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    Default How low can it go??

    Attached spreadsheet for DWCP year to date, as of yesterday. Index is at about 587 at time of this post.


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    Default Re: How low can it go??

    Look a little further back and you'll see another trend. We are at the bottom of the current trading channel. I think we will likely bounce from here, but if we don't look for us to head to the next tradig channel lower.

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    Can somebody clear something up: What is the difference between DWCP and DWCPF?? These two always differ a little. DWCPF is what shows on the YAHOO page we link to, but both CNN Money and Marketwatch find that no such symbol exists while YAHOO says that there is no info for DWCP. I like Marketwatch because it lets me set up a default portfolio and those symbols show in a sidebar with live return that updates every few seconds, but I can only get DWCP, not DWCPF. Which best tracks our S fund and where do we monitor it?
    Last edited by Pilgrim; 05-12-2006 at 10:18 AM.

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    Anyone know why YAHOO restricts charts and data for DWCPF to 5 days?? Every other offering gives data back as far as five years. Has anyone seen an explanation anywhere?

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    I don't know why that is. And I'm not exactly sure of the dwcp and dwcpf difference. Sorry - Not much help, but I wanted to respond.

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    Default Re: How low can it go??

    That "S" fund being first out of the box for recovery is an interesting theroy.

    This may be the place to be for the next week or so.

    I may move more into "S" as the market shakes off the recent downside.

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    Reply - Two items, somewhat hear-say>

    Been told that there is a lot of spy-ware over there at Yahoo. So I've been shying away from that site. True or untrue??

    Small caps may not have the baggage larger caps do. It's a small business vs big business thing. Think of it as GM having to feed the thousands of VPs plus transportation costs, etc., etc.

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    Default Re: How low can it go??

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilgrim
    Can somebody clear something up: What is the difference between DWCP and DWCPF?? These two always differ a little. DWCPF is what shows on the YAHOO page we link to, but both CNN Money and Marketwatch find that no such symbol exists while YAHOO says that there is no info for DWCP. I like Marketwatch because it lets me set up a default portfolio and those symbols show in a sidebar with live return that updates every few seconds, but I can only get DWCP, not DWCPF. Which best tracks our S fund and where do we monitor it?
    Pilgrim, I recently stumbled upon the answer. The difference is that the DWCPF is a float adjusted index versus the DWCP is a full capitilazation index both of the Dow Jones Wilshire 4500. In english, it's easier to describe by example: if Company A and Company B each have ten million shares in existence and Company C has 20 million shares then under the full capitilzation index, company C will have twice the weight as A and B and A and B will have the same weight. Under a free float index, the weighting is a function of the number of shares available, so if company A is sitting on 50% of it's stock and company B is sitting on 60% of it's stock, company A will have greater weight. The S-fund is based on the floating index according to the fund sheet at TSP.gov

    The DWCPF is the more accurate index to follow. I still don't know the answer to the Yahoo question, bugs the hell out me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin
    Pilgrim, I recently stumbled upon the answer. The difference is that the DWCPF is a float adjusted index versus the DWCP is a full capitilazation index both of the Dow Jones Wilshire 4500. In english, it's easier to describe by example: if Company A and Company B each have ten million shares in existence and Company C has 20 million shares then under the full capitilzation index, company C will have twice the weight as A and B and A and B will have the same weight. Under a free float index, the weighting is a function of the number of shares available, so if company A is sitting on 50% of it's stock and company B is sitting on 60% of it's stock, company A will have greater weight. The S-fund is based on the floating index according to the fund sheet at TSP.gov

    The DWCPF is the more accurate index to follow. I still don't know the answer to the Yahoo question, bugs the hell out me too.
    Thanks Griffin. This is what makes this board so great. I looked everywhere for that and didn't find it. A hundred heads are better than one!


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    Default Re: How low can it go??

    Support for the S&P is at 1245. If we want to buy at support, where is it for DWCP??

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    I see 3 possible support levels for the S-fund. $16.80 (retest of previous lows and where we are about now), $16.50 and $16.00. See attached chart.

    Just my best wild guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilgrim
    Support for the S&P is at 1245. If we want to buy at support, where is it for DWCP??
    DWCPF support..maybe todays close??...562.93, if not, wed, 5/24 close 559.02. 5/24 closes on most indices is support that needs to hold

    DWCP support..todays close, 567.21, 5/24 close 563.23

    5/30 close might offer some support in between

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