Free at Last, Free at Last......

**The HalfBreed** · 06-24-2009, 03:01 AM

Thank God Almighty......

Now that I have your attention....Last year, I saw on youtube what appears to be a working project of an Air Powered Car. If we can keep even HALF of what we send overseas to Oil Producing nations.....

Viability ? Free from Propane/Gasoline/Ethanol etc ???

What Say Ye !?!?!?

**Buster** · 06-24-2009, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by The HalfBreed

Thank God Almighty......

Now that I have your attention....Last year, I saw on youtube what appears to be a working project of an Air Powered Car. If we can keep even HALF of what we send overseas to Oil Producing nations.....

Viability ? Free from Propane/Gasoline/Ethanol etc ???

What Say Ye !?!?!?

HB, That is cool stuff..thanks for sharing.

I can see the practicality with these as a daily commuter/secondary car...Hope they become a reality...One would fit just nicely in the 3rd car stall next to the HUMMER.

**nnuut** · 06-24-2009, 02:23 PM

And what type of energy do we use to compress the air? Kind of reminds me of a Perpetual Motion Machine.

**Buster** · 06-24-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by nnuut

And what type of energy do we use to compress the air? Kind of reminds me of a Perpetual Motion Machine.

Umm..That would be in most cases "Electrical Energy"..vertually pennies in cost to charge up a car with compressed air....And if you actually watched the top Video..the car they are designing will charge the air cylinders while it's driving around.

**The HalfBreed** · 06-24-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by nnuut

And what type of energy do we use to compress the air? Kind of reminds me of a Perpetual Motion Machine.

Got an Air compressor in the garage ?

Heck, even if you ran a small on board chainsaw engine (110cc) to compress air, what amount of fuel would it use, comparatively speaking (to a 4 or 6 cyl gas engine)?

But, IF this can be accomplished for local commuting (100 or 200 mile capability) and the price is near 10K or so, I suspect it would be a best seller. Imagine......filling up your car the same as you would put Air into the tire !

And we ALL know that, there's no such thing as a "Perpetual Motion Machine" that I'm aware of, correct ? Nothing is 100% efficient....

**Steadygain** · 06-24-2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by The HalfBreed

And we ALL know that, there's no such thing as a "Perpetual Motion Machine" that I'm aware of, correct ? Nothing is 100% efficient....

Humm that's a tricky question. There may not be one currently available but that certainly does not mean they can't exist.

Let's take (THE AIR) mode of energy - you're hoping will 'free us'.

There is no doubt that vehicles could be re-designed to utilize 'WIND ENERGY'. Say like the WIND TURBINES currently in use and spreading throughout the land.

If smaller TURBINES were designed to take advantage of the WIND created by a moving vehicle it would generate the energy to keep it moving forward - which would generate more energy - and thus a Perpetual Motion Machine would not be a difficult goal to accomplish. But that could be done in numerous ways.

Nothing is 100% efficient. Many houses today are more than 100% Effecient - and can actually sell the excess energy to the Power Companies. Not only that but houses can actually be designed to be in 'perfect harmony' with the Planet - an art mainly utilized in China.

**Viva La Migra** · 06-24-2009, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by The HalfBreed

Got an Air compressor in the garage ?

Heck, even if you ran a small on board chainsaw engine (110cc) to compress air, what amount of fuel would it use, comparatively speaking (to a 4 or 6 cyl gas engine)?

But, IF this can be accomplished for local commuting (100 or 200 mile capability) and the price is near 10K or so, I suspect it would be a best seller. Imagine......filling up your car the same as you would put Air into the tire !

The other question is, can it go freeway speeds? It's not enough to be able to go 200 miles if it can't go faster than thirty miles per hour. If you're not going seventy-five in California, you'll get run over!

**nnuut** · 06-24-2009, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Viva La Migra

The other question is, can it go freeway speeds? It's not enough to be able to go 200 miles if it can't go faster than thirty miles per hour. If you're not going seventy-five in California, you'll get run over!

Yep I've got a 60 gal 5 HP Air Compressor in my garage. Just a little careful when someone tells me that a car can run on compressed air and generate enough air while driving to continue driving forever. All you have to do is give it one spin and it will go forever!!

I want one, you pay the Air TAX!!

**Frixxxx** · 06-24-2009, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Viva La Migra

The other question is, can it go freeway speeds? It's not enough to be able to go 200 miles if it can't go faster than thirty miles per hour. If you're not going seventy-five in California, you'll get run over!

Which reminds me....get over VLM...you're blockin me!!!!!

**nnuut** · 06-25-2009, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by Steadygain

Humm that's a tricky question. There may not be one currently available but that certainly does not mean they can't exist.

Let's take (THE AIR) mode of energy - you're hoping will 'free us'.

There is no doubt that vehicles could be re-designed to utilize 'WIND ENERGY'. Say like the WIND TURBINES currently in use and spreading throughout the land.

If smaller TURBINES were designed to take advantage of the WIND created by a moving vehicle it would generate the energy to keep it moving forward - which would generate more energy - and thus a Perpetual Motion Machine would not be a difficult goal to accomplish. But that could be done in numerous ways.

Nothing is 100% efficient. Many houses today are more than 100% Effecient - and can actually sell the excess energy to the Power Companies. Not only that but houses can actually be designed to be in 'perfect harmony' with the Planet - an art mainly utilized in China.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...2104708AAjRLAz
Why cant car's used windmill technology and electricity and solar power?

That's what I was talking about!!! NAH!

**Handballer** · 06-25-2009, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by The HalfBreed

Got an Air compressor in the garage ?

Heck, even if you ran a small on board chainsaw engine (110cc) to compress air, what amount of fuel would it use, comparatively speaking (to a 4 or 6 cyl gas engine)?

But, IF this can be accomplished for local commuting (100 or 200 mile capability) and the price is near 10K or so, I suspect it would be a best seller. Imagine......filling up your car the same as you would put Air into the tire !

And we ALL know that, there's no such thing as a "Perpetual Motion Machine" that I'm aware of, correct ? Nothing is 100% efficient....

I wouldn't risk my family's safety in one of these 10K vehicles. I guess it would run on high test air. Maybe GMC will capture the market for this new type of vehicle and have them maid in China.

**wwwtractor** · 06-25-2009, 03:05 AM

I happen to be an engineer and a nurse. In science there are laws which can not be broken. If you want to know about real laws ask a doctor, scientist or engineer. Laws of life, nature, gravity, mechanics, thermodynamics, etc. can never be broken without consequences. Try breaking one of those and see what happens.

In law, politics, government, etc. there are rules which are made to be broken. If you want to know about those ask a lawyer about rules that can be broken with no consequences depending upon the person and their station in life.

Everything is "free" as long as you can use another person's resources to pay for it.

http://delicious.com/wwwtractor/laws