Thread: Subliminal Advertising for Barack Obama

Sorry Five Tears, I think you are hearing things.

Um, and why exactly are you watching "Legally Blonde 2: Red White & Blonde " anyway?

If I tried to do that in my house, I am sure I would get the "stare" from the Mrs.

You know the "stare"?

(This is a joke- please no PM messages from all you HE-MEN about what my wife lets me watch in my own household....yada yada yada...)

Originally Posted by Fivetears

Has anyone watched today’s TV advertisement the TNT Channel for the premier running of Legally Blonde 2: Red White & Blonde in Texas? About 10 seconds into the Commercial, it sounds like the narrator says Barack Obama in the midst of the commercial script. That’s pretty $hitty of TNT if it's what I hear.

I wouldn't put anything past any of the presidential candidates . The money they have put into this campaign is staggering and at this point, each of them are going to do whatever it takes to get elected. The nice guy will probably finish last.

What I don't understand at all is why the democrats fight the legistation to require identification to be shown before someone votes. Let me rephrase that. I understand why they might want to fight it, but with all due respect, how can they justifying it? Someone help me out. I have to believe that I am missing something because it makes no sense to me.

Originally Posted by tsptalk

I have to believe that I am missing something because it makes no sense to me.

I don't understand it either, but you're not missing a thing, no photo ID equals game playing at the voting booth.


CB

I could say something bi-sexual but I won't.

Originally Posted by Birchtree

I could say something bi-sexual but I won't.

Whew!

Originally Posted by tsptalk

What I don't understand at all is why the democrats fight the legistation to require identification to be shown before someone votes. Let me rephrase that. I understand why they might want to fight it, but with all due respect, how can they justifying it? Someone help me out. I have to believe that I am missing something because it makes no sense to me.

I'll try and put out the argument here- First, I must say that I am a white american, and have no first hand experince in dealing with the racial issues some minorities say they experience. So all I can do is relay what has been explained to me as best I can.

I had a long talk with another military officer I served with a number of years back on this subject.

He came from an urban area, and had some good insight. One of the reasons he said was that many African-Americans don't actually have ID. The old, the young, those who don't drive, etc. While much of America has a driver's license and is depenant on the car, much (well, a significant number, anyway) of the minority community is not. It's viewed by some of them as one more way "the man" can try to take away the right to vote. Another thing is (he explained to me) that while it is common for whites to move and change their voting address when re-registering a car, or changing an address on a driver's license, in his community is was not so common. Sometimes people moved to live where they had to live, and didn't change an addess with anyone official. Again, part of it is no license offices in the community- and no car. So it is difficult to change your address several times between elections. He said within his community, it was common practice that "you came from someplace, so even if you move around, you always come back to vote there". People may move many times, but election time was the one time when they came back to the neighborhood where they voted, and cast their vote. However, if there are poll challengers, and the poll challenger asks you to prove you live where your voter ID says you do, well, that can lead to someone not being able to vote.

I don't know the factual basis for this, I only can relate what I have learned from asking about this issue. It certainly gave me interesting perspective on the lives of those less fortunate in our society. If I had not asked, I would have simply assumed that there was an effort to rig the voting. I now know the issue is FAR more complicated than that, and for knowing that, I feel I have learned a lot.

That's why you see Donkeys driving buses on election day.

Does anyone else think all that money could be better spent ? :P

James, great insight. This is beyond a race issue. It is a socioeconomic issue, and probably even a big city issue. I also come from a poor background and can say this is definitely true. All throughout my childhood, we did not have a car. We took the bus or the subway if we needed to go downtown (Philly). Everything else is just in our neighborhood. A lot of poor people do not have ID. In New York City, even middle class families do not have cars. The subway gets you everywhere. My wife did not get her driver's license until she was 29. I know plenty of New Yorkers without licenses. It just never occurred to them to even try. Big cities like New York, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles tend to have a big Democrat population. So, I can understand why the Democrats are pushing the issue.

Originally Posted by James48843

I'll try and put out the argument here- First, I must say that I am a white american, and have no first hand experince in dealing with the racial issues some minorities say they experience. So all I can do is relay what has been explained to me as best I can.

I had a long talk with another military officer I served with a number of years back on this subject.

He came from an urban area, and had some good insight. One of the reasons he said was that many African-Americans don't actually have ID. The old, the young, those who don't drive, etc. While much of America has a driver's license and is depenant on the car, much (well, a significant number, anyway) of the minority community is not. It's viewed by some of them as one more way "the man" can try to take away the right to vote. Another thing is (he explained to me) that while it is common for whites to move and change their voting address when re-registering a car, or changing an address on a driver's license, in his community is was not so common. Sometimes people moved to live where they had to live, and didn't change an addess with anyone official. Again, part of it is no license offices in the community- and no car. So it is difficult to change your address several times between elections. He said within his community, it was common practice that "you came from someplace, so even if you move around, you always come back to vote there". People may move many times, but election time was the one time when they came back to the neighborhood where they voted, and cast their vote. However, if there are poll challengers, and the poll challenger asks you to prove you live where your voter ID says you do, well, that can lead to someone not being able to vote.

I don't know the factual basis for this, I only can relate what I have learned from asking about this issue. It certainly gave me interesting perspective on the lives of those less fortunate in our society. If I had not asked, I would have simply assumed that there was an effort to rig the voting. I now know the issue is FAR more complicated than that, and for knowing that, I feel I have learned a lot.