Thread: Obama Talking Energy

Originally Posted by Birchtree

That fool Obama is talking about our energy program - we need more wind power. Little does he realize that drillers have been reduced from 2,000 last year to under 975 today. What a dope.

Obama's blowing enough hot air to power the entire nation!

What he says and what he knows are most likely two different things.

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A preliminary analysis released by the Environmental Protection Agency found that the average American household would pay an extra $98 to $140 a year to achieve the emissions reductions called for in the bill. That estimate assumed that 40 percent of the money collected from auctioning off emissions credits would be returned to American households to help pay energy bills.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/House-...6962.html?.v=1

Maybe some hope yet, that the idiot bHo will not force this down our throats. But we all know who'll pick up the additional cost for the missions standards. The working productive part of the middle class. And we all know who want have to pay the additional costs, because our taxes will be raised to pay their bills, like we are currently paying for their mortgages. And the hits just keep on acomin'.

CB

Originally Posted by CountryBoy

A preliminary analysis released by the Environmental Protection Agency found that the average American household would pay an extra $98 to $140 a year to achieve the emissions reductions called for in the bill.

CB

An extra $140 a year to get rid of dirty coal and make for clean air, and energy independence? Not a bad investment, if you ask me.

I think it is highly unlikely that it will pass, due to the nature of all the political forces aligned against it. Personally, I wouldn't mind a bit. But I don't think it will pass.

I WOULD like to see more emphasis on renewable energy- like ethanol.


Corn- the better fuel.

No foreign imports needed. No cash to the middle east. No toxic pollution from MTBE. 19% lower pollution.

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/biomass/...ths_facts.html

Originally Posted by Birchtree

That fool Obama is talking about our energy program - we need more wind power. Little does he realize that drillers have been reduced from 2,000 last year to under 975 today. What a dope.

Not trying to pick a fight with ya

But thought an alternate view may be worthwhile.

President Obama appears to be the FIRST PRESIDENT in history who has made a point of establishing HIGH PROVILE EXPERTS in the Field of Energy (in his Administration) - and those most qualified to assess the real heath of our Planet. Given their degree of knowing the total impact of the wide variety of Potiential Energy Sources and all the more their knowledge of the adverse impact our Carbon Rich (Oil/Coal) Energy Sources are doing - I'd say it's highly unlikely that anyone on the MB would be even remotely qualified to challenge the plan for a vastly improved and far more sustainable Energy Souce.

For the very first time there appears to be a genuine effort to create sources of ENERGY that are not only healthy for our Planet but all the more are designed to enhance it's health and take advantage of sources that are endless and in harmony with the Universe.

Therefore we need to try to forget that he is African American, that he is a Man, that he is a Demoncrat, that he is married, or has children, or whatever manner we can potientially discredit him because of our prejudical - subjective point of views.

And all of us simply need to rally together AS ONE - AND BE A PART OF A NEW AND BETTER ATMOSPHERE - THAT FULLY SUPPORTS A PRESIDENT DETERMINED TO MAKE THE BEST CHANGES POSSIBLE - AND NOT ONLY FOR OUR GENERATION BUT FOR ALL GENERATIONS TO COME.

Originally Posted by Steadygain

Not trying to pick a fight with ya


Therefore we need to try to forget that he is African American, that he is a Man, that he is a Demoncrat, that he is married, or has children, or whatever manner we can potientially discredit him because of our prejudical - subjective point of views.

Not trying to pick a fight either....but is that a Freudian Slip of the fingers???

Ethanol = A waste of GOOD CORN WHISKEY!!
What a shame!
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Originally Posted by Bullishreturn

An extra $140 a year to get rid of dirty coal and make for clean air, and energy independence? Not a bad investment, if you ask me.

I think it is highly unlikely that it will pass, due to the nature of all the political forces aligned against it. Personally, I wouldn't mind a bit. But I don't think it will pass.

I WOULD like to see more emphasis on renewable energy- like ethanol.


Corn- the better fuel.

No foreign imports needed. No cash to the middle east. No toxic pollution from MTBE. 19% lower pollution.

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/biomass/...ths_facts.html

It will be of modest impact on consumers, provided the government returns the bulk of the money raised by a carbon cap-and-trade system to households, the analysis showed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2235164/posts

However, if the 2 biggest polluters, China and Russia, don't participate, the so called global warming emissions reduction will be minimal and they have already indicates that they will not participate. China is currently bringing a new coal fired unit on line every 10 days.

So between the gov't returning the bulk of the cap and trade money, to offset the reduction cost and the commies not playing ball, I wouldn't count on much happening, except our costs going up because I sure don't see cap money coming back to us, since bHo, has already indicated that money will be used to fund his social programs. I should've used the icon when I quoted that price.

CB

Originally Posted by Bullishreturn

I WOULD like to see more emphasis on renewable energy- like ethanol.

Corn- the better fuel.

No foreign imports needed. No cash to the middle east. No toxic pollution from MTBE. 19% lower pollution.

Mondays are always my busiest days - and hence I probably sound way too serious but it's only because I have no other choice but to state things bluntly and as fast as possible.

My neighbors and I - stopped an ETOH Plant from going in our county - and if it were enviromentally 'friendly' we would not have pushed so hard against it.

THESE PLANTS USE THE MOST VITAL RESOURCE 'WATER' - and turn it into garbage. We're talking millions and millions of gallons of good fresh water.

SO I'D SAY - COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN

Originally Posted by Frixxxx

Not trying to pick a fight either....but is that a Freudian Slip of the fingers???

Thanks man - that was GREAT !! he he he