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    Why have there been hugh blank spots in the charts for the S Fund? This is two days in a row. Completely different performance shown for the fund in different places in the TSP Talk site. For Thursday the charts show -1.68% yet the front page of the site under share prices shows a -.02% performance for the day? Which is it? Today it shows almost -3.0% but I don't know if that's skewed due to messed up data. When I look on Monday will there be a completely different number for Fridays performance than what it shows today? WTF? Hardly inspires confidence in the system.

    I know this isn't a TSP Talk problem as the charts for the SDWCPF have been screwed up everywhere I looked. Can hardly make invesment decisions when the data you are provided is wrong.


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    It looks like the price they are using for the previous close (717) is off by about 11 points. I think S closed a little over 706 yesterday. So you need to bust out the calculator and divide 706 by the current price (about 698 as I write this). Looks like we're down about 1.14% at the moment.

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    Thanks Tom for your hard work.
    The S Fund chart ^DWCPF might be confusing to new viewers, any plans to update to the new symbol ^W4500?
    http://finance.yahoo.com/quotes/^W4500,^DWCPF

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    Sounds like a good idea. I will put that on the list.

    Thanks
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    I have merged both of these threads together since they are covering the same subject.
    May the force be with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotRod View Post
    Why have there been hugh blank spots in the charts for the S Fund? This is two days in a row. Completely different performance shown for the fund in different places in the TSP Talk site. For Thursday the charts show -1.68% yet the front page of the site under share prices shows a -.02% performance for the day? Which is it? Today it shows almost -3.0% but I don't know if that's skewed due to messed up data. When I look on Monday will there be a completely different number for Fridays performance than what it shows today? WTF? Hardly inspires confidence in the system.

    I know this isn't a TSP Talk problem as the charts for the SDWCPF have been screwed up everywhere I looked. Can hardly make invesment decisions when the data you are provided is wrong.
    One of our readers asked around and got a response from the Wilshire folks:


    Thank you for your interest in the Wilshire Indexes. The following message was sent earlier today:

    We discovered that our provider of real-time index calculations had an error in their process that resulted in incorrect values for the price returns of the Wilshire Indexes at the close on June 1, 2011. The total return values of the Wilshire Indexes were not affected. The corrected values are:

    Index Index Level

    W4500 700.9718699

    W5000 13952.11333

    W5000FLT 13733.62694

    W5KLC 3094.053083
    .
    .
    We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused.


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    Tom,

    Which would be the closet chart to follow for the S Fund ^DWCPF or ^W4500?
    May the force be with us.

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    They "should" be the same, but I guess the DWCPF has been a little flaky lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsptalk View Post
    They "should" be the same, but I guess the DWCPF has been a little flaky lately.
    Comparing the two charts, they are little different. But the ^4500 is the Wilshire 4500 Completion Index. Where the ^DWCPF is the Dow Jones U.S. Completion Total. So maybe we should be tracking the ^4500.
    May the force be with us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nasa1974 View Post
    Comparing the two charts, they are little different. But the ^4500 is the Wilshire 4500 Completion Index. Where the ^DWCPF is the Dow Jones U.S. Completion Total. So maybe we should be tracking the ^4500.
    I believe it changed in the last your or two. According to the TSP website:

    The S Fund's investment objective is to match the performance of the Dow Jones U.S. Completion Total Stock Market Index, a broad market index made up of stocks of U.S. companies not included in the S&P 500 Index.
    The idea is the same - all U.S. stocks outside of the S&P 500.
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    I thought the S Fund was all the stocks, other than the Dow components, that make up the S&P 500. In other words, the S&P 500 minus the Dow stocks.

    I guess this is kinda of a small cap index, S&P minus the blue chips.

    Tom, I didn't mean to infer that TSP talk was in any way responsible for the bad data and hope it didn't come off that way. I, like the others, really appreciate the time and effort you put into this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotRod View Post
    I thought the S Fund was all the stocks, other than the Dow components, that make up the S&P 500. In other words, the S&P 500 minus the Dow stocks.

    I guess this is kinda of a small cap index, S&P minus the blue chips.
    The S-fund is basically the Wilshire 5000 minus the S&P 500 stocks - hence the Wilshire 4500.

    Quote Originally Posted by HotRod View Post
    Tom, I didn't mean to infer that TSP talk was in any way responsible for the bad data and hope it didn't come off that way. I, like the others, really appreciate the time and effort you put into this site.
    I didn't take it that way.
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