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    Quote Originally Posted by seven View Post
    I guess I've been doing somewhere between LBMF & LBMF-1. Being 12 or 13hrs ahead of the east coast it gets hard to do on the right day & I've been doing it a day early for awhile. It has worked out pretty good as I got a 20.75% return for 2012 so I think I'll just go ahead declare myself full on LBMF-1 (for now at least).
    Sounds like maybe we're in the same part of the world. I stay up way past my bedtime though. ZZZzzz...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus View Post
    That's awsome, seven! You beat LMBF for 2012 which itself had an impresive return. Did you by any chance follow the method for 2011? LMBF beat LMBF-1 hansomely that year, but it's the long term results that count.
    No, but I'm glad you asked as that got me looking closer into my history & I realized I didn't actually follow LMBF for all of 2012.

    I was a new hire in 2011 and started in Lifecycle fund through Q1 of 2012 which is when I found out about LMBF. Initially, I was trying a modified version of LMBF I thought of, but I decided it was more work & didn't seem worth it so I gave up on it pretty quick. So, I've probably only been doing LMBF (or LMBF-1) for about 7 or 8 months.

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    Looks like another good 1st day of the month for the LMBF-1.

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    I went a day early a la LMBF-1 tho I had the same thought you had about the S Fund having a good run up... but the point of being mechanical is to ignore these signs and just follow the method. I'll take the +0.92 rise in the S Fund today instead of missing it like the non LBMF-1ers did.

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    Yep, LMBF & LMBF-1 are both tracking The S Fund for Feb, but LMBF-1 benefited this time from getting on board a day earlier. It will be interesting to see how many times that happens this year.

    You are right, Hallatauer, that the point of these types of methods is to follow them mechanically instead of inserting our own logic into them. I guess I'm still in the mode of analyzing them.
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    2020 31.85%,2019 27.97%,2018 -3.36%,2017 13.10%, 2016 -1.79%, 5Yr Avg 12.61%

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    OK,here are the monthly returns as of 2/27/13.

    Date G FUND F FUND C FUND S FUND I FUND
    27-Feb-2013 0.12% 0.43% 1.44% 0.91% (1.46%)

    The best fund is C so LMBF-1 goes into the C Fund by noon eastern tomorrow. And to think just yesterday the F Fund was in the lead. What a difference a day makes. We'll have to see if this trend continues tomorrow for LMBF.
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    2020 31.85%,2019 27.97%,2018 -3.36%,2017 13.10%, 2016 -1.79%, 5Yr Avg 12.61%


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    Very interesting. When I see the C fund outperforming the S fund, it gives me bearish thoughts. Or it could mean that there is a rally ahead and the small caps have some catching up to do. Whatever the case may be, I doubt the C fund will string two months in a row as the top performer. Nevertheless, the system is what it is. Thanks for keeping it up.

    BTW, do you have it on the auto tracker?

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    Tho you may have nagging feelings about moving to the C Fund, it's the move to make. With possible furloughs on the gov't horizon and doubts about this rise being sustained, mechanical investing like this strategy ignores the news.

    I made my interfund transfer request this morning so it will be in effect for Feb 28th. LBMF-1 in force.

    Happy investing ya'll!

    P.S. I have a buyer for my house and I will be retiring probably the end of April. Tho I will stop contributing to my TSP, I will stay invested and managing my money.

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    I'm giving it a shot, I just moved all into the "C" fund... woot!!!

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    Interesting thought, Sensei. I went back to the charts at the beginning of this thread, and the C Fund is the only fund that has never had 2 consecutive months in LMBF and it only happened once for LMBF-1. Here is the count of the funds that have followed C in LMBF-1.

    G 0
    F 1
    C 1
    S 8
    I 2

    As you can see, 8 times out of 12 the S Fund follows C. That happens way more then any other fund. I don't know if this means anything, but since we never follow with the G fund and only once with the F fund I wouldn't consider C outperforming S to be a bearish sign. It looks more like S has some catching up to do.

    I don't have LMBF-1 on auto tracker, yet. I've been thinking about it, but am concerned that the name is too similar to LMBF and may cause confusion. LMBF-1 would show up a day before LMBF and someone not realizing this isn't the LMBF method they had been following might trade on the wrong signal. If LMBF-1 is worth persuing on auto tracker, the name may have to change to something like LMBF-1day to differentiate it some more. Any thoughts?
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    2020 31.85%,2019 27.97%,2018 -3.36%,2017 13.10%, 2016 -1.79%, 5Yr Avg 12.61%

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    Interesting thought, Sensei. I went back to the charts at the beginning of this thread, and the C Fund is the only fund that has never had 2 consecutive months in LMBF and it only happened once for LMBF-1. Here is the count of the funds that have followed C in LMBF-1.

    G
    F 1
    C 1
    S 8
    I 2

    As you can see, 8 times out of 12 the S Fund follows C.


    Well that's not very encouraging

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    Quote Originally Posted by czapor1967 View Post
    Well that's not very encouraging
    That's the problem with analysing these mechanical systems. Does it really mean anything? All I can say is that both LMBF & LMBF-1 have been outperforming me this year. I'm thinking of spliting the difference and going in 50:50 CS today.
    Allocations as of COB Dec 28 : 100% S. | Retirement Date:Dec 2025
    Past Returns:
    2020 31.85%,2019 27.97%,2018 -3.36%,2017 13.10%, 2016 -1.79%, 5Yr Avg 12.61%

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