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    It's really sickening how some people are so trigger-happy to falsely label others as radicals, extremists or hot-headed revolutionists for merely exercising their constitutional rights to be armed, or for that matter, for organizing to express their disagreement with the government's plans to take away or restrict those rights. CB, it's good to hear that you found some people who still support and believe in the constitution and what it stands for. If the liberal media was our only source of information, you would have to conclude that such people no longer exist.

    Ammo is still on the endangered species list here, especially for 380. My brother finally found some in-stock online this week from a manufacturer (Corbon), and ordered six boxes. Later, the same day, he called them back to order 4 more boxes (for his boss) and they checked the inventory and confirmed the order for 10 boxes. Then, they called him back and said they could only ship the original 6 boxes since that was all they actually had left. It's hard to believe that these ammo factories are not increasing production to meet the demand. Makes me a little suspicious, to say the least.

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    My daughter made friends with the lady clerk at one of the local Wal Marts the other day and the lady said she could'nt lay any ammo back for us, but she said she would call us when they got in another shipment. They tend to arrive early in the morning and is sold by 7am. Anyhoo, my daughter got a call at 5:45am this morning and she ran out and bought 2 cases of 9mm ammo, bless her heart. That ammo has be as scarce as hens teeth the past month. I even stopped at Cabelas last week on the way back from NH and they didn't have any 9mm or .380 ammo on their shelves.

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    Remember CANDIDATE bHo? The guy who "wasn't going to take away
    our guns"?

    Well, guess what?

    Less than 100 days into his administration, he's never met a gun he didn't hate.

    A week ago, after his "Apology for America Tour" in Europe and kowtowing to the Saudi Prince, Obama went to Mexico, whined about the United States again, and bemoaned (before the whole world) the fact that he didn't have the political power to take away our semi-automatics. Nevertheless, that
    didn't keep him from pushing additional restrictions on American gun
    owners.

    It's called the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials. To be sure, this imponderable title masks a really nasty piece of work.

    First of all, when the treaty purports to ban the "illicit" manufacture of firearms, what does that mean?

    1. "Illicit manufacturing" of firearms is defined as "assembly of firearms [or] ammunition... without a license...."

    Hence, reloading ammunition -- or putting together a lawful firearm from a kit -- is clearly "illicit manufacturing."

    Modifying a firearm in any way would surely be "illicit manufacturing." And, while it would be a stretch, assembling a firearm after cleaning it
    could, in any plain reading of the words, come within the screwy definition of "illicit manufacturing."

    2. "Firearm" has a similarly questionable definition. "[A]ny other weapon" is a "firearm," according to the treaty -- and the
    term "weapon" is nowhere defined.

    So, is a BB gun a "firearm"? Probably. A toy gun? Possibly.

    A pistol grip or firing pin? Probably. And who knows what else. If these provisions (and others) become the law of the land, the Obama
    administration could have a heyday in enforcing them. Consider some of the other provisions in the treaty:

    * Banning Reloading. In Article IV of the treaty, countries commit to adopting "necessary legislative or other measures" to criminalize illicit manufacturing and trafficking in firearms.

    Remember that "illicit manufacturing" includes reloading and modifying or assembling a firearm in any way. This would mean that the Obama administration could promulgate regulations banning reloading on the basis of this treaty -- just as it is currently circumventing Congress to write legislation taxing greenhouse gases.

    * Banning Gun Clubs. Article IV goes on to state that the criminalized acts should include "association or conspiracy" in connection with said offenses -- which is arguably a term broad enough to allow, by regulation, the criminalization of entire pro-gun organizations or gun clubs, based on the facilities which they provide their membership.

    * Extraditing US Gun Dealers. Article V requires each party to "adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention" under a variety of circumstances.

    We know that Mexico is blaming U.S. gun dealers for the fact that its streets are flowing with blood. And we know it is possible for Mexico to define ffenses "committed in its territory" in a very broad way. And we know that we have an extradition obligation under Article XIX of the proposed treaty. So we know that Mexico could try to use the treaty to demand to extradition of American gun dealers.

    Under Article XXIX, if Mexico demands the extradition of a lawful American gun dealer, the U.S. would be required to resolve the dispute through "other means of peaceful settlement."

    Does anyone want to risk twenty years in a sweltering Mexican jail on the proposition that the Obama administration would apply this provision in a pro-gun manner?

    * Microstamping. Article VI requires "appropriate markings" on firearms. And, it is not inconceivable that this provision could be used to require microstamping of firearms and/or ammunition -- a requirement which is clearly intended to impose specifications which are not technologically possible or which are possible only at a prohibitively expensive cost.

    * Gun Registration. Article XI requires the maintenance of any records, for a "reasonable time," that the government determines to be necessary to trace firearms. This provision would almost certainly repeal portions of McClure-Volkmer and could arguably be used to require a national registry or database.

    ACTION: Write your Senators and urge them to oppose the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms,
    Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.

    Yeah I know the treaty has not yet been abused in this way by the bevy of Third World countries which have signed it. I wouldn't expect the real ramifications of the treaty to become clear until the big prize -- the U.S. -- has stepped into the trap. That's the prize that the UN wants and bHo is determined to deliver.


    Folks, for those of you that think bHo can't take away our Constitutional rights, well you're wrong and all gun haters ans socialist will love this. He'll take our rights away one by one by going thru the back door and putting sympathic judges on the various courts that support these socialist views.

    This guy is a compulsive liar and the writing is plain as the nose on your face and one of these days, some folks that are asleep at the switch will wake up and wonder what happened

    CB
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