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    Just for the record because I am seeing this said a lot here... I'm not a big fan of saying we don't lose money until we sell. Just because we bought at $10, for example, and it is now $8, doesn't mean it will be guaranteed to get back to $10. We are down $2. The only person that is not a loss to yet is the IRS since you don't report it until you sell.

    That would be like someone who buys today at $8 assuming a $2 gain because someday it may be $10.

    If we are down 50%, we need a gain of 100% to get even. A 25% loss needs a 33% gain. It's not always easy to get even.

    And if the market isn't cooperating, then we can either trade our way back, or dollar cost average as a buy and holder.

    Just a different way to look at it.
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    LOL Man I suck at makin mooney with stocks, I did everything as wrong as I could, this is a big loss and I've only been in this for hardly 2 months... Maybe I should go with TSPIntels's fed/moon cycles. How the hell were people able to pull off >25% gains last yeaR??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyhunky View Post
    LOL Man I suck at makin mooney with stocks, I did everything as wrong as I could, this is a big loss and I've only been in this for hardly 2 months... Maybe I should go with TSPIntels's fed/moon cycles. How the hell were people able to pull off >25% gains last yeaR??!!
    Whatever move you want to make, just do the opposite and you should be ok.


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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyhunky View Post
    How the hell were people able to pull off >25% gains last yeaR??!!
    As they say, even a drunken monkey with a dartboard can make money in a raging bull market, and with the S-fund up 38% and C up 32% in 2013, there were a lot of smart buy and hold investors out there.

    But what separates the buy and holder from the market timer is how much you keep during the downturns. There's nothing easy about a bear market or correction, but if you can save 1% to 5% a year with a few well timed moves, it would make a huge impact on your long-term compounded return.

    Easier said than done, but that's the goal of most of us here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyhunky View Post
    LOL Man I suck at makin mooney with stocks, I did everything as wrong as I could, this is a big loss and I've only been in this for hardly 2 months... Maybe I should go with TSPIntels's fed/moon cycles. How the hell were people able to pull off >25% gains last yeaR??!!
    FunkyHunky,

    If you are young enough to accept the risk, then any one eyed drunk made +25% last year.
    You had to work hard to make less than 25% last year.
    Proof, look at my trades
    Lookin' up at the 'G Fund'!!!

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    GUYS After my CATASTROPHIC ~5% lossI am wondering what I should do now? I'm 100% G, should I move back into the market now or wait for it to drop, stocks usually do well during the holidays right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyhunky View Post
    GUYS After my CATASTROPHIC ~5% lossI am wondering what I should do now? I'm 100% G, should I move back into the market now or wait for it to drop, stocks usually do well during the holidays right?
    Buy some beer while you still have money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpcavin View Post
    Buy some beer while you still have money.
    That's just plain wrong, funny, but wrong!

    I don't think 5% is catastrophic, but I would question why you are getting out of the market at specific times.

    Are you in tune with the AutoTracker and following the big return peeps? Maybe watch and see when they make their moves back in....
    THIS IS WHERE I WOULD PUT SOMETHING TO REPRESENT MY THINKING, BUT THEN THEY SHOW UP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frixxxx View Post
    That's just plain wrong, funny, but wrong!

    I don't think 5% is catastrophic, but I would question why you are getting out of the market at specific times.

    Are you in tune with the AutoTracker and following the big return peeps? Maybe watch and see when they make their moves back in....
    True. But I wasn't trying to be mean. I'm a planner...that's what I do best. I was thinking in the event that he loses all his money, he would still have beer to drink all his sorrows away.

    Seriously, I was just trying to lighten the mood. As you pointed out...5% is not catastrophic and I thought it funny that funkyhunky is so worried. If his moves aren't working for him, maybe he should try BT's system...set it and forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpcavin View Post
    True. But I wasn't trying to be mean.
    I gotcha, !

    Trying to refocus efforts also!
    THIS IS WHERE I WOULD PUT SOMETHING TO REPRESENT MY THINKING, BUT THEN THEY SHOW UP!
    Tracker =
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyhunky View Post
    GUYS After my CATASTROPHIC ~5% lossI am wondering what I should do now? I'm 100% G, should I move back into the market now or wait for it to drop, stocks usually do well during the holidays right?
    FunkyHunky,

    My earlier point was that you should not have been 100% in G - and should almost never be 100% in G. You did not participate in the biggest boom week of the year because you bailed 100% out. Get back in at a reasonable allocation then play the edges. That is how the Las Vegas casinos win. They do not build their buildings off the huge losers, they build them on the edge losers. Most of the losers give 2% - 5% on average to the casino. The big losers bet big, lose, and run away....

    Be an edge winner.

    Create an allocation that buffers you from being a loser while giving you a nice gain in the marginal up markets, then when the market is good add a bit more risk so you gain more than folks with your allocation.
    Lookin' up at the 'G Fund'!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    One thing I always told myself during a Bear market period..You haven't lost a dime until you bail at the low..Hang on a couple of weeks where you're at, we'll be back on top again.....I call this a modest correction phase, it has to happen..Things have a way of reversing.....According to Birch..'Bulls always like it on top'.
    Myself and a couple of others said the same thing here...now look at the market...everything that was (hypothetically lost) has now gained back, plus some...
    Dow 17,573.93


    ..good luck in the future


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