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    Apple rejects court order to help FBI unlock San Bernardino gunman

    "Apple Inc. AAPL, +0.03% is rejecting an order from a federal judge to design a version of its iPhone software which bypasses the security measure that prompts a phone to self-destruct after 10 failed password attempts so federal investigators can unlock a phone linked to one of the San Bernardino, Calif., attackers who killed 14 people in December."


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    Quote Originally Posted by userque View Post
    Apple rejects court order to help FBI unlock San Bernardino gunman

    "Apple Inc. AAPL, +0.03% is rejecting an order from a federal judge to design a version of its iPhone software which bypasses the security measure that prompts a phone to self-destruct after 10 failed password attempts so federal investigators can unlock a phone linked to one of the San Bernardino, Calif., attackers who killed 14 people in December."


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    LULZ, Freedom of Speech baby.........

    LOL, how many people would lose an IPhone EVERY SINGLE TIME AN INFANT GOT A GRIP ON YOUR IPHONE????????

    10 password hack attempts, then BOOM! Off to the Apple Store!
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    good read on the subject here-beware unintended consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alevin View Post
    good read on the subject here-beware unintended consequences.

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    it is too late once you hear it on the news. this is a non-issue because they can already algorithm you by virtue of non-participation in shared service provider data and physical location and social network. mute point. get used to it. the only real question is whether they drone you immediately or ask you questions first. and most of those questions will be from some fake pseudo online friend. but there still is the legality of waterboarding to contend with if you choose to be difficult.
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    does anybody else find it ironic that al gore rhythms now control most of the content we see and basically shunt our choices in life to preferred outcomes? folks do remember that it was al gore that invented the internet, right? as a function of darpa rhythms? wake up. all your base belong to us. and they have from the very start. way before computers. silly stuff, this 'freedom'. pay your taxes. obey authority.
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    for reference, al gore took the initiative to creating the internet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IejjnZYvMF8

    pay key attention to emerging futures and stuff... now machine algorithms own your commerce. up, down, and sideways. also your likes, dislikes, hobbies, pinterests, criminal records, and even when you took your top off after a few margueritas on vacation in mexico. so all these arguments are just fodder. unless you live under a rock and transact only with sticks and clams, then you are an open book. even if you only write paper checks they record each evening through the fed instant imaging settlement system, money never sleeps. and if you only pay hard cash then that is an even bigger red flag. either you share your information for public scrutiny which identifies you, or else you refuse to transact digitally which is an even bigger red flag.

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    My understanding (based upon the BBC news) is that its latest version of OS would require a different technique than before.

    (A court can order them to do what they are already capable of doing, as they've done 70 times before. This time, they would have to create new software. The request is very likely unconstitutional as programs are considered 'speech' and the courts can't lawfully order such speech.)

    In this case, the feds want them to create a crippled version of the OS and push/side-load it to the locked phone. This crippled version would allow unlimited automated 'unlock' attempts--then the feds would do the easy work...brute-forcing the pin.

    Once Apple creates/reveals such a side-loading technique, and the crippled OS; other countries could then say, "me too..." (alone with the feds saying 'do it again.') And, hackers would likely acquire the technology/techniques.
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    If the terrorist used proper third party encryption underneath the weak iPhone encryption, their data would remain safe from current brute-forcing attacks. It is weak because it is based upon a short pin length.

    Another thing someone could do is set the phone to erase itself after not being unlocked for a certain length of time.
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    To be clear, it's not about what information the gov can or cannot hack now or what information they have been given in the past, it's about one of the prized amendments to the you know what. and maybe not the first one that comes to mind.

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    An exchange between TV people this morning struck me. The reporting was on the eastern judge's ruling that Apple did not have to unlock an iPhone and how that related to the case pending in the west. Then a question came about how the news that Apple had cooperated with the government of China, in where it stored data and preapproval of apps. Would that have an impact in the USA? The answer was yes, certainly, that would be significant to find that Apple was doing something for China that it refused to do for the US.

    What a twist. What that shows. If Apple is cooperating with a repressive government, there's no reason to decline to cooperate with ours. So we can be just like China.

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    While Apple is fighting the FBI in court over encryption, Amazon quietly disabled the option to use encryption to protect data on its Android-powered devices.
    The tech giant has recently deprecated support for device encryption on the latest version of Fire OS, Amazon’s custom Android operating system, which powers its tablets and phones. In the past, privacy-minded users could protect data stored inside their devices, such as their emails, by scrambling it with a password, which made it unreadable in case the device got lost or stolen. With this change, users who had encryption on in their Fire devices are left with two bad choices: either decline to install the update, leaving their devices with outdated software, or give up and keep their data unencrypted.
    Amazon Quietly Removes Encryption Support from its Gadgets | Motherboard

    Microsoft with Windows 10, Amazon with Fire, Apple iOS, ....

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