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    Yeah, I'mSICK of being penalized for being HEALTHY. :!


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    I deal with most of the lab's sick calls when I'm working, and to say it's abused is an understatement. :shock:

    I told the supervisors that these people are lucky I am not in charge and have the authority to fire because I would certainly do that if I could. :s:s:s

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    OUCH!! Sick time is a benefit to be used Mike...A benefit of employment just like TSP

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    I know for a fact that people are using it extensively when they aren't sick.

    That's unprofessional and is a horrible disservice to the veterans whose medical care falls in part under the jurisdiction of these people.

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    I'm with you Mike. I just wouldn't feel good about myself if I lied about being sick even though I see it being abused by virtually all my co-workers. If we got credit for it, I don't think it would be as abused.

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    I have to put at least half of the blame on those that changed sick leave in FERS. If you're not going to give the employee any credit for not using their sick leave, then wth do you expectemployees to do?

    If i call in sick, what are you going to do, call me a lier? Quit penalizing people, in effect,for not using sick leave, andthey'llquit calling in sick.

    The current system penalizes the honest and the healthy. What's wrong with this picture besides the obvious? Worse, the honest are having their heart strings tugged at to even "donate" their AL for those that abused their SL in the past and thus have none to use for a chronic illness.

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    azanon wrote:
    I have to put at least half of the blame on those that changed sick leave in FERS.
    The current system penalizes the honest and the healthy.
    My list of being penalized gets longer each day. It starts with FERS and keep right on going. My discrimination meter blew a fuse. The misuse and abuse lights burned out years ago.


    Rgds :X Spaf

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    Yes, the lack of compensation for unused leave is certainly a major problem.

    However, I still do not believe that is sufficient cause to justify abusing the leave. That's unprofessional and a gross disservice to those we are supposed to be helping.

    BTW, I would have no qualms about calling certain people liars. Getting "sick" every couple of weeks year-round? I don't buy it.

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    Spaf wrote:
    azanon wrote:
    I have to put at least half of the blame on those that changed sick leave in FERS.
    The current system penalizes the honest and the healthy.
    My list of being penalized gets longer each day. It starts with FERS and keep right on going. My discrimination meter blew a fuse. The misuse and abuse lights burned out years ago.


    Rgds :X Spaf
    Amen!

    People will always abuse any system and yes we are getting the short end of the stick in FERS.

    Point is you never plan onbeingsick or in a accident.
    Bank your sick leave ( 6 months or more) while you are young and in good health because you have a good chance of being sick when you get older. I have seen it to many times in our office.

    For those who "burn" their SL for long weekend, time off, and because of "use it or lose it". So sorry you did not use the system to plan for your future. I will not donate one fraction of a hour to you when you get ill. You had the same opportunity to protect yourself as the rest of us. (Sound like the people who don't PLAN for retirement.) You want to burn some fine, save some first!

    Protect you and yours because no one else will.
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


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    We can be the ant or the grasshopper...

    Ants are industrious and strong, so I think I side with them. Besides, women generally like those qualities. :^

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    azanon wrote:
    I have to put at least half of the blame on those that changed sick leave in FERS. If you're not going to give the employee any credit for not using their sick leave, then wth do you expectemployees to do?

    If i call in sick, what are you going to do, call me a lier? Quit penalizing people, in effect,for not using sick leave, andthey'llquit calling in sick.

    The current system penalizes the honest and the healthy. What's wrong with this picture besides the obvious? Worse, the honest are having their heart strings tugged at to even "donate" their AL for those that abused their SL in the past and thus have none to use for a chronic illness.
    Absolutely. I never understood donating leave either..



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    Hopefully they will realize this and change it so we get credit for being good employees. SL abuse is getting worse, and for those that are abusing it, they also know they can go on the donated AL program. The bleeding heart, sounds like social security doesn't it.

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