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    Lightbulb Let's Talk About F, Babee

    http://www.tsp.gov/rates/history_2000.html

    Compare F returns to (1) Falling Interest Rates (2000-2003), (2)Deepening Recession (2001-2003), and
    (3) Oil Prices (what were they doing 2001-2003.....I think they were falling in 2001)

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    We are in a sort of uncertain spot right now. If I am right, this correction in the stock funds is not finished. Maybe they are being held up a bit by the end-of-month attempt at window dressing. The stock funds are less overbought now. However, some technical indicators like the NYSE and Nasdaq overbought/oversold oscillators appear to have some more downside to go before showing better oversold levels. I am not certain how to play the bond funds. What opinions are out there regarding whether conditions will favor a sustained and better performance by the F fund (AGG) vs. the G fund?

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    Default Re: Let's Talk About F, Babee

    Looks good for the "F" Monday may add more worries?

    BOND REPORT
    Treasurys rally after weaker than expected ISM data

    By Wanfeng Zhou, MarketWatch
    Last Update: 10:40 AM ET Dec 1, 2006




    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Treasury prices rose sharply Friday, sending the benchmark yield to its lowest level since January, after a report showed factory activity in the United States contracted in November for the first time in more than three years.
    The Institute for Supply Management reported Friday that its manufacturing index fell to 49.5% in November from 51.2% in October. The decline was unexpected. The consensus forecast of estimates collected by Marketwatch was for the index to rise to 51.8%. Readings below 50 indicate contraction.
    This is the first time the index has been below the 50 threshold since April 2003, said David Ader, government bond strategist at RBS Greenwich Capital. "This is one of the criteria we want to see in order to say the [Federal Reserve] can ease."
    The disappointing ISM data come a day after a report showed the Chicago purchasing managers index fell to 49.9% in November from 53.5% in October. Economists were expecting the index to rebound slightly to 54.4%. See full story.

    Separately, spending on U.S. construction projects dropped by 1.0% in October, as outlays on private residential construction matched a low hit in July 2006, the Commerce Department said. The decline beat the 0.3% drop expected by economists surveyed by MarketWatch.
    The federal funds futures showed that the Fed will cut its overnight interest rate target to 5% from 5.25% in the first quarter of 2007. The odds of a cut in March moved to 62% from just under 50% following the ISM release. The Fed has always cut rates when the ISM falls below 50% on a sustained basis. The market is also pricing in small odds of a further cut to 4.75% in May.
    Several Federal Reserve officials including Chicago Fed President Michael Moskow and Richmond Fed President Jeffrey Lacker are due to speak later in the session.
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    Thanks NNuut.

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    The Feds are out talking hawkish, trying to save the dollar. Lets hope the bond traders are smart enough to ignore this yak.

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    The F fund has got about as much play room as a tight girdle.

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    Bill Gross of Pimco Bonds looking for $TNX down to 2.50 - 3.00 next year. Thinks Fed has to cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUTURESTRADER View Post
    Bill Gross of Pimco Bonds looking for $TNX down to 2.50 - 3.00 next year. Thinks Fed has to cut.
    I didn't catch the interview, did he say when they will start cutting? January? March?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350zCommTech View Post
    I didn't catch the interview, did he say when they will start cutting? January? March?
    I missed that most salient point , however CNBC now online, live! @ u guessed, it cnbc.com, and here is the interview!

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=150570210&play=1


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    Quote Originally Posted by FUTURESTRADER View Post
    I missed that most salient point , however CNBC now online, live! @ u guessed, it cnbc.com, and here is the interview!

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=150570210&play=1
    Thanks for the link, but it looks like you have to register to look at it.

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    Sorry about that, bogus CNBC...What I thought I heard Gross say was that the Fed will have to start changing their rhetoric now to prepare for cuts in 07

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUTURESTRADER View Post
    Sorry about that, bogus CNBC...What I thought I heard Gross say was that the Fed will have to start changing their rhetoric now to prepare for cuts in 07
    I would completely agree with that. The F Fund will definitley do well that day. The big question is how will the market handle the change in rhetoric? A bear would say, "Yup, the Feds are now worry about the economy." A bull would say, " Yup, a cut in interest rates will help stimulate the economy and provide a soft landing."

    My personel opinion is that the Feds went to far and will now be too late when they lower rates. A hard landing is coming. But unfortunately, I don't control the market. Right now, the bulls are running the show. And if you look at the previous recession, the market will rally on the initial rate cuts.

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