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    Metro Plane Event Was Terror Attempt

    POSTED: Friday, December 25, 2009
    UPDATED: 9:30 pm EST December 25, 2009


    ROMULUS, Mich. -- U.S. officials say a Northwest Airlines passenger from Nigeria said he was acting on behalf of al-Qaida when he tried to blow up a flight Friday as it landed in Detroit.

    Law enforcement officials are now identifying the Nigerian man who's suspected of trying to blow up a Northwest Airlines plane as Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab.

    One of the U.S. intelligence officials said the explosive device was a mix of powder and liquid. It failed when the passenger tried to detonate it.

    NBC News reported two people noticed the man attempting to ignite a substance and a third person jumped up and subdued him.There was nothing out of the ordinary until the flight was on final approach to Detroit, said Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory. That is when the pilot declared an emergency and landed without incident shortly thereafter, Cory said in an e-mail message. The plane landed at 11:51 a.m. EST.

    NBC reports the man told investigators he wanted to set off a bomb over the United States and the incident is being handled as a possible terrorism attack by both law enforcement and intelligence agencies.

    Officials said the man is being treated at the burn unit of the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor.Delta Air Lines identified the flight as Northwest 253. It was carrying 278 passengers.Passenger Syed Jafri, a U.S. citizen who had flown from the United Arab Emirates, said the incident occurred during the plane's descent. Jafri said he was seated three rows behind the passenger and said he saw a glow, and noticed a smoke smell. Then, he said, "a young man behind me jumped on him.""Next thing you know, there was a lot of panic," he said.

    Rich Griffith, a passenger from Pontiac, said he was seated too far in the back to see what had happened. But he said he didn't mind being detained on the plane for several hours. "It's frustrating if you don't want to keep your country safe," he said. "We can't have what's going on everywhere else happening here."

    On Friday evening, the Department of Homeland Security released the following statement: "Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has been briefed on the incident aboard Northwest Airlines flight #253 and is closely monitoring the situation. Passengers may notice additional screening measures put into place to ensure the safety of the traveling public on domestic and international flights. As always we encourage the traveling public to be observant and aware of their surroundings and report any suspicious behavior or activity to law enforcement officials. We encourage those with future travel plans to stay in touch with their airline."

    The White House issued a statement saying President Obama was informed about the incident as he vacationed in Hawaii. The President spoke with his Homeland Security and Counter-terrorism advisors. The statement said the President "instructed that all appropriate measures be taken to increase security for air travel. The President is actively monitoring the situation and is receiving regular updates."


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    He was seated at the time in the Airbus A330 in 19A.

    More:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/12/25...ers/index.html

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    (Well, this should make you feel better. The press release from TSA tonight: )

    Department of Homeland Security Statement on Northwest Incident

    December 25, 2009
    5:30 p.m. EST
    WASHINGTON D.C. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has been briefed on the incident aboard Northwest Airlines flight #253 and is closely monitoring the situation.

    Passengers may notice additional screening measures put into place to ensure the safety of the traveling public on domestic and international flights.

    As always we encourage the traveling public to be observant and aware of their surroundings and report any suspicious behavior or activity to law enforcement officials.

    We encourage those with future travel plans to stay in touch with their airline and to visit www.tsa.gov for updates.
    # # #

    Source: http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/...statement.shtm

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    Adverse affect on the markets monday???

    Or a non-starter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James48843 View Post
    He was seated at the time in the Airbus A330 in 19A.

    More:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/12/25...ers/index.html
    He's lucky there were no good ole boys from Oklahoma on board...I promise ya, Besides a little ankle burn, he would be taking his meals intravenously.
    A wise man speaks when he has something to say...A FOOL speaks when he just has to say something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    He's lucky there were no good ole boys from Oklahoma on board...I promise ya, Besides a little ankle burn, he would be taking his meals intravenously.
    Its a good thing the good ole boys were not aboard. If they were, they would be punished for applying hurt to the one in seat 19A. The current administration would not put up with this kind of action.
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    Hes in custody. Good.
    Hes Nigerian.
    Hes 23.
    He claims to be working with al Qaeda.
    He was on a U.S. government watch list of people with suspected terrorist ties but not a no-fly list.
    He traveled from Lagos to Amsterdam to Detroit. He was traveling one way no return ticket.
    Hes being treated for burns in Detroit, thanks to the aforementioned failed attempt. Well, better him than anyone else (though there were a few passengers injured, not seriously). Certainly better than if he had been successful.
    His fellow passengers thwarted his attempt. Per MSNBC.com: Two people noticed the attempted attack, and a third person jumped on the man and subdued him, an airline official told NBC News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handballer View Post
    Its a good thing the good ole boys were not aboard. If they were, they would be punished for applying hurt to the one in seat 19A. The current administration would not put up with this kind of action.
    Yeah..We Okies wouldn't worry about those trivial things..the fact the SOB would never walk or eat normally again would far out justify the consequences of what the liberal punishment would be they could face...but try finding a jury that would convict them..they would be national heroes to most God fearing decent Americans
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    Actually, I'd say it was an Airline Security success story. Security works so well now, that people have to try and put together their own explosives in flight. And now you see how successful they are. Poof, and that's about it.

    Chalk one up for the good guys- the bad guy only set his own pants on fire, and burned his own testicles. That's it.

    Pretty successful airline security, if you ask me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by James48843 View Post
    Pretty successful airline security, if you ask me.
    I hope you're joking ..

    The fact that he was able to bring whatever pyrotechnic on board and then ignite it was not a demonstration of Successful Airline Security...It was PURE LUCK that the thing he had didn't explode as planned...Nigeria is not known for the strictest passenger screening...It was eventless because of the alert passengers that subdued him and rendered him inert until the plane landed.
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    People tend to forget the success stories. I can remember as clear as day of the Bojinka plot in Manila about 14 years ago, a pre-cursor to 9/11. Funded by bin Laden's brother in law who died in a bizarre incident in 2007.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Jamal_Khalifa

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oplan_Bojinka


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp...nes_Flight_434

    One death resulted. The mastermind, Ramzi Yousef was arrested in Pakistan, tried and convicted in the US. It was some very good piloting, also the 747 is a pretty rugged plane.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzi_Yousef

    He was convicted in 1997 and is now in the Supermax prison in Colorado. Oh, and he was convicted in New York, after being captured in Islamabad and extradited to the US.


    Quote Originally Posted by James48843 View Post
    Actually, I'd say it was an Airline Security success story. Security works so well now, that people have to try and put together their own explosives in flight. And now you see how successful they are. Poof, and that's about it.

    Chalk one up for the good guys- the bad guy only set his own pants on fire, and burned his own testicles. That's it.

    Pretty successful airline security, if you ask me.
    Last edited by phil; 12-26-2009 at 05:50 PM.

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    Phil you are a very intelligent guy and I appreciate your input, but you never input your agreement with a post, you always disagree. Why not play both sides of the fence?
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