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    What stock would you be buying? for some reason i think McDonald is a an awesome buy in a recession/crash/end of the world type scenario.


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    McD's is a good one, and defensives like Johnson & Johnson and Procter & Gamble are better than tech, but I like the 0% stock approach.

    Cramer says, "there is a bull market somewhere" but I prefer trading to investing in a bear market (or a bull market). It's safer.

    You may have seen Revshark's blog post on why he doesn't buy and hold... http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/blogs/revs...-buy-hold.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsptalk View Post
    McD's is a good one, and defensives like Johnson & Johnson and Procter & Gamble are better than tech, but I like the 0% stock approach.

    Cramer says, "there is a bull market somewhere" but I prefer trading to investing in a bear market (or a bull market). It's safer.

    You may have seen Revshark's blog post on why he doesn't buy and hold... http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/blogs/revs...-buy-hold.html

    the 0% approach?

    I dont like the idea of buying and hold either but due to being inexperience i'll just have to take what i can to protect my investment.

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    When McDonalds was first around nationally, I remember walking into the store, with a dollar and getting a full lunch with enough for a candy bar left over for the walk home. Their menu was short and sweet.

    Now with the choices that people have, I'm afraid that fast food companies don't offer the growth they once did. Also, if we hit this global recession again, I see a few of those chains being bought out or run out of town.

    I see two fields that will survive the test of time - Pharma and technology.

    Unfortunately, these have been volatile based on area of research and deployment. Almost identical in economic indicators.

    That being said, since Oracle corporation has been successful the last six years and have started paying dividends (albeit not huge) I recommend them from a technological standpoint as having a nice hold on the market of information storage and access. Plus they are embedded in the web with Java and all their functionality.

    Anyway, look forward to more suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frixxxx View Post
    When McDonalds was first around nationally, I remember walking into the store, with a dollar and getting a full lunch with enough for a candy bar left over for the walk home. Their menu was short and sweet.

    Now with the choices that people have, I'm afraid that fast food companies don't offer the growth they once did. Also, if we hit this global recession again, I see a few of those chains being bought out or run out of town.

    I see two fields that will survive the test of time - Pharma and technology.

    Unfortunately, these have been volatile based on area of research and deployment. Almost identical in economic indicators.

    That being said, since Oracle corporation has been successful the last six years and have started paying dividends (albeit not huge) I recommend them from a technological standpoint as having a nice hold on the market of information storage and access. Plus they are embedded in the web with Java and all their functionality.

    Anyway, look forward to more suggestions.
    really? i thought if we're in global rescession McDonald going to be the hit since its cheap lol and people got to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by law87 View Post
    really? i thought if we're in global rescession McDonald going to be the hit since its cheap lol and people got to eat.
    Assuming they have the money to go there! In the 90's I mentioned to a friend that the majority of jobs in the U.S. would be service oriented. Well, we're there and it doesn't seem the rest of the world is vacationing enough here. So, that being said, I wonder where the next inject of funds are coming for the masses?
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    Buy McDonalds until caffeine is banned. They've widened their margin with coffee sales alone.

    The problem with so called 'defensive' stocks is that retirees have plowed into them for the dividend, pushing up the P/E's.

    Recession proof portfolio: MRK, DEO, WMT, RTN, EXC. (Drugs, Booze, Chinese Crap, Guns, Electricity)

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    Quote Originally Posted by law87 View Post
    What stock would you be buying? for some reason i think McDonald is a an awesome buy in a recession/crash/end of the world type scenario.
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    Sturm, Ruger and Company (RGR) is headquartered in Southport, Connecticut and has factories in Prescott, Arizona and Newport, New Hampshire. Its stock trades on the New York Stock Exchange. In terms of market capitalization, Ruger is larger than Smith and Wesson - $736 million versus $309 million - but has about $100 million less in annual gross revenues. Ruger has been doing well and is on track to become the first firearms manufacturer to sell one million firearms in a one year period. The stock has also been doing well. Over the last two years, Ruger's stock price has risen 250% and it closed around $45 per share today.


    Smith and Wesson Holding Company (SWHC) is headquartered in Springfield, Massachusetts. They moved their Thompson Center manufacturing to Springfield from New Hampshire. Smith and Wesson also has non-firearms operations in Houlton, Maine and Franklin, Tennessee. The company is also a leading manufacturer of handcuffs and products through their Security Solutions division. Smith and Wesson has a smaller market cap than Ruger but has about $100 million more in annual revenues. However, when it comes to profitability, Ruger both has a higher profit margin and more profits than Smith and Wesson. The stock price of SWHC reflects this.
    It has had a huge runup lately and is now trading at $9.88 a share. Not sure where it is headed from here.

    See No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money: Investing In Guns And Ammo for more info about ammo makers Olin (Winchester and Western Cartridge) , and Alliant Technologies (ATK) , maker of Federal and CCI ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James48843 View Post
    Sturm, Ruger and Company (RGR) is headquartered in Southport, Connecticut and has factories in Prescott, Arizona and Newport, New Hampshire. Its stock trades on the New York Stock Exchange. In terms of market capitalization, Ruger is larger than Smith and Wesson - $736 million versus $309 million - but has about $100 million less in annual gross revenues. Ruger has been doing well and is on track to become the first firearms manufacturer to sell one million firearms in a one year period. The stock has also been doing well. Over the last two years, Ruger's stock price has risen 250% and it closed around $45 per share today.


    Smith and Wesson Holding Company (SWHC) is headquartered in Springfield, Massachusetts. They moved their Thompson Center manufacturing to Springfield from New Hampshire. Smith and Wesson also has non-firearms operations in Houlton, Maine and Franklin, Tennessee. The company is also a leading manufacturer of handcuffs and products through their Security Solutions division. Smith and Wesson has a smaller market cap than Ruger but has about $100 million more in annual revenues. However, when it comes to profitability, Ruger both has a higher profit margin and more profits than Smith and Wesson. The stock price of SWHC reflects this.
    It has had a huge runup lately and is now trading at $9.88 a share. Not sure where it is headed from here.

    See No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money: Investing In Guns And Ammo for more info about ammo makers Olin (Winchester and Western Cartridge) , and Alliant Technologies (ATK) , maker of Federal and CCI ammo.
    I'd add Brown Foreman Spirits (BF/A), maker of Jack Daniels. We got just about everything covered in a market crash scenario. Guns, Ammo, Booze...are there any stocks out there for "Gentlemen's Clubs?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva_La_Migra View Post
    ...are there any stocks out there for "Gentlemen's Clubs?"
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