got anything at all.


I don't want to see anyone not get a fair share...So I suppose a better that 1% pay raise would be nice for you to have...and I hope you get it!


Key word in that sentence is FAIR...


Cheers!

[WorkFE]

I haven't changed- but what used to be "mainstream republican" in the 1970's appears to now be considered pretty liberal.

To a certain degree, fair statement.

BTW I sure as heck hope no one joined the military or Gov't as a civilian to get rich. :laugh:

[Boghie]

Hmmmm...Lol...I suspect you've heard this one before then...

That explains it..."you grew up in the 1960's and early 70's" Lol...peace, love and dope!

just kidding James!


Right On! James!


Cheers!

Different strokes for different folks. I would hate to have me for King. I would also hate to have James for King. I guess I am a hater:laugh:

[nnuut]

I'm not worried about anything Chulke, I was simply reporting the data.

By the way- I am retired military (Army Guard, so I don't get to collect until age 60), so yes, I am familiar with the miliary pay scales, which, by the way, have increased faster for military than for civilians.

I don't mind a bit. Those who soldier deserve every penny they get. My first year's military paychecks were for just over $400 in a month after taxes, and I thought I was rich back then. Compare the pay chart of 1983 to day, and I'd say today's miltitary is doing pretty well.

1983 Military Pay Chart (http://www.navycs.com/charts/1983-military-pay-chart.html)
I remember when I enlisted in 1965 as an E1 My first paycheck in Basic Training was $37.50.:sick:

[Chulke]

I enlisted back in '95 my first paycheck as an E1 came in around $300 after taxes and everything of course! I thought to myself, Oh crap!, what did I just do?, I was making more working full time flipping burgers, at my local Hardees restaurant! LoL! I wouldn't change a thing but, back then, man! I was second guessing the decision!


Nowadays these kids (most of them come in as an E3) are making over $800 a paycheck, plus they got a bonus to join!


Man things change so much don't they?


Cheers!

[rktect1]

Yeah we made more in an hourly wage but while serving we also got a place to live and three meals plus health insurance. I never second guessed that decision. Plus you should only be an e1 for a short period of time. Then we got e2 pay. Yippee

[Frixxxx]

When I enlisted in 88 (E-3) - $782/month, dorm room w/roomate, "all you could eat" buffet.
Now they get - $1787/month, no room mate

I left a union job in Ohio for $10.50/hour.

[Buster]

James: CSRS should come out to 1.5%, FERS the same= 1.5%.

(Although I also hear that they MAY say CSRS 1.2% due to some adjustment.


Nnut: Heard a rumor of 1.2% for retires and Social Security,

Thank you Jim and Norm..I was just wondering..appreciate your research efforts.

[nnuut]

More on Retirees 2014 raise.
Your COLA for 2014: Higher or Lower than in 2013? by Ralph Smith (http://www.fedsmith.com/author/ralph-smith/) | August 22, 2013
Your COLA for 2014: Higher or Lower than in 2013? - FedSmith.com (http://www.fedsmith.com/2013/08/22/your-cola-for-2014-higher-or-lower-than-in-2013/)

FedSmith.com Users Glum on Pay Raise Prospects - FedSmith.com (http://www.fedsmith.com/2013/08/26/fedsmith-com-users-glum-on-pay-raise-prospects/)

[James48843]

President Obama signed the Executive Order today ordering the 1% pay raise.



Obama Issues Order Implementing 1 Percent Pay Raise


As expected, President Obama issued an executive order (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/12/23/executive-order-adjustments-certain-rates-pay) Monday implementing a 1 percent across the board pay increase for federal employees under the General Schedule in 2014.

The salary boost is the first for the entire white-collar federal workforce since 2010. The order also implements a 1 percent pay raise for uniformed military service members.


Locality pay remains unchanged- all will go to base pay raise.

More at:

Obama Issues Order Implementing 1 Percent Pay Raise - Pay & Benefits - GovExec.com (http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2013/12/obama-issues-order-implementing-1-percent-pay-raise/75944/?oref=top-story)

[Boghie]

President Obama signed the Executive Order today ordering the 1% pay raise.



Locality pay remains unchanged- all will go to base pay raise.

More at:

Obama Issues Order Implementing 1 Percent Pay Raise - Pay & Benefits - GovExec.com (http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2013/12/obama-issues-order-implementing-1-percent-pay-raise/75944/?oref=top-story)

Geez, I'll get to spend that 1% on my Kalefornea taxes. That is, till I get out of Kalefornea...

[Kaufmanrider]

Geez, I'll get to spend that 1% on my Kalefornea taxes. That is, till I get out of Kalefornea...

My retirement lump sum annual leave check will be 1% higher. ;)

[TSP-roulette]

Does anybody know what % raise the clowns in the House and Senate are giving themselves?

[nnuut]

Does anybody know what % raise the clowns in the House and Senate are giving themselves?
Yes, the same as government employees.

[Scout333]

My retirement lump sum annual leave check will be 1% higher. ;)

Maybe? President Obama signed an executive order Monday giving federal employees a 1 percent across-the-board pay increase ending a 3-year pay freeze. According to the order, the pay raise will become "effective on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning on or after January 1, 2014."
First day of the first pay period would be Jan. 12, 2014. Us 2013 retirees may be out of luck. Screwed again.

[James48843]

Here is the link at OPM:


2014 federal GS pay schedules have been published.


1% raise to base, zero to locality.

General Schedule (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2014/general-schedule/)

[k0nkuzh0n]

Yes, the same as government employees.
You sure about that? I thought congress could not change the pay of current members, only future terms.

[nnuut]

You sure about that? I thought congress could not change the pay of current members, only future terms.
CRS Report for Congress
Prepared for Members and Committees of Congress
Salaries of Members of Congress:

Recent Actions and Historical Tables
Ida A. Brudnick
Specialist on the Congress
November 4, 2013


The Ethics Reform Act of 1989 established the current automatic annual adjustment formula,

which is based on changes in private sector wages as measured by the Employment Cost Index
(ECI). The adjustment is automatic unless denied statutorily, although the percentage may not
exceed the percentage base pay increase for General Schedule (GS) employees.


http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid=%27*2%404P\[%3A%22%40%20%20%0A

[Buster]

WOW!

[RazorCat]

Maybe? President Obama signed an executive order Monday giving federal employees a 1 percent across-the-board pay increase ending a 3-year pay freeze. According to the order, the pay raise will become "effective on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning on or after January 1, 2014."
First day of the first pay period would be Jan. 12, 2014. Us 2013 retirees may be out of luck. Screwed again.
As quoted on the OPM website "In calculating a lump-sum payment, an agency projects forward an employee's annual leave for all the workdays the employee would have worked if he or she had remained in Federal service."
If I understand it correctly, the first 80 hrs. would be calculated at the old salary rate which is equivalent to 1 PP. Remaining leave would be calculated the higher salary rate. I retire on 12/31/13. My only worry is that OPM gets too efficient and calculates it and pays me before the 1st PP end. I doubt it will happen, but I guess I'll have to wait and see. 1% isn't a game changer either way. Actually, it's kind of an insult considering we haven't had a raise in 3 years.

[Scout333]

As quoted on the OPM website "In calculating a lump-sum payment, an agency projects forward an employee's annual leave for all the workdays the employee would have worked if he or she had remained in Federal service."
If I understand it correctly, the first 80 hrs. would be calculated at the old salary rate which is equivalent to 1 PP. Remaining leave would be calculated the higher salary rate. I retire on 12/31/13. My only worry is that OPM gets too efficient and calculates it and pays me before the 1st PP end. I doubt it will happen, but I guess I'll have to wait and see. 1% isn't a game changer either way. Actually, it's kind of an insult considering we haven't had a raise in 3 years.


That sounds a little odd. So they will pay us leave accrued on lump sum annual leave days for which we will be paid??? Any recent retirees out there who were paid for lump sum annual leave amounts. Did they compute it based on your A/L balance at date of retirement or some other method? Just curious, as jr said not a game changer either way.

[Frixxxx]

jr,

I'm confused, if your retirement date is 12/31/13, then all your pay is based off of that PP, correct?

Cause to me, that's what I read at the OPM site. Since the increase doesn't take effect until the full PP of 2014, you probably won't see the increase.

But I'm no expert.

[nnuut]

jr,

I'm confused, if your retirement date is 12/31/13, then all your pay is based off of that PP, correct?

Cause to me, that's what I read at the OPM site. Since the increase doesn't take effect until the full PP of 2014, you probably won't see the increase.

But I'm no expert.

This covers it all!:cool:

The Best Day to Retire From Now Until 2020

by John Grobe (http://www.fedsmith.com/author/john-grobe/) | October 30, 2011

The Best Day to Retire From Now Until 2020 - FedSmith.com (http://www.fedsmith.com/2011/10/30/best-day-retire-from-now-until-2020/)

[Frixxxx]

This covers it all!:cool:

The Best Day to Retire From Now Until 2020

by John Grobe (http://www.fedsmith.com/author/john-grobe/) | October 30, 2011

The Best Day to Retire From Now Until 2020 - FedSmith.com (http://www.fedsmith.com/2011/10/30/best-day-retire-from-now-until-2020/)

Definitely....wait until the 11th of Jan 2014. Unfortunately, this article doesn't help me....I won't leave until 2025.:blink:

[nnuut]

Definitely....wait until the 11th of Jan 2014. Unfortunately, this article doesn't help me....I won't leave until 2025.:blink:
2025!!!!!! That the year I was scheduled to payoff my 30 year mortgage, I paid it off in 12 years. :D

[Frixxxx]

2025!!!!!! That the year I was scheduled to payoff my 30 year mortgage, I paid it off in 12 years. :D

And that's my MRA year!

[Kaufmanrider]

That sounds a little odd. So they will pay us leave accrued on lump sum annual leave days for which we will be paid??? Any recent retirees out there who were paid for lump sum annual leave amounts. Did they compute it based on your A/L balance at date of retirement or some other method? Just curious, as jr said not a game changer either way.

I don't know about the forward projection, if that is correct I like it. I believe your Agency, not OPM, calculates and pays you the lump sum payment out of the operating budget, not S&E. My Time and Attendance clerk has to certify my final PP T&A and audit my leave balances, submit them to HR. I have already submitted PP26 and know my final hours. I am told I will receive the lump sum payment in about 3 weeks after I retire.

[nnuut]

I don't know about the forward projection, if that is correct I like it. I believe your Agency, not OPM, calculates and pays you the lump sum payment out of the operating budget, not S&E. My Time and Attendance clerk has to certify my final PP T&A and audit my leave balances, submit them to HR. I have already submitted PP26 and know my final hours. I am told I will receive the lump sum payment in about 3 weeks after I retire.
I got mine in 8 days!

[Scout333]

I got mine in 8 days!

That would be outstanding since the retirement computations, etc. can take awhile to finalize. Do you remember how your lump sum A/L was computed?

[Y2KBug]

I just retired the end of Sept, it was the middle of a pay period. My next check was a full one, then a half one, then the next was my left over annual leave...

[Frixxxx]

I just retired the end of Sept, it was the middle of a pay period. My next check was a full one, then a half one, then the next was my left over annual leave...

Congratz!

Thanks for that info......might wanna change your tag now that you are officially "retired!" LOL :toung:

[nnuut]

I just retired the end of Sept, it was the middle of a pay period. My next check was a full one, then a half one, then the next was my left over annual leave...
I was CSRS and retired on the 3rd of January. I believe it was including the pay raise, so rate of pay X the number of hours, mine was over $15,000.

[Y2KBug]

I was CSRS and retired on the 3rd of January. I believe it was including the pay raise, so rate of pay X the number of hours, mine was over $15,000.

Nice! I took about a month or so off and moved to SW Florida before I officially retired, so mine wasn't any where that... :)

[Y2KBug]

Congratz!

Thanks for that info......might wanna change your tag now that you are officially "retired!" LOL :toung:

Thanks! How's this? :)

[Buster]

It's official...CSRS retirees got a 1.5% COLA for 2014...Got my notice today.

[clester]

It's official...CSRS retirees got a 1.5% COLA for 2014...Got my notice today.

Next month the new insurance premium kicks in! I netted about $30/mo

[nnuut]

My insurance went up 10 bucks and Medicare $4.

[Buster]

I have BCBS basic and the monthly Prem. went up $10.00

[nnuut]

I have BCBS Basic also...and this year has been the LOWEST annual increase in over 10 years....by far.
Wait until next year! We are paying much less than a Bronze plan, that won't last for long!26471