Thread: Intrepid_Timer's PUBLIC Account Talk

Let's try this one more time. I'm just going to this here for future reference. These are documented returns, not back tested.

These are some of my ETF returns outside of TSP. I typically recommend subscribers use UPRO for buy signals and TLT for sell signals as it is a more conservative approach and one is never actually short anything. A more aggressive approach is to use ERX for buy signals and ERY for sell signals.

UPRO and TLT returns:

2015: 53.02%
2014: 38.36%
2013: 68.02%
2012: 117.64%

ERX and ERY returns:

2015: 122.28%
2014: 20.69%
2013: 114.70%
2012: 155.92%

I still expect better, but hey, no one's perfect................

Just holy cow on these returns. Are they serious? people are really getting this kind of return? That is one hell of a gain. Is there anyway to do this with 401K money? and why are we all not seeing this? Just too much risk?

Originally Posted by offroad

Just holy cow on these returns. Are they serious? people are really getting this kind of return? That is one hell of a gain. Is there anyway to do this with 401K money? and why are we all not seeing this? Just too much risk?

They are serious. Like I said, it's all documented I have 100's of witnesses. As long as one has one followed my system's signals and bought at sold at, or near, the close for the day, they have had very similar returns with these mentioned ETFs. If one can trade 3X ETFs like the these, they can be traded with 401K money. If not, then they can simply transfer that into a self directed online broker, like Scottrade, TD Ameritrade, or whatever. As long as they are eligible that is. I've always recommended one start a Roth IRA too if they don't have one.

I don't understand the "why are we all not seeing this" question. Do you mean with TSP? That is pretty obvious really with the IFT limits and all. If you are talking about why no one is mentioning it, well, we don't brag like some do. Would you? Plus we are struggling so far this year, but the year isn't over yet. I only bring it up so others have something to compare their returns outside of TSP to. I also have a few openings as some are dropping out because my system has struggled this year. The IMF changed the game on me at the end of Nov, so I had to make some adjustments. Still expecting some very solid gains once again at the end of the year...............

NUGT is currently up another 4% today and over 336.00% for the year. Don't you wish we had more investment options with TSP? I do.......................

NUGT gives me shivers....

Originally Posted by love-to-bike

NUGT gives me shivers....

Just set it and forget it till August, then jump into DUST for about 6 months and you'll be good to go. Easy peasy.............

NUGT now up 585% for the year. If you were gonna buy and hold something, that would have been the one to do it....................

Originally Posted by Intrepid_Timer

NUGT now up 585% for the year. If you were gonna buy and hold something, that would have been the one to do it....................

I'd be careful holding a 3x etf for months. (Decay)

Originally Posted by userque

I'd be careful holding a 3x etf for months. (Decay)

Why? If it's going up, who cares about "decay"? I've been holding TNA for a month now, no decay as far as I can tell.....up is up.

Originally Posted by Intrepid_Timer

Why? If it's going up, who cares about "decay"? I've been holding TNA for a month now, no decay as far as I can tell.....up is up.

You're right, "up is up."

Some 3x'ers are better than others, decay wise. I think TNA and TZA don't slam you like those gold or VIX leveraged funds, but there is still decay...

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/understan...ay-part/597928