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[Silverbird]

Dawg
Ok...I guess it can it be done after the 4th child? What's wrong with the dad getting it done and not the mom? Plus, it may only fix the "mom" problem, the dads usually don't show up if you are talking about unmarried and unwanted. I really don't see where this wouldn't simply become big perk for married couples who decide they don't want any more kids.

Birch, I think there are plenty of criminal elements already in the U.S. to keep law enforcement busy.

What happened to the discussion on nuclear power, kthanks.

[Viva La Migra]

Originally Posted by Minnow

You do realize James is gonna come up with a figure, don't you?

Sure, but he'll need to factor in the rate of growth in nuclear waste over that period times the number of facilities that will be needed. We're already over capacity in the Nevada facility, so more facilities need to be built and the cost of those facilities will need to be factored in as well.

If we just left what has already been produced in Nevada and sent future nuclear waste out to the sun, it could be done. Using Phil's estimate of 20 tons of nuclear waste created each year, we could send one Saturn V rocket each year with the previous year's nuclear waste on board on a collision course to the sun and we'd eliminate the need for more storage facilities. Given the payload capacity of the Saturn V, we could probably add some nuclear waste from the Nevada facility and reduce the amount of nuclear waste in storage over time. Do this until we develop the technology to recycle the nuclear waste. I think it's a viable option.

[Silverbird]

Yikes...plant closes, lose your job, get...no Phil.

ON the OTHER subject: Clean coal is a crock right? Has anyone seen anything viable for sequestering (not a theory)? Is there a "clean" way to extract it? I know we have lots of reserves.

How do people feel about natural gas?

[Minnow]

Originally Posted by Viva La Migra

Sure, but he'll need to factor in the rate of growth in nuclear waste over that period times the number of facilities that will be needed. We're already over capacity in the Nevada facility, so more facilities need to be built and the cost of those facilities will need to be factored in as well.

If we just left what has already been produced in Nevada and sent future nuclear waste out to the sun, it could be done. Using Phil's estimate of 20 tons of nuclear waste created each year, we could send one Saturn V rocket each year with the previous year's nuclear waste on board on a collision course to the sun and we'd eliminate the need for more storage facilities. Given the payload capacity of the Saturn V, we could probably add some nuclear waste from the Nevada facility and reduce the amount of nuclear waste in storage over time. Do this until we develop the technology to recycle the nuclear waste. I think it's a viable option.

I read a little about the fast breeder reactors... they seem to be a good theory right now. More efficient and better power producers. I'll see if I can't find a good link or two soon.

note: the term fast breeder is in no way related to the second discussion going on here in the progressive place.

[Viva La Migra]

Originally Posted by James48843

You want it wrapped up in paper, or plastic?

Decisions, decisions...paper kills trees, but plastic gets into the oceans and sea turtles think it's food and die after eating it.

OH THE HUMANITY!!!

[Buster]

Originally Posted by Birchtree

T What we need is for the churches to get involved and start preaching a little shame.

I'm impressed Birch..nicely said.

[PessOptimist]

Some random thoughts on this thread.

It's called "Progressive Place".

As Tom defined progressive:
"1. A person with liberal political opinions: liberal, liberalist
2. Ahead of current trends or customs: advanced, forward, precocious"
James may have had #1 in mind when he started it, if so why not just call it :"Liberals Only Please"?
If he had #2 in mind, there is nothing here that fits except maybe precocious.

Phil wrote:

Originally Posted by phil

Interesting quote. Progressive space is used for progressive ideas. I'm really unsure as to how any of your ideas are progressive by any stretch of the imagination. About reinforcing "existing" opinions as opposed to "new" opinions, there's really nothing new that I don't see posted all over this site already.

Right on Phil, there is nothing new here. Just the same old rhetoric recycled endlessly, by you and everyone else. I sure hope I did that quote correctly and have made no grammatical or spelling errors.

James wrote:

Originally Posted by James48843

Thanks Lady- that's a good idea- let's get back on track.

Progressive ideas.

How do we work together to make America a better place for all?

Good try James but I think you should just rename it and try again.

Now, about that power grid...