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Default What Happened To Global Warming, it's NOT!!

What happened to global warming?
"One thing is for sure. It seems the debate about what is causing global warming is far from over. Indeed some would say it is hotting up."

By Paul Hudson
Climate correspondent, BBC News


Average temperatures have not increased for over a decade

This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.
But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.
And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise.
So what on Earth is going on?
Climate change sceptics, who passionately and consistently argue that man's influence on our climate is overstated, say they saw it coming.
They argue that there are natural cycles, over which we have no control, that dictate how warm the planet is. But what is the evidence for this?
During the last few decades of the 20th Century, our planet did warm quickly.
Recent research has ruled out solar influences on temperature increases

Sceptics argue that the warming we observed was down to the energy from the Sun increasing. After all 98% of the Earth's warmth comes from the Sun.
But research conducted two years ago, and published by the Royal Society, seemed to rule out solar influences.
The scientists' main approach was simple: to look at solar output and cosmic ray intensity over the last 30-40 years, and compare those trends with the graph for global average surface temperature.
And the results were clear. "Warming in the last 20 to 40 years can't have been caused by solar activity," said Dr Piers Forster from Leeds University, a leading contributor to this year's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
But one solar scientist Piers Corbyn from Weatheraction, a company specialising in long range weather forecasting, disagrees.
He claims that solar charged particles impact us far more than is currently accepted, so much so he says that they are almost entirely responsible for what happens to global temperatures.
He is so excited by what he has discovered that he plans to tell the international scientific community at a conference in London at the end of the month.
If proved correct, this could revolutionise the whole subject.
Ocean cycles
What is really interesting at the moment is what is happening to our oceans. They are the Earth's great heat stores. [MORE] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
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It is in Florida...brutal hot for October
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Lucy, you got some splaining to do!!!!!!!!!
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Default Re: What Happened To Global Warming

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It is in Florida...brutal hot for October
Yeah but, all the Northern States got blanketed in snow this past week too...go figure
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Light snow fell Monday afternoon in downtown Green Bay.
The earliest date for measurable snow, 0.1 inch, was Oct. 9, 1925.
The record for Oct. 12 is 2.3 inches, when that amount fell on Green Bay in 1909, said Scott Berschback, meteorologist intern.
"It's not unprecedented," he said. On Oct. 12, 1909, several other cities had record snow.
Green Bay saw 0.1 inch of precipitation Monday.
Any snow that fell melted on contact, said Teri Egger, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service office in Ashwaubenon.
Some snow accumulated north of a line from Wausau to Marinette, but most of the snow was stuck to grass and did not accumulate on roads, Egger said.
The average dates for measurable snowfall for Green Bay are 0.1 inch by Nov. 11, 1 inch by Nov. 22, 3 inches by Dec. 11 and 5 inches by Jan. 5, according to the weather service.
The chance of snow is expected to last throughout much of the week.
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And this was captured on a cell phone Yesterday over Moscow......They're coming......oooooooooweeeeeeeeeeooooooo

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Unseasonably cold here in NE MO.
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Who said that unseasonable cold temperatures are all part of Global Warming?
Was it Big AL, probably?
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A friend and his Brother-In-Law went fly fishing to Ennis Montana, his wife said "they can't fish, it's too cold", their still there waiting!!
Something tells me that most of these guys don't know what the heck is really happening!!

The World Meteorological Organization says cold weather does not mean that global warming has abated. WMO says people should not confuse weather with climate.

People in Europe are shivering, while people in North Asia and parts of Australia are sweltering. Scientists say these weather extremes are to be expected and neither phenomenon can be used as a case for or against global warming.

Michel Jarraud Secretary-General of the World Meteorological Organization, Michel Jarraud, says people should not confuse local weather variability with climate change.

Just because people in Geneva and elsewhere in Europe are shivering does not mean global warming has stopped. He says the trend toward global warming is still there.
"I think we have to be careful not to interpret any single event as a proof of either warming or the fact that warming has stopped," he said. "When scientists look at the global warming, they take into account many, many old possible available evidence. So, we cannot explain any single phenomenon by one single cause."

Jarraud says last year was cooler than the year before, but 2008 still ranks as the 10th warmest year on record.

He says average global surface temperatures have climbed significantly since 1850, when historical weather statistics were first recorded.
"Global warming will mean that heat waves like the one we got in Western Europe in 2003 will become more frequent. But, it does not mean that the 2003 heat wave was produced by global warming ... Last year, we know that part of the relative cooling was due to the La Nina phenomena, which was moderate to strong in the first part of 2008. Then in the second part of 2008, it became closer to what we call neutral condition. Now, it is a little bit unclear what will happen this year," he said.

Jarraud says every year, somewhere in the world weather records will be broken. He says every year, exceptional weather events will take place somewhere in the world. He says people have to look at the global picture to assess whether climate change is taking place.

Scientists say human activity contributes to climate change, but they do not agree on the pace at which climate change may be unfolding.
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"'What happened to global warming?' read the headline -- on BBC News on Oct. 9, no less. Consider it a cataclysmic event: Mainstream news organizations have begun reporting on scientific research that suggests that global warming may not be caused by man and may not be as dire and eminent as alarmists suggest. Indeed, as the BBC's climate correspondent Paul Hudson reported, the warmest year recorded globally 'was not in 2008 or 2007, but 1998.' It's true, he continued, 'For the last 11 years, we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.' ...

Western Washington University geologist Don J. Easterbrook presented research last year that suggests that the Pacific decadal oscillation (PDO) caused warmer temperatures in the 1980s and 1990s. With Pacific sea surface temperatures cooling, Easterbrook expects 30 years of global cooling. EPA analyst Alan Carlin -- an MIT-trained economist with a degree in physics -- referred to 'solar variability' and Easterbrook's work in a document that warned that politics had prompted the EPA and other countries to pay 'too little attention to the science of global warming' as partisans ignored the lack of global warming over the last 10 years. At first, the EPA buried the paper, then it permitted Carlin to post it on his personal Web site. ...

Over the years, global warming alarmists have sought to stifle debate by arguing that there was no debate. They bullied dissenters and ex-communicated non-believers from their panels. ...

For a long time, that approach worked. But after 11 years without record temperatures that had the seas spilling over the Statue of Liberty's toes, they are going to have to change tactics. They're going to have to rely on real data, not failed models, scare stories and the Big Lie that everyone who counts agrees with them." --columnist Debra Saunders
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I'd like to someday enter into discussion the OZONE Hole debacle and the BS cause was CFC type refrigerants and underarm deodorant sprays that was/is depleting the OZONE layer, hence creating an entirely new industry to make alternative refrigerants and service procedures that ended up costing us the consumer millions more than usual in refrigeration maintenance and costs of repairs....Today, as I understand it, the SO-Called hole is smaller than it's ever been over the South pole.

Thank you Mr. Dupont...

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Just like the 3 Word Thread, we can explain it with JUST 3!! money1.gif
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