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Default Uninformed voter make our elections another American Idol contest.

How can a uninformed voter be allowed to elect a leader that would make policies that will effect us all?

How can a voter who does not own a thing, like land, be allowed to vote for a candidate that will raise everyone else's taxes.

How can a person be allowed to vote that does not own anything or pay any taxes?

How can we allow people to vote for a candidate that "looks" nice?

How is it you have to take a driving test to get a drivers license but any dumb ass can vote and it effect foreign and domestic policies?

How is it a lawyers, doctor, electricians, plumbers, aircraft mech., etc. have to take test to get a license but voters do not?

You don't even have to be able to read the issue you are voting on to vote. Just walk in a check a box.



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I am only 19 and I know quite a bit about our country and politics in general. I strongly disagree about raising the voting age, HOWEVER, There SHOULD be a qualifying test. How can people simply sign a piece of paper and have the authority to decide the direction of their county (IE Vote for the president) but have to take not only a written test but a "physical" test of their skill to drive a vehicle.
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Good Point.
I was just thinking in raising the voting age, you might get more people who have been through college or who have at least lived their life to where they know some of this basic information. I can't believe how DUMB a lot of these people are. I think people should have to pass some basic knowledge test about our government BEFORE they're allowed to vote. And people in America are getting dumber all the time.
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I think people should have to pass a frickin' test before they're ALLOWED to vote! Maybe people should be required to be at least 30 years old before they vote... or have a college degree... and pass some sort of test to see if they're an idiot or not, and if they think there are 51 or 52 states in America, or 57 as obama says, then they should NOT be allowed to vote. Or run for president!
WTF is going on, that so many people can be this dumb? Then they vote for idiots like obama!
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Hey genius, at what point in this video did any of the people being interviewed reveal who they're voting for? Can you answer that for me? Btw, I didn't vote for either one, but you should check out some of the videos of dumb McCain supporters in Ohio. Partisanship is a disease.
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Great, this younger generation of voters get their information from Dick joke commedians like Stewart and Colbert. Thats wonderful, a generation of voters informed by Commedy Central. I guess that's how Zero got elected. By the way site the stories that back up your statements about being informed. I doubt you have any.
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Actually, most Americans are retarded about politics, especially the college crowd. Im in college ATM, and no one gives a **** about politics. Ive tried to discuss it with people, and its always a big mistake. Americans are stupid, no matter which party they belong to. I would say, based off my experiences with people, that one out of ten would be able to pass the exam required to become a legal citizen. Thats my experience, so yours may be different. Statistically though, were very dumb.
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Default Re: Uninformed voter make our elections another American Idol contest.

Yellow back Jimmy Carter has weighed in saying anyone who does not like our socialist BHO is a racist. He was an armpit as*hole then and is still one now. BHO had a great revivalist meeting yesterday jazzing up and sucking up to the UAW - it was enough to gag a maggot.
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Yellow back Jimmy Carter has weighed in saying anyone who does not like our socialist BHO is a racist. He was an armpit as*hole then and is still one now. BHO had a great revivalist meeting yesterday jazzing up and sucking up to the UAW - it was enough to gag a maggot.
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Yellow back Jimmy Carter has weighed in saying anyone who does not like our socialist BHO is a racist. He was an armpit as*hole then and is still one now. BHO had a great revivalist meeting yesterday jazzing up and sucking up to the UAW - it was enough to gag a maggot.

That is really not true, what President Carter said in part;

“I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he’s African-American,”

Clearly, I don't know you, perhaps you are a fair and open minded human who really just has certain specific objections to President Obama's policies as well as the direction he is trying to lead this country. However, when I read your above written statement and reflect on the meaning of animosity that Carter was referring to, while I might be a hypocritical egg-head liberal, your objection to BHO seem less about policies and more just hatred. Whether or not it is racially motivated I really don't know for a fact but seeing that your expression of displeasure with BHO and Carter is not substantive but name calling, makes me lean towards racism. To be fair, you did trash the white guy too, "Yellow Back"(?) Seemingly the few lines you wrote, contain what appear to be a rather hateful rant disproportionate to the subject. You as well as such large numbers of (I'm guessing) conservatives may NOT be racists but the animosity towards the President could be confused. I would not at all be surprised to find out that "some" of this is racially motivated on some level. I could be wrong, perhaps you are pure as the driven snow, however, it "seems" you have drifted.
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I actually do hate yellow back Jimmy for my own personal reasons and I couldn't give a rat's ass about BHO. Nothing racist here - just plain facts. The important fact is we should never, ever again allow a liberal to run a war. That's a large problem on the horizon.
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That is really not true, what President Carter said in part;

“I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he’s African-American,”

Clearly, I don't know you, perhaps you are a fair and open minded human who really just has certain specific objections to President Obama's policies as well as the direction he is trying to lead this country. However, when I read your above written statement and reflect on the meaning of animosity that Carter was referring to, while I might be a hypocritical egg-head liberal, your objection to BHO seem less about policies and more just hatred. Whether or not it is racially motivated I really don't know for a fact but seeing that your expression of displeasure with BHO and Carter is not substantive but name calling, makes me lean towards racism. To be fair, you did trash the white guy too, "Yellow Back"(?) Seemingly the few lines you wrote, contain what appear to be a rather hateful rant disproportionate to the subject. You as well as such large numbers of (I'm guessing) conservatives may NOT be racists but the animosity towards the President could be confused. I would not at all be surprised to find out that "some" of this is racially motivated on some level. I could be wrong, perhaps you are pure as the driven snow, however, it "seems" you have drifted.
“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.” - Hillary Clinton

I am going to change this quote a little. "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration somehow you are a racist. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!"

Many people, Blue Dogs and Conservatives, have issues with the President's policies. It's not about race! Quit trying to make it a racial issue!
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Here is my gripe and I'll probably get chastised for it, along with type-o errors to boot.

But what the hell! Are we not, who are all born in this country AMERICANS? Period!

My point; WHY must there always be this distinction or title of African-Americans or Asian-Americans, or Chinese-Americans or whatever the hell else one's ancestral origin is?!?

It must be just me that thinks this is crazy and further divides our country ethnically. By this same thinking, I don't hear white folks calling themselves, European-Americans or would that be racist?

Just wondering "WHY"
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I would rejoice with a Palin/Rice combo - good salt and pepper tone. They would knock the socks off the BHO team.
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Here is my gripe and I'll probably get chastised for it, along with type-o errors to boot.

But what the hell! Are we not, who are all born in this country AMERICANS? Period!

My point; WHY must there always be this distinction or title of African-Americans or Asian-Americans, or Chinese-Americans or whatever the hell else one's ancestral origin is?!?

It must be just me that thinks this is crazy and further divides our country ethnically. By this same thinking, I don't hear white folks calling themselves, European-Americans or would that be racist?

Just wondering "WHY"
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Now of course I can only state this as an opinion, however, I will go out on a limb here and speak for ALL liberal democrats. If you disagree with Obama's policies or plans you are NOT a racists. Seems odd that you often disagree with EVERY policy and plan but fine. You didn't vote for him and you can work with either the Republican Party or any other party you choose to find and put the candidate of your choice into office. However, at this time a very large group of good patriotic Americans, white, black, hispanic, jew, asian, native americans, middle eastern, well, in general a rainbow of (un-capitalised) citizen elected (your term) BHO mostly in response to the viewed failed policies, loss of individual freedoms and other perceived failures of the past administration, specifically Bush, often referred to by the liberals as Dubya, not a term of endearment either but we all know just WHY the H is displayed so prominently in Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.

However, one starts to assume as (the Yellow Back) President Carter said and clearly the Obama Administration tried to distance itself from, that this overwhelming animosity does seem to have the appearance of racial overtones. To me, this is evidenced by the absolute and complete denial. I do not understand how anyone could be so pure as to have not one ounce, spot, smidgen of prejudice in their entire psyche? I'm a minority myself (not black, clearly not white if you look close enough) while a proud American with family who have served in every conflict since WWI and brother in law who died in the North Tower on 9/11 I'm aware that I'm not so pure, perfect as to have no prejudice what-so-ever.

Again, my perspective is similar to Carter, the overwhelming animosity seems disproportional, along with the absolute denial of any racists attitude has the appearance of veiled bigotry. If you are not a racists, fine, move on and hammer Obama on his policies, why the big concern that you might appear racists to others?

Now I believe when Barrack Hussein Obama (BHO) was tasked with questions as to Joe Wilson's now infamous two words, the President said something to the effect that this is about health care not race. True, in this health care proposal we are dealing with, STRUCTURAL inequalities generally ( where race and class and gender all show an ugly face) but the point is that he was working at the structural (systemic) level.

On the lighter side, this is only from me for the sake of a bit of humor, it is noted that Wilson's two words did not contain an N, while a bit disrespectful, I don't recall anyone in the Obama Administration, jumping on the racist bandwagon for "you lie". However, I'm quite sure that the disrespect that was witnessed, will be repeated in the future of Presidential addresses, no doubt by both Democrats and Republicans, nothing wrong with that, we should all give incivility a boost, eh! Still I'm confused by the term Yellow back, by that term are we calling the former President a coward?
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Hey Scooter Bunk, it's good to have ya on Board and I seriously mean that. Serving the vets at the VA is very cool !!

WHY the H is displayed so prominently in Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.

You learn to take it with a grain of salt after awhile. It's pretty much the trend across the board ~~ the ones with a bone to pick pretty much never let up ~~ where as the ones content have little to no inclination to voice their opinions.

I laugh writting this because obviously the reason is so strikingly obvious ~~ if we connect him with 'Hussein' we all the more have sufficent grounding to despise him as a 'Mad Man, A Dictortor, A Muslim Extremest' These guys are good man - they are very good.

Still I'm confused by the term Yellow back, by that term are we calling the former President a coward?
It's kind of a touchy subject that is yet to be hashed out. A lot of good ~~ and here I mean very good ~~ soldiers went out fully committed to the cause of fighting for and totally supporting the USA. Many of them were horribly injured and many died and a huge population that survived have very deep scars (physically and mentally).

Some fled to Canada (in my opinion for the 'right reason') and some fled simply because they were cowards in every sense of the word and refused to demonstate committment to anything (other than their safety). Carter granted 'Amnesty' across the board and that felt like being kicked in the teeth to many who 'paid the price'. In all sincerity this one is better left 'not being discussed'. No idea if you're a Veteran and if you've personally been involved with covert operations or engaged in one war or another but it's something very few are qualified to deal with.

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