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    Quote Originally Posted by McDuck View Post
    That sounds like an urban legend being pushes by union thugs.
    Surely the Unions wouldn't do this.

    When we take back the Congress and White House the first thing we're gonna do is repeal the Wagner Act. See how the unions like that. Oh, yeah, if we repeal the Wagner Act there will BE NO MORE UNIONS.

    from St. Louis Tea Party web site:

    Union Thugs Deliver Unprovoked Beating on Black Conservative at Carnahan Town Hall
    by admin on August 7, 2009

    Email from eyewitness and attorney confirms that SEIU-logo’d thugs attacked and beat a black man for distributing Gadsen flags following a Town Hall in St. Louis County on Thursday. Race was a factor in the beating.

    Quote:August 7, 2009
    Dear Mr. Hennessy:

    I am Kenneth Gladney’s attorney. Kenneth was attacked on the evening of August 6, 2009 at Rep. Russ Carnahan’s town hall meeting in South St. Louis County. I was at the town hall meeting as well and witnessed the events leading up to the attack of Kenneth. Kenneth was approached by an SEIU representative as Kenneth was handing out “Don’t Tread on Me” flags to other conservatives. The SEIU representative demanded to know why a black man was handing out these flags. The SEIU member used a racial slur against Kenneth, then punched him in the face. Kenneth fell to the ground. Another SEIU member yelled racial epithets at Kenneth as he kicked him in the head and back. Kenneth was also brutally attacked by one other male SEIU member and an unidentified woman. The three men were clearly SEIU members, as they were wearing T-shirts with the SEIU logo.

    Kenneth was beaten badly. One assailant fled on foot; three others were arrested. Kenneth was admitted to St. John’s Mercy Medical Center emergency room, where he was treated for his numerous injuries. Kenneth was merely expressing his freedom of speech by handing out the flags. In fact, he merely asked people as they exited the town hall meeting whether they would like a flag. He in no way provoked any argument or altercation, as evidenced by the fact that three assailants were arrested.

    We hope that Kenneth fully recovers from his injuries; however, he is in great pain at this time. We will be pursuing legal action at our discretion. This was a truly senseless hate crime carried out by racist union thugs. Regretfully, Representative Carnahan’s statements blaming Kenneth for being a disruptive force are wholly untrue and slanderous. We would like to think that an elected official in Representative Carnahan’s position would gather accurate information before carelessly rushing to judgment.

    Kenneth supports conservative ideals, although he subscribes to no particular political party. We are calling on the SEIU, Representative Carnahan, and President Obama to condemn the racist actions of these union thugs. In the days to come, we will be investigating whether these thugs are working at the behest of Representative Carnahan and how strong their alliances to various organizations–such as ACORN–may be.
    We hope the St. Louis Tea Party and tea party organizations around the country will protest Representative Carnahan’s offices and also protest SEIU offices in every major city across the U.S. These Democratic strong-arm tactics must end now.

    Regards,

    Attorney David B. Brown

    The St. Louis Tea Party coalition joins in the call for apologies from Carnahan, SEIU, and President Obama. This criminal attack was inspired by DNC and BarackObama.com propaganda. Only Thursday morning, the White House promised “punch back twice as hard.” Clearly, the goons of SEIU decided to draw the first blood.

    We believe that this attack was planned and intended to create a riot to discredit the American political resistence. Luckily, the patriots who attend tea parties and town halls did not take the bait. Mr. Gladney did not fight back. Mr. Gladney, like Crispus Attucks, suffered for the promise of freedom — the freedom his race was so long denied. We salute Kenneth Gladney. We are proud that he is on our side.

    We all pray for Ken. May he recover quickly and fully from his injuries inflicted by leftist thugs in an attempt to subvert his First Amendment rights.

    TELL THE SEIU THAT WE OPPOSE VIOLENCE

    SEIU
    5585 Pershing Ave.
    Suite 130
    St. Louis, MO 63112
    PHONE: 314.367.0013
    FAX: 314.361.8704

    I haven't had the time to check Snopes, but I know it will be checked, caused the benevolent unions personel would never do this. No way, but then it might bring a different meaning to "Look for the Union Label".

    Enough fun for the day. Gotta get my targets set up

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    Arrow Cash for clunkers.

    Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car

    Auto sales analysts at Edmunds.com say the pricey program resulted in relatively few additional car sales.

    By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com senior writer
    Last Updated: October 29, 2009: 12:59 PM ET


    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A total of 690,000 new vehicles were sold under the Cash for Clunkers program last summer, but only 125,000 of those were vehicles that would not have been sold anyway, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the automotive Web site Edmunds.com.

    Still, auto sales contributed heavily to the economy's expansion in the third quarter, adding 1.7 percentage points to the nation's gross domestic product growth.

    http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/28/auto...ion=2009102910
    Socrates: "Democracy, which is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequaled alike."

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    This is similar to the Treasury give money to the Federal Reserve so that they can in turn buy Treasuries from the Treasury to keep rates artificially low. So now we have artificially raised GDP 1.7% and now that signals a recovery in progress. BAH HA HA HA!!!
    Socrates: "Democracy, which is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequaled alike."

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    The average rebate was $4,000. But the overwhelming majority of sales would have taken place anyway at some time in the last half of 2009, according to Edmunds.com. That means the government ended up spending about $24,000 each for those 125,000 additional vehicle sales.
    Brilliant!!
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    From watching TV in the hospital today, I don't believe that the "so called experts" understand that the GDP was artificially high because of the Cash for Clunkers and Welfare for first time homebuyers pushed it higher and if the Gov't ever decides to stop all this welfare (stealing our money and our kids future), then we'll really see what kind of shape we are in and it won't be pretty.

    We gotta let the economic cycle run it's course and not make the same mistake again by making money easy to come by and have folks get into debt all over again and spend more than they can afford. How stupid can we be? Some people never learn and thy name is .....

    Oh yeah, that cash for clunker cost was really expensive/efficient and ya'll want the feds to run our medical system? How much evidence do people need.

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    SEC 8K filing

    Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac Drive First GM Sales
    Increase in 21 Months
    DETROIT – A strong performance by GM’s four core brands – Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, and Cadillac – resulted in GM U.S. October sales of 177,603 vehicles, up 4 percent from last October, the company’s first year-over-year gain since January 2008. Total sales increased 13 percent when compared with September. The four brands accounted for about 95 percent of GM’s retail sales, an increase of 10 percentage points compared to the prior year.
    “We’re very pleased with consumer acceptance to our newest cars, crossovers and trucks,” said Susan Docherty, GM vice president, U.S. Sales. “While we have more work to do, we are making progress and will continue our focus on delivering vehicles and a sales and service experience that brings consumers to Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac – and keeps them coming back.”
    October quick facts:

    Total GM sales increased 4 percent compared with October, 2008; retail sales were up 15 percent for the same period.

    Year-over-year total sales increase is the first since January, 2008.

    GM gains market share for the third straight month – estimated at 21 percent of the total light vehicle market.

    Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac retail sales represented 95 percent of October retail sales vs. 85 percent in October, 2008.

    Combined Buick/GMC retail sales were up 33 percent compared with last year, driving Buick-Pontiac-GMC retail sales up 12 percent.


    Chevrolet Retail Sales Up 31 Percent
    Strong retail sales of Chevrolet’s launch vehicles – Camaro, Equinox, and Traverse – led to a year-over-year increase in total sales of 9 percent, and a 31 percent increase in retail sales for the same period.
    Chevrolet key facts:

    Malibu retail sales for Malibu were up 84 percent compared to a year ago.

    Camaro continues to distance itself from competition, selling nearly 8,000 vehicles during the month and we anticipate we will hold the top spot in the regular sports car segment.

    Corvette retains the number one position in the luxury sports car segment with nearly 28 percent of the market.

    Equinox share in compact crossover segment is growing, having more than doubled in a year to 10 percent – the highest since August, 2007; added a third shift to keep up with demand.

    Silverado total sales of 31,800 were driven by the strength of Chevrolet’s “Truck Month” promotion.
    “Chevrolet had a solid sales month in October supported by our 2009 launch products Camaro, Equinox and Traverse,” said Brent Dewar, vice president, global Chevrolet. “Our broad lineup appeals to a range of consumers, whether it’s the modern sports car, Camaro, appealing to performance enthusiasts or the Equinox and Traverse delivering what today’s families care about: safety, styling and efficiency.”
    Buick – GMC Total Sales Up 20 Percent
    Buick car and Crossover sales showed improvement in October vs. a year ago, led by the all-new LaCrosse and Enclave. Sales of the all-new GMC Terrain and GMC’s “Truck Month” promotion helped lift GMC total sales 20 percent, and retail sales 35 percent for the month, compared with last year.


    Buick key facts:

    Buick had its best total sales month for 2009 (9,053) and best since October ‘08, up 19 percent.

    LaCrosse had strongest month since launch, up 36 percent compared with September 2009, and up 103 percent compared to October 2008.

    Enclave total sales up year-over-year 38 percent.
    GMC key facts:

    GMC total sales were up 20 percent vs. October 2008, the highest monthly sales in 2009.

    Terrain total sales were up 63 percent over combined Pontiac Torrent/GMC Envoy October 2008 total sales and up 124 percent from September 2009.

    Sierra reported its highest total sales month of 2009, up 6 percent vs. October 2008.

    Yukon/Yukon XL combined total sales were the highest since September 2008 (5,425), up 72 percent vs. October 2008.

    Acadia total sales were up 7 percent year-over-year, while retail sales increased 30 percent compared to October 2008.
    “We like the momentum we’ve seen in the sales of new Buick and GMC models,” said Susan Docherty, Buick-GMC general manager, and GM Vice President of U.S. Sales. “In October, Buick and GMC both had their best sales months of 2009, and in fact, total sales for these two brands were up 20 percent over October 2008 for the combined total of Buick, Pontiac and GMC.”
    Cadillac Total Sales Up 22 Percent
    Led by the performance of the all-new SRX, Cadillac sales increased by 22 percent compared to a year ago, and were up 2 percent vs. September.

    MORE

    Cadillac key facts:

    SRX: total sales were 280 percent higher than October 2008 and were up 21 percent compared to September—the second best performance of the vehicle in history.

    SRX: days supply is 34 days, based on month-end inventory.

    Escalade: Year-over-year total sales were 37 percent higher and market share continues to outperform competitors, including the Mercedes GL and Lexus LX 570.
    “The interest customers are showing in the new SRX is exciting – we are seeing Lexus, BMW and Mercedes customers trading their vehicles for the SRX,” said Bryan Nesbitt, Cadillac General Manager.
    Other brands Sold 15,089 Vehicles in October
    Total combined sales for Saturn, Pontiac, Saab and HUMMER were 15,089 for the month. As a percent of total GM sales, these brands represented 9 percent of sales, compared with 15 percent in October 2008.


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    Quote Originally Posted by James48843 View Post
    a bunch of nonsense
    http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...cars-to-avoid/

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    Left-wing wackos? Sounds progressive.

    Historically, California's economy has been controlled by huge corporations such as the Southern Pacific Railroad, Standard Oil of California and the Pacific Gas and Electric Company.
    California is responsible for 13% of the United States' gross domestic product (GDP). The state's GDP is at about $1.7 trillion

    As far as moving to Texas, that may be necessary if KBR and all those really costly gummint contractors lose access to all the money they've been sucking out of the taxpayers for the past 7 years. I mean, spending over 700 BILLION in Iraq is just about enough.


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    James, You should have mentioned that plant was a 50-50 GM-Toyota plant.

    It's BHO that's leaving California.

    If he does, Toyota will probably just move to Texas.
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/business.../52588302.html
    Why the hell would a business be in California with the left-wing wackos? For that matter, why would a manufacturer be in Obamastan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil View Post

    Historically, California's economy has been controlled by huge corporations such as the Southern Pacific Railroad, Standard Oil of California and the Pacific Gas and Electric Company.
    California is responsible for 13% of the United States' gross domestic product (GDP). The state's GDP is at about $1.7 trillion

    Phil talking some more trash.
    State Finance Directors Warn of More Trouble Ahead
    Wall Street Journal - ‎Nov 13, 2009‎
    As of July 2009, California's budget shortfall was 49.3% of its general funds.
    Budget insiders see worse ahead in Calif., Mich. Stateline.org

    California and Michigan Face Budget Challenges TransWorldNews (press release)

    Worst-case for California's budget deficit next year? $25 billion
    San Jose Mercury News ‎Nov 13, 2009‎
    Insiders say the 2011 budget deficit could reach $25 billion. SACRAMENTO — With high unemployment continuing to eat at California's tax revenues, ...

    Brown bemoans Calif. budget process Legal News Line

    California Budget Crisis Diaries: October sees more revenue SDNN: San Diego News Network

    Budget outlook grim thru 2012 Capitol Weekly

    Editorial: California lawmakers must face reality to balance state budget
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    And some colleges in Oregon are using California's budget crisis as a marketing opportunity: Oregon State University in Corvallis has a Web page devoted to ...

    Budget cuts will cripple California colleges and universities Examiner.com

    SDSU Associated Students to March in Protest of Budget Cuts San Diego Gay & Lesbian News

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    Yep. This after 8 years of Bush and 14 years of Republican control of the economy. We didn't seem to have this problem when President Clinton was around. Then again, we also didn't rack up an enormous amount of debt. In fact, our nation was paying off our debt.

    It just goes to show you what happens when we let in a new group with an agenda.

    On the other hand, now California can finally get rid of the people that were responsible for these problems. Thanks for the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil View Post
    On the other hand, now California can finally get rid of the people that were responsible for these problems.
    Could you explain what you meant by the statement?

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