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    Tom,

    Reading the bill my understanding is this will change the IRS rule that allows certain Federal employees who retire after 50 to withdraw from Gov't plans. Not sure what Gov't plans mean. Good question.

    Jeff

    Quote Originally Posted by Itchn2retire View Post
    So another thing to consider is if you have outside 401k. If you roll your private 401k's into TSP will that unlocked those funds. (I'm thinking yes because how are they going to differentiate between what was rolled over and what was contributed.) But then the down side is you're still in the TSP which is limiting.

    I was thinking of moving out of TSP when I retired but now I may need to rethink that if my money is going to be available to me should I decide to retire before 55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itchn2retire View Post
    I'm hoping it's not limited to those specific career services and the legislation applies to "all similar" plans. I'm going to be checking with the retirement branch.
    Please keep us updated if you find anything out.

    Frank

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    Hey I've been retired for over 5 years, why can't I empty my TSP TAX FREE? I haven't touched it 20% is a big Federal hit!



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    Default Re: House set to vote on easing TSP early withdrawal penalty

    This is for a specific set of Federal Employees.

    Here is what Govexec.com says:

    House Passes Bill Exempting Some Feds From Retirement Tax Penalty - Pay & Benefits Watch - Pay & Benefits - GovExec.com


    House Passes Bill Exempting Some Feds From Retirement Tax Penalty
    By Kellie Lunney May 12, 2015 31 Comments


    "The House on Tuesday passed bipartisan legislation 407-5 that would allow federal law enforcement officers and firefighters to access money in their Thrift Savings Plan accounts without penalty when they are eligible to retire.
    H.R. 2146 would reform the tax code so that federal law enforcement officers and firefighters, who are eligible to retire earlier than many other federal employees, aren’t subject to the 10 percent tax penalty on TSP retirement funds and other 401(k)-type plans tapped before the age of 59 and a half. Civilians who access their retirement investments, such as a 401(k), prior to turning 55 if they are retired, or 59.5 if they are still working, incur the IRS fine...."
    May the force be with us.

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    Senate passed bill with minor changes. Back to the House it goes for vote. This bill should be passed and signed by the president soon. My opinion, this changes everything for the select few who qualify. Big question is how will TSP administer this change to our TSP accounts.

    Time to start filling out my retirement papers and make an appointment with my financial planner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATCJeff View Post
    Senate passed bill with minor changes. Back to the House it goes for vote. This bill should be passed and signed by the president soon. My opinion, this changes everything for the select few who qualify. Big question is how will TSP administer this change to our TSP accounts.

    Time to start filling out my retirement papers and make an appointment with my financial planner.

    Jeff
    Concur. This is great news for me too!


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    Default Re: House set to vote on easing TSP early withdrawal penalty

    I think it's good!



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    House Republicans have just decided to use this bill to forward their "fast track trade" nonsense.
    Republicans Considering New Path for Fast-Track Trade Vote - Bloomberg Politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by waxmanak View Post
    House Republicans have just decided to use this bill to forward their "fast track trade" nonsense.
    Republicans Considering New Path for Fast-Track Trade Vote - Bloomberg Politics
    I didn't see any connection to H.R. 2146 in that article. Could you help us connect the dots to what you posted please?

    Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakebound View Post
    I didn't see any connection to H.R. 2146 in that article. Could you help us connect the dots to what you posted please?

    Frank
    From the article...
    The legislation being eyed as the vehicle for the new strategy is a public-safety retirement measure, H.R. 2146, sponsored by Representative Dave Reichert, a Washington Republican.Reichert, in an interview Tuesday, confirmed that leaders were talking about using his bill, which passed the House 407-5 on May 12 and the Senate by voice vote on June 4. He said a final decision hadn’t been made.
    “It’s a revenue bill and it’s already been passed by the Senate,” Reichert said. “They told me that’s the kind of legislation they are looking for.”
    He said one reason is that such a bill couldn’t have other Senate amendments attached to it.
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    Thanks for pointing that out.

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    Update HR 2146:

    GovTrack’s Bill Summary

    This bill became the vehicle for passage of Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal currently being negotiated. The bill was originally introduced as a bill to address issues with retirement funds of federal law enforcement officers and firefighters. On June 18, the House added TPA to the end of this bill and passed both components together, sending the bill to the Senate.
    The addition of TPA to this bill followed a failed attempt to pass the Trade Act, H.R. 1314, a bill that combined TPA with Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA). Although the Senate passed the Trade Act, the House only passed the TPA portion, while the TAA portion failed. This bill, H.R. 2146, includes only the TPA portion of the Trade Act. For more on TPA and TAA, see our summary of the Trade Act. (Note that H.R. 1314 was itself originally introduced regarding an unrelated matter and became the vehicle for the ultimately failed passage of the Trade Act.)
    What follows is our original summary of this bill, H.R. 2146. The provisions that the summary below refers to remain in the bill.
    The Defending Public Safety Employees' Retirement Act would allow retired federal law enforcement officers and firefighters over the age of 50 and with 20 years of service to withdraw money from their retirement funds without any tax penalty. Typically there is a 10 percent tax penalty on retirement funds withdrawn before the age of 59½. In his press release following the bill’s passage through the House, sponsor Rep. Dave Reichert (R-WA8) said that since law enforcement officers and firefighters are able to retire at the age of 50 after 20 years of service they should be exempt from the 10 percent tax penalty. The bill was passed by the Senate with an amendment changing the effective date from December 31, 2014 to December 31, 2015. It now awaits House approval of the amendment.
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