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    I'm 65 and retiring at the end of the year. Why wouldn't I want to rollover 95% of my TSP to a Vanguard Admiral IRA? Why didn't I do this a couple of years ago?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimFromak View Post
    I'm 65 and retiring at the end of the year. Why wouldn't I want to rollover 95% of my TSP to a Vanguard Admiral IRA? Why didn't I do this a couple of years ago?
    Not sure why you are asking this question?

    I know their <.2% management fee is enticing, but is there a freedom in the IRA you are looking for? What specifics are you referring to in your statment?

    I assume whatever your current position is in the market, this retirement vehicle beat that, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimFromak View Post
    I'm 65 and retiring at the end of the year. Why wouldn't I want to rollover 95% of my TSP to a Vanguard Admiral IRA? Why didn't I do this a couple of years ago?
    What is stopping you? What fund(s) do you plan to invest in? Make sure you read their Prospectus for whatever you decide to invest in. Here are a few below.
    S&P 500 https://personal.vanguard.com/pub/Pd...pdf?2210120309; short form: https://personal.vanguard.com/pub/Pdf/sp40.pdf?2210120533 Wellington: https://personal.vanguard.com/pub/Pdf/p021.pdf & Balanced: https://personal.vanguard.com/pub/Pdf/p002.pdf

    Other Redemption Rules You Should Know
    Documentation for certain accounts. Special documentation may be required to redeem from certain types of accounts, such as trust, corporate, nonprofit, or retirement accounts. Please call us before attempting to redeem from these types of accounts.
    Potentially disruptive redemptions. Vanguard reserves the right to pay all or part of a redemption in kind—that is, in the form of securities—if we reasonably believe that a cash redemption would negatively affect the fund’s operation or performance or that the shareholder may be engaged in market-timing or frequent trading. Under these circumstances, Vanguard also reserves the right to delay payment of the redemption proceeds for up to seven calendar days. By calling us before you attempt to redeem a large dollar amount, you may avoid in-kind or delayed payment of your redemption. Please see Frequent-Trading Limitations for information about Vanguard’s policies to limit frequent trading.
    Recently purchased shares. Although you can redeem shares at any time, proceeds may not be made available to you until the fund collects payment for your purchase.This may take up to seven calendar days for shares purchased by check or by electronic bank transfer. If you have written a check on a fund with checkwriting privileges, that check may be rejected if your fund account does not have a sufficient available balance.

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    I haven't yet as I'm just now looking into investment options.

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    I plan to do it as soon as I find the funds I want to invest in. Thank you for the links to their funds. This is the type info I need to digest before setting up the IRA.

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    Hi Jim,
    I am in a similar situation to you. I will retire Dec of 2018 with 36 yrs of service.
    Check out the new TSP withdrawal thread for related info, where I also posted.
    I have felt that I would take out the bulk, if not all, of my TSP when I retire and put it in Vanguard. I already have both Traditional and Roth IRA's set up there. The one in-service withdrawal is tempting, but if you take it, your next withdrawal has to be the rest of your TSP (which can be several forms, like annuity/lump sum rollover/series of substantially equal payments, or a combination). This restriction alone is one that makes me want to take all out and go to Vanguard. But there is currently a bill in Congress to allow multiple TSP withdrawals, even multiple in-service withdrawals, much like the outside IRA's already have. So I am kinda waiting to see if that gets passed and implemented. There are some benefits to TSP, the largest of which is the low admin costs. But again, as you point out, Vanguard has some low admin cost Index Funds as well. Not to mention the way bigger array of funds or stocks or ETFs.
    So I have a little more time than you, and am waiting out the legislation. But by all means, if you like the Vanguard option, and are OK with the loss of one withdrawal of the 2 allowed in TSP, go for it. I have been very happy with my Vanguard funds. And who knows....maybe the bill will sail through Congress and be implemented by TSP before you retire. Then you can have the best of both worlds!
    One last note, if you take all of your TSP out after retiring, there is no going back. If you leave at least some in TSP, you can always put more in later by rolling over from your IRA to TSP, if you ever want to.
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