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Originally Posted by Birchtree

Lyndon Johnson was the creep that sent me to Vietnam. Who knows what the hell Obama will come up with.

No idea what this Thread's about...I'm guessing people are grasping for something to tear down Obama about.

Johnson and Nixon were indeed hugely to blame for promoting the war - bringing it to greater intensity - and dragging it on...

Obama has been essentially thrown into hell - with possibly the worse financial crisis since the Great Depression - a Recession just reaching the stage of Contraction - the Iraq BS in full swing; Afganistan needing the Iron Fist; Iran, Israel; Gaza... and last but not least Global Economies/Markets facing worse times.

So far I'm looking at Obama's picks and his plans - and I'm hoping everyone will come together and give him the best support possible. 9/11 brought the country together - let's hope he can spark that kind of reaction.

Originally Posted by Steadygain

No idea what this Thread's about...I'm guessing people are grasping for something to tear down Obama about.

Johnson and Nixon were indeed hugely to blame for promoting the war - bringing it to greater intensity - and dragging it on...

Obama has been essentially thrown into hell - with possibly the worse financial crisis since the Great Depression - a Recession just reaching the stage of Contraction - the Iraq BS in full swing; Afganistan needing the Iron Fist; Iran, Israel; Gaza... and last but not least Global Economies/Markets facing worse times.

So far I'm looking at Obama's picks and his plans - and I'm hoping everyone will come together and give him the best support possible. 9/11 brought the country together - let's hope he can spark that kind of reaction.

Ditto Steady.... Better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.

Originally Posted by Steadygain

No idea what this Thread's about...I'm guessing people are grasping for something to tear down Obama about.

Johnson and Nixon were indeed hugely to blame for promoting the war - bringing it to greater intensity - and dragging it on...

Obama has been essentially thrown into hell - with possibly the worse financial crisis since the Great Depression - a Recession just reaching the stage of Contraction - the Iraq BS in full swing; Afganistan needing the Iron Fist; Iran, Israel; Gaza... and last but not least Global Economies/Markets facing worse times.

So far I'm looking at Obama's picks and his plans - and I'm hoping everyone will come together and give him the best support possible. 9/11 brought the country together - let's hope he can spark that kind of reaction.

I wish Obama much success...but I have my doubts and concerns.

Originally Posted by Viva La Migra

I wish Obama much success...but I have my doubts and concerns.

I do too my friend. No matter how good his intentions or how hard he may try...the Federal System is way too large to operate effectively...bickering within Congress seems impossible to avoid...States will do everything possible to have Goverment/Fed cover their debts...he will always be viewed as "a black man"...and he's taking charge with numerous historic negative events that have just fallen on both the U.S. and the Globe. Plus a lot of "new people" coming into huge positions...

All we can do is hope for the best - BUT HE IS HUMAN

8 Republicans say they are trying to round up support for measure that would deny Obama the second half of Treasury's financial stability plan.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/14/news...tarp/index.htm

see what I mean

Originally Posted by Steadygain

I do too my friend. No matter how good his intentions or how hard he may try...the Federal System is way too large to operate effectively...bickering within Congress seems impossible to avoid...States will do everything possible to have Goverment/Fed cover their debts...he will always be viewed as "a black man"...and he's taking charge with numerous historic negative events that have just fallen on both the U.S. and the Globe. Plus a lot of "new people" coming into huge positions...

All we can do is hope for the best - BUT HE IS HUMAN

8 Republicans say they are trying to round up support for measure that would deny Obama the second half of Treasury's financial stability plan.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/14/news...tarp/index.htm

see what I mean

I have my concerns about the TARP funds also, especially if we have Timothy “I forgot to pay my Taxes” Geithner in charge. He said it was an innocent mistak…. WTF is that? A 4 year mistake? Give me a break, this really cause my BS meter to peg. What else is he hiding.

If any of us forgot to pay our taxes, we’d be keel hauled or if this had been someone recommended by a different party, it would be 24/7 news and screaming for his head on a platter..

This will tell me what kind of administration BHO will have. One of high integrity or a thuggish Illinois politically run type ofadministration. At least Richardson has the cojones and manned up and dropped out on his own.

We will see if he's all talk or will walk the walk.

CB

Originally Posted by CountryBoy

I have my concerns about the TARP funds also, especially if we have Timothy “I forgot to pay my Taxes” Geithner in charge. He said it was an innocent mistak…. WTF is that? A 4 year mistake? Give me a break, this really cause my BS meter to peg. What else is he hiding.

CB

I guess to me it doesn't make any difference what name you call it (TARP, Bail Out...whatever). The only way to possibly get out of the Recession is giving a whole lot more money. For whatever the reason - corruption, greed, mismanagement.. - it will cost and cost a great deal.

I don't know Timothy Geithner - or anything about him - but it certainly proves my point that the more people you have the more likely some will be exposed to have been involved with major problems. I can't fault Obama for that however.

At this point I am simply open to accepting Obama and Hillary and everyone else for who and what they represent and to fulfilling their service to our country with the highest decication possible.

Originally Posted by Steadygain

I do too my friend. No matter how good his intentions or how hard he may try...the Federal System is way too large to operate effectively...bickering within Congress seems impossible to avoid...States will do everything possible to have Goverment/Fed cover their debts...he will always be viewed as "a black man"...and he's taking charge with numerous historic negative events that have just fallen on both the U.S. and the Globe. Plus a lot of "new people" coming into huge positions...

All we can do is hope for the best - BUT HE IS HUMAN

8 Republicans say they are trying to round up support for measure that would deny Obama the second half of Treasury's financial stability plan.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/14/news...tarp/index.htm

see what I mean

I think it's even more interesting that his own party is giving him a hard time about releasing the TARP funds...and he hasn't even taken office yet!

Originally Posted by Viva La Migra

I think it's even more interesting that his own party is giving him a hard time about releasing the TARP funds...and he hasn't even taken office yet!

Well forgive me for saying this BUT:

Politics is a bunch of bull s***

The more I get into it (or try to) the more flustered I get...

so it's better for me to leave it alone.



GL to all of us - we'll need all we can get

Originally Posted by Steadygain

I guess to me it doesn't make any difference what name you call it (TARP, Bail Out...whatever). The only way to possibly get out of the Recession is giving a whole lot more money. For whatever the reason - corruption, greed, mismanagement.. - it will cost and cost a great deal.

I don't know Timothy Geithner - or anything about him - but it certainly proves my point that the more people you have the more likely some will be exposed to have been involved with major problems. I can't fault Obama for that however.

At this point I am simply open to accepting Obama and Hillary and everyone else for who and what they represent and to fulfilling their service to our country with the highest decication possible.

Steady,

I don’t fault HBO for what Geither did, but I think it still reflects badly on him if he allows this guy of questionable ethics stay. I really find it to be a big flaw in Geither’s character. This “I forgot or it’s was just an honest mistake” is a bunch of whoie and I just don’t buy it. It ranks right up there with “My dog ate my homework. “

Everybody, unless they are a blithering idiot, knows to pay taxes, and if he is that dumb/forgetful, then we don’t need him in this very important role. I think he just got flat out got caught cheating and would have never fessed up if he hadn’t been promoted from being Paulson’s right hand man to being Paulson Version 2.0. Where was he during all of this mess? He was right there in the middle of it at Paulson's side.

I think BHO could’ve come up with some one much more qualified than someone who help perpetuate this mess. And if he thought Paulson was wrong and didn’t have the backbone to speak up, then I sure don’t think he’s the man to stand up to Congress and tell them the facts of life.

I’ve always said that I hope BHO is successful, although I think our children will have a lesser quality of life, because of the massive burden flooding the market will have on the economy. I just don’t agree with BHO’s politics or view on life, but that’s neither here nor there. As for Hillary, she has bigger Thatchers than Geither has.

All we are doing is prolonging the agony with the bailouts. We’ll have to pay the piper big time and I’m just one that prefers pulling that band-aid off fast instead of just slowly pulling it off.

Everyone says that we, the public, are 60 to 70% of our GDP and until we can repair our battered retirement and get out of debt, then the economy will not recover. The publics psyche has been battered and they finally realize that they have spent over there means and now realize how important it is to save. This is going to take longer than a 2 year period. The quicker this occurs the quicker we'll get back on our feet, economy wise. The Government needs to put as much emphasis on spending reductions as it is in throwing money at the problem.

Just one man’s opinion. Sorry for being so wordy Steady, sometimes I tend to run off at the mouth.

CB

NO it's cool man!

and you are right on. I just don't know who he had to pick from and what this guys qualifications really are for the job.

But I fully agree - if it's ONE TIME Obama would really want to make sure things are up to par...spotless...it's now.