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    Sure.

    Inflation is the expansion of money and credit. Deflation is the contraction of money and credit. Many folks see the movement of prices, and infer that is the inflation or deflation -- but they are the effect of deflation and inflation.

    Very quick cliff notes version:
    In an inflationary environment, credit and money supply are expanding, so there is a natural tendency for prices to continue to go up, because with the amount of money and credit is growing slightly faster (hopefully) than the amount of goods. So, there is an incentive for people to buy things now -- because if purchases are postponed, the price will go up in the future. Increasing prices means that corporate revenue lines are stable, since they can count on people wanting to make the purchase now.

    Deflation is a much different animal -- because the contraction in money and credit leads to people putting off purchases. As Dennis Gartman once put it in a missive -- how many suits will you sell if you put up a sign that says "suits on sale next week"? You won't sell any, because people would rather wait to purchase. Once a deflationary phenomena sets in -- people are actually rewarded for delaying purchases, and so they don't make them.. Corporate revenue lines decline, forcing them to cut prices, which can start a deflationary spiral... People expect lower prices, then they get them, so they wait longer for even cheaper prices -- and commerce altogether stops. Deflation is very, very destructive.

    Most of the policies we have are trying to target deflationary pressures and encourage present day consumption. Buy a house now to get the housing tax credit. Buy a car now to get clunker credit. Even the Fed's agency mortgage purchase program is designed to get people to take advantage of the lower interest rates. Some of them are effective -- but they are short term stop gap measures. The issue real money supply and credit... and credit is contracting at a pretty good pace -- not only because of credit tightening by the banks, but also because of a lack of demand for credit.

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    "Real money" is precious metal, real estate, or something that appreciates in value over time. Governments can play all the games they want with currency but that will never change real value.
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    Appreciates relative to what?

    Quote Originally Posted by wwwtractor View Post
    "Real money" is precious metal, real estate, or something that appreciates in value over time. Governments can play all the games they want with currency but that will never change real value.

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    Everything else.
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    Fine then, everything else. But as far as I can tell, everything else is priced in currency.

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    Land is only worth as much as someone will pay for it. People have changed their minds in the past couple years about what they can afford. there is intrinsic productive value associated with farmland but only if somebody farms it. Try living in a town dependent on gold-mining. I did. Saw the boom and saw the bust in RE while I lived there. That was awhile back, not recently. Figure the boom is back at this point, haven't kept track.


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    "Precious" metals are overrated - the reselling of stolen copper pipe and buying of gold jewelery proves it. The actual worth of the metal is the price it sells for when used to create something, not where someone thinks the price is going to go, IMNSHO. I am biased since I have to work with manufacturers who can't stand the crazy gold prices (try to make electronics w/o gold).
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