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ebbnflow
01-26-2012, 03:33 AM
A pattern consists of signals from the C, S and I-fund. And there are eight possible patterns to track each market day's result.

The S&P 500 has a winning percentage of 53% over the last 40 years, so a pattern is considered to be in an uptrend if it's ebbtally percentage goes over 53% (2012 CSI).

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/gregorian9er/ebbcharts/patterns.gif


This is the up-to-date 5 yr. ebbtally compiled since 2007. Notice how patterns with 2 or more red signals (bearish sentiment) -- 5 (59%), 8 (58%), 3 (57%) and 6 (52%) -- have a higher win-loss percentage than patterns with 2 or more green signals (bullish sentiment) -- 1 (51%), 7 (51%), 4 (53%) 2 (54%). That's the contrarian trading strategy at work -- markets tend to go up when sentiment is bearish and down when sentiment is bullish. I didn't think the ebbtally total would result in 8 of 8 patterns hitting it right on target because the odds are against it. The chances of that happening are 1 in 256 (0.5 ^ 8), so it all boils down to having the right data collected (by the ebbtracker database) daily. Note: When following the long-term indicators (triple patterns), one should look at triple patterns 5 and 8 for entry and triple patterns 1 and 7 for exit. Triple-pattern signals show up once or twice a year, so two patterns with the highest or lowest win-loss percentage can be used successfully as entry or exit signals. Triple-pattern appearances: bearish pattern 1-1-1 (Apr. 16, 2007); bearish pattern 7-7-7 (Feb. 22, 2008 and Nov. 07, 2008); bullish pattern 5-5-5 (Apr. 20, 2009 and Jun. 29, 2010); bullish pattern 8-8-8 (Oct. 27, 2011). Triple patterns should be looked at as aberrations or anomalies that mark turning points in the market.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/gregorian9er/ebbcharts/ebbtally.gif

-- ebb

RealMoneyIssues
01-26-2012, 03:58 AM
I can't see photobucket pictures at work, so I look forward to reading this at home.

Thanks for allowing us mortals have a taste of your secret recipe ;)

ebbnflow
01-26-2012, 04:03 AM
January is almost over, so I'll just use this month's ebbchart as a sample. :)

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/gregorian9er/ebbcharts/ebbchart.gif

RealMoneyIssues
01-26-2012, 04:06 AM
January is almost over, so I'll just use this month's ebbchart as a sample. :)

You tease...

ebbnflow
01-28-2012, 01:27 AM
When developing a system of your own, one thing to strive for is to make it as mechanical as possible. Do that and you take away the destructive emotions that sabotage your trading. I believe I have accomplished this with the new mechanical calling system started back in May of 2011. To test it, I began following the exchange-traded fund, TNA with the system's buy and short signals. From May thru December, the system produced a gain of +154.64%. During the same period, TNA went from 94.73 to 44.84, a loss of -52.67%. Here's the latest update of TNA:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/gregorian9er/ebbcharts/TNA.gif

Let me point out what's inherent to the ebbchart -- quantifying chart patterns. We have eight patterns that track each day's market result. To date, each pattern has appeared on the ebbchart 155 times (on average). By the way, you'll have a hard time quantifying regular chart patterns because it's subjective when it comes to interpretation. ;)

"Statisticians say you need a minimum of 30 cases before you can say anything valid about the probability of history repeating itself. Scientists who do really serious science, like missiles and moon shots, demand a minimum of 200 cases." -- Technical Analysis for Dummies.

-- ebb

RealMoneyIssues
01-28-2012, 01:54 AM
Seems like a lot of trades in between TNA and TZA(I can't short). Do you think that would identify me as a PDT?

berline
01-28-2012, 02:22 AM
That's some great numbers ebb. I may have to jump on board just for my non-TSP account. Do I understand correctly that you give you buy/short rec in 1-2 week blocks? if something changes, do you send out an update to modify the upcoming days?

RealMoneyIssues
01-28-2012, 03:45 AM
ebb,

I'm not sure about others, but I am going to need someone to explain all them numbers so I know what to do. Do you have a FAQ or primer so us dummies can figure it out?

Hmmm, 'ebbChart for dummies'

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/smilielol.gif

MrJohnRoss
01-28-2012, 08:02 AM
This is an incredible amount of work you've done here Ebb. Very impressive! I must admit, I'm just not sure I can comprehend how all this works. For a simpleton like me, what are your bottom line results compared to the S&P over the last few years? How many buy/sell signals does your system produce each month? Do those signals work well within the constraints of the current TSP trading limitations? Or would your system work best in our personal accounts?

Thanks for your hard work and for sharing your insights with us! I look forward to learning more from you. I'm always amazed at the amount of intelligence here on this board...

John

ebbnflow
01-29-2012, 02:57 AM
Seems like a lot of trades in between TNA and TZA(I can't short). Do you think that would identify me as a PDT?

Pacific-Daylight-Time trader (west coast)? :confused:


ebb,

I'm not sure about others, but I am going to need someone to explain all them numbers so I know what to do. Do you have a FAQ or primer so us dummies can figure it out?

Hmmm, 'ebbChart for dummies'

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/smilielol.gif

On the first chart, we have last year's ebbtally (2011 CSI) and the current year's ebbtally (CSI 2012). The chart gives us a running tally of the patterns' performance (winning percentage with gain/loss percentage). It allso shows the pattern's current trend for the year.

The second chart is the ebbchart patterns' 5 yr. ebbtally (2007-2012 CSI). This is where we get the system's mechanical calls -- buy/short signals. I don't like having a lot of "if" conditions, but I can live with a couple. The simpler the system, the better!

The third chart is the main ebbchart. The TA needed to generate the red and green signals for each pattern stays in the background, so we can concentrate on the patterns. You can also see the system's buy (C/S/I) and short (G/F) signals here. :D

-- ebb

ebbnflow
01-29-2012, 03:08 AM
That's some great numbers ebb. I may have to jump on board just for my non-TSP account. Do I understand correctly that you give you buy/short rec in 1-2 week blocks? if something changes, do you send out an update to modify the upcoming days?

That's correct, berline. The buy and short signals are given 1-2 weeks ahead of time. Revisions don't happen often, but the charts are updated if warranted. :sick:

-- ebb

ebbnflow
01-29-2012, 05:01 AM
This is an incredible amount of work you've done here Ebb. Very impressive! I must admit, I'm just not sure I can comprehend how all this works. For a simpleton like me, what are your bottom line results compared to the S&P over the last few years? How many buy/sell signals does your system produce each month? Do those signals work well within the constraints of the current TSP trading limitations? Or would your system work best in our personal accounts?

Thanks for your hard work and for sharing your insights with us! I look forward to learning more from you. I'm always amazed at the amount of intelligence here on this board...

John

Thanks a heap for the kind words, John. It's a process that continues to evolve. The new mechanical calling system was started back in May of 2011 and would have probably changed a lot of the previous buy and short signals. I don't want to go into backtesting and come up with enhanced numbers. The results I had with TNA last year was done in real time using the ebbchart signals. From May thru December, the S&P 500 lost -7.77% (TNA - 52.67%), but timing it with the ebbchart signals produced a gain of +41.27% for the S&P 500 (TNA +154.64%). The system had gains for all the months except December. The loss for S&P 500 in December was -3.79% (less volatility) while the loss for TNA came in at -26.05%. On average, we can expect a total of 10 buy/short signals from the system per month.

The most powerful tool in the ebbchart (discovered about a year ago) is the triple patterns (long-term indicators). If you check its timeline (see text above second chart), you will see what I mean. Bearish triple patterns 1-1-1 and 7-7-7 "saw" the impending crash of 2008. And bullish pattern 5-5-5 showed up a month after the bear market bottom (March 09, 2009). Here's a chart using the triple patterns:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/gregorian9er/ebbcharts/triples.gif

This could be refined to also include the minor/fringe patterns (green patterns 2 and 4; red patterns 3 and 6). After a bull run of epic proportions, and no other triple patterns in sight for about a year, bearish triple pattern 2-2-2 turned up on the ebbchart (June 10, 2011). The S&P 500 went down from 1289 to 1129.56 (Sep. 22, 2011), a loss of -12.37%. Then, a timely bullish quadruple pattern 3-3-3-3 (Sep. 23, 2011) showed up to save the year -- the S&P 500 has gained +16.53% (Jan. 27, 2012) since then. :nuts:

-- ebb

tsptalk
01-30-2012, 02:20 PM
I am copying this thread over to the Premium Service Talk (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forumdisplay.php?95-Premium-Services-Talk) forum. It seems more appropriate for those who may be looking for, or have questions about this service. (I saw someone mention that they couldn't find this thread.)

Once we can get the discussion going over there I'll delete this one.

The new thread is in this forum: http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forumdisplay.php?95-Premium-Services-Talk
(scroll down past the sub-forums to see the thread called "EbbChart Primer")