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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    You would be surprised at how efficient we have become. The productivity gains over the last 20 years have been nothing less than amazing.

    Yes, it only takes 20 hours of labor to assemble an...
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html

    http://www.uaw.org/auto/12_02_08auto1.cfm
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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    Not quite sure what falsehood you are alleging there, McDuck.

    You mean you think the Union Jobs Banks is doing this? "Requiring manufacturers to pay for non-work"?

    Is that your belief?
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    Incredible.

    Now that GM and Chrysler have declared bankruptcy, and shed a large number of their dealers, in an attempt to "right size" themselves to become profitable, Congress is now on the...
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    Sure- and you can buy one for only $88,000, and wait a year for delivery. Maybe. If they have a factory to produce them by then. Because so far, all they have is one display model made. And it uses...
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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    And you wonder why Chinese car sales are going up?

    Let me give you a hint-

    Take a look at the company website ad for the model being sold on the #1 car company in China- SACI Motors-

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    So....you know, there was a German Company that was interested in bidding- (here comes the jokes...)

    Bavarian Auto Holdings was interested in doing a joint venture with Volkswagon to buy Hummer....
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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    Here you go Buster-

    The Chinese are buying Hummer.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090602/ap_on_bi_ge/us_automakers

    GM to sell Hummer to Chinese company

    By TOM KRISHER and BREE FOWLER,...
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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    I disagree. So easy to blame Unions- when that simply fits your preconceived notions about how things are.

    If you want to know the heart of the problem, take a look at this master's thesis from...
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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    ANd you know who gave that story to FOX news?

    The Albion, Indiana vote to terminate the Union was organized by the anti-Union "National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation" organization:
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    If You’re a ‘Little Guy,’ a Contract Means Nothing




    Posted on Mar 19, 2009

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090318_the_more_things_stay_the_same/
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    At a recent computer expo (COMDEX),Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated, “If GM had kept up...
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    "Cessna CEO runs a full-page ad telling CEOs to buck up, to grow a pair, in essence, and remember what it was like to dream big things".

    Cessna CEO Jack Pelton recognizes that his customer base...
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    GM SALES DOWN 49% IN JANUARY

    Detroit-based GM sold 128,198 light vehicles in January, while Ford's sales totaled 93,060. Toyota sold 117,287 cars and trucks.

    GM said its fleet sales fell 80...
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    Unemployment hits 24.2% in one michigan county:

    "It's a very humbling experience to have to collect unemployment, and it looks like I might even have to go on food stamps. It's embarrassing,"...
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    Jobs bank's demise sets end for some Saginaw GM workers

    by Bree Fowler | The Associated Press and Jean Spenner | The Saginaw News Thursday January 29, 2009, 7:07 AM


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    GM Jobs Bank Closes After 25 Years

    Chrysler Dropped Its Job Bank Last Week, Ford Negotiating With UAW To End Program

    UPDATED: 6:46 pm EST February 2, 2009

    SAGINAW, Mich. -- For more than two...
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    GM Tonawanda lays off 65; job bank ends



    Workers at the General Motors Corp. Tonawanda engine plant have learned the impact on them of the recently announced production cutbacks at GM’s U.S....
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    End of Chrysler job bank affects 21 in Kenosha
    Action comes in the wake of the federal bailout package
    BY DENEEN SMITH
    dsmith@kenoshanews.com
    and THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Chrysler’s “job bank”...
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    GM, Chrysler offer workers cash, cars to leave

    Tue Feb 3, 2009 12:38am GMT


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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    Wrong, Rosko.

    GM's pension fund is fully funded. And that money belongs to the workers, not to the company.

    See http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/business/25auto.html

    and you'll read...
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    (The Open Letter, from MidWest Autoworkers to Southern Autoworkers: )


    Dear Brothers and Sisters:

    The crisis in the auto industry is being used to pit us against each other – union vs....
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    Auto Workers Write Open Letter to Non-Union Auto Workers in the South, Plan to Rally Sunday, Jan 11 outside Detroit Auto Show

    While organizing for a Jan 11 rally outside the North American ...
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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    Sorry Ros, but I don't think you've seen the whole picture. I invite you to tour a GM plant and learn more.

    First, they don't get paid $73. We already had that discusson. The fact is starting...
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    Re: Do auto workers really earn $73 an hour?

    Let's talk for a minute about what a Union is.

    It seems many people think "the Union" is some far off entity, who has gobs of staff people, and runs around and fixes things. Greg, you seem to...
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